I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder

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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:18:27 -0400, "Dick Snyder"
wrote:

I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder
================================================== =
Yes and it will work ...

My saw is a Jet Cabinet Saw and I use an Excalibur overhead guard and
have a Griz 2 Hp DC ....

The guard had a DC port for the blade ON THE BACK of the guard not the
front... I never could figure out why...it was on the back ..but
Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Anyhow I continue to use the Griz to collect dust inside the saw BUT
disconnected the Griz DC from the blade port..at the back of the guard
..
AND

I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffiths

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:18:27 -0400, "Dick Snyder"
wrote:

I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder
================================================== =
Yes and it will work ...

My saw is a Jet Cabinet Saw and I use an Excalibur overhead guard and
have a Griz 2 Hp DC ....

The guard had a DC port for the blade ON THE BACK of the guard not the
front... I never could figure out why...it was on the back ..but
Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Anyhow I continue to use the Griz to collect dust inside the saw BUT
disconnected the Griz DC from the blade port..at the back of the guard
..
AND

I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffiths

I did make a connection for the top of the blade guard and it does works
well. Probably picks up 70%. Sometimes the hose gets in the way but livable.

Tim


"Dick Snyder" wrote in message
...
I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the
bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it
been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder

(If you want to email me rather than posting your reply, please remove the
string "REMOVE-" in front of my email address)

I did make a connection for the top of the blade guard and it does works
well. Probably picks up 70%. Sometimes the hose gets in the way but livable.

Tim


"Dick Snyder" wrote in message
...
I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the
bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it
been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder

(If you want to email me rather than posting your reply, please remove the
string "REMOVE-" in front of my email address)

"Bob G." wrote in message
...

Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Your opinion is pretty accurate based on my own experiments. I did a lot of
prototyping of shopmade blade guards and experimented with all kinds of
connection geometry. I used a direct 4" connection through a 10 foot hose
directly to a Jet 2 hp collector, so I had gobs of suction available. I
found the connection at the rear of the guard was utterly futile and quickly
abandoned the idea.

My current solution completely divorces the dust collection from the guard.
I have a home made nozzle placed in front of the blade that rides on top of
the wood when ripping and hooks to the rear of my sliding table fence with
magnets when I cross cut. This is hugely effective. Most people would
regard it as a pain. I hate that spray of dust from the saw with a passion
and its worth it to me. I have a Jet air filter in my shop. I used to use
it regularly. Since I got this dust collection going on the table saw, I
never turn on the air filter. Its not needed.

Bob

"Bob G." wrote in message
...

Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Your opinion is pretty accurate based on my own experiments. I did a lot of
prototyping of shopmade blade guards and experimented with all kinds of
connection geometry. I used a direct 4" connection through a 10 foot hose
directly to a Jet 2 hp collector, so I had gobs of suction available. I
found the connection at the rear of the guard was utterly futile and quickly
abandoned the idea.

My current solution completely divorces the dust collection from the guard.
I have a home made nozzle placed in front of the blade that rides on top of
the wood when ripping and hooks to the rear of my sliding table fence with
magnets when I cross cut. This is hugely effective. Most people would
regard it as a pain. I hate that spray of dust from the saw with a passion
and its worth it to me. I have a Jet air filter in my shop. I used to use
it regularly. Since I got this dust collection going on the table saw, I
never turn on the air filter. Its not needed.

Bob

"Bob G." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:18:27 -0400, "Dick Snyder"
wrote:

I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it
up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the
bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion
of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it
been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder
================================================== =
Yes and it will work ...

My saw is a Jet Cabinet Saw and I use an Excalibur overhead guard and
have a Griz 2 Hp DC ....

The guard had a DC port for the blade ON THE BACK of the guard not the
front... I never could figure out why...it was on the back ..but
Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Anyhow I continue to use the Griz to collect dust inside the saw BUT
disconnected the Griz DC from the blade port..at the back of the guard
.
AND

I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffiths

Thanks Bob. Is there a reason you use your shop vac for the blade guard dust
collection versus adding a T on the main 4" line with a step down coverter
to 2 1/2" and then a 2 1/2" hose to the blade guard?

Dick Snyder

"Bob G." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:18:27 -0400, "Dick Snyder"
wrote:

I have recently purchased a Jet 650CK dust collector and have hooked it
up
to my table saw. I have attached the dust collector to the 2 1/2" dust
collection
port and with a splitter I have another dust collection point at the
bottom
of the saw where I have sealed in the stand with a board and Delta dust
collection hood. I am getting much less saw dust but the forward motion
of
the saw blade still kicks dust outward towards the operator.

In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick Peters, he talks
about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing this? Has it
been
effective?

Thank you for your help.

Dick Snyder
================================================== =
Yes and it will work ...

My saw is a Jet Cabinet Saw and I use an Excalibur overhead guard and
have a Griz 2 Hp DC ....

The guard had a DC port for the blade ON THE BACK of the guard not the
front... I never could figure out why...it was on the back ..but
Excalibur stated that the dust is picked up more effeciantly off the
blade at the rear not the front.... to which I say...BULLS*** !

Anyhow I continue to use the Griz to collect dust inside the saw BUT
disconnected the Griz DC from the blade port..at the back of the guard
.
AND

I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffiths

Thanks Bob. Is there a reason you use your shop vac for the blade guard dust
collection versus adding a T on the main 4" line with a step down coverter
to 2 1/2" and then a 2 1/2" hose to the blade guard?

Dick Snyder

Bob G. wrote:

[snip]
I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffith

I have the Biesemeyer overhead dust collector and it has the port in
front of the blade. Works fine. It does seem to be counterintuitive to
put it at the back.
mahalo,
jo4hn

Bob G. wrote:

[snip]
I sealed the rear port... drilled a ~ 1 1/2 hole in the side of the
lexan portion of the blade guard near the front of the blade..and
then sealed the entire front of the guard .. hooked up my old shop vac
(small hosed one NOT the normal 2 in hose ) to the new port

It works 100 percent better now.... the downside is that I have to use
both the DC and the shop Vac... when using the saw...BUT the on-off
switchs are handy and it is no problem..

This setup has been in use for maybe 5-6 years now...and I am
satisfied with it...

Bob Griffith

I have the Biesemeyer overhead dust collector and it has the port in
front of the blade. Works fine. It does seem to be counterintuitive to
put it at the back.
mahalo,
jo4hn

I have the Biesemeyer overhead dust collector and it has the port in
front of the blade. Works fine. It does seem to be counterintuitive to
put it at the back.

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better. even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.

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I have the Biesemeyer overhead dust collector and it has the port in
front of the blade. Works fine. It does seem to be counterintuitive to
put it at the back.

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better. even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

"Steve Knight" wrote in message
...

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better.
even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.

What diameter was the dust hose before you modified it? Did you have to make
any changes in regards to air flow to increase the dust collection?

"Steve Knight" wrote in message
...

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better.
even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.

What diameter was the dust hose before you modified it? Did you have to make
any changes in regards to air flow to increase the dust collection?

Upscale wrote:
"Steve Knight" wrote in message
...

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better.
even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.


What diameter was the dust hose before you modified it? Did you have to make
any changes in regards to air flow to increase the dust collection?


The ID of the port is 1 3/4".
j4

Upscale wrote:
"Steve Knight" wrote in message
...

I have the same. but I modified mine to use a 4" hose it works far better.
even
when I do cuts that are only on one side of the wood I catch pretty much
everything.


What diameter was the dust hose before you modified it? Did you have to make
any changes in regards to air flow to increase the dust collection?


The ID of the port is 1 3/4".
j4

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:07:27 GMT, "Bob" wrote:

My current solution completely divorces the dust collection from the guard.
I have a home made nozzle placed in front of the blade that rides on top of
the wood when ripping and hooks to the rear of my sliding table fence with
magnets when I cross cut. This is hugely effective. Most people would
regard it as a pain. I hate that spray of dust from the saw with a passion
and its worth it to me. I have a Jet air filter in my shop. I used to use
it regularly. Since I got this dust collection going on the table saw, I
never turn on the air filter. Its not needed.

Bob


Bob -- Could you please post some photos of your setup at
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Your solution seems to be exactly what
I have been looking for but I cannot fully picture it. Thanks. -- Igor.

Like this ???

http://www.biesemeyer.com/products/index.htm

Yes... it works but I don't have the 4" line connected
to my saw "yet".... That's next. A LARGE Craftsman vac
handles the overhead dust "fairly well" but NOT 100%,
which is probably impossible.


Dick Snyder wrote:


In the book "Controlling Dust in the Workshop" by Rick
Peters, he talks about cutting a hole in your blade
guard and attaching a 2" hose. Have any of you tried doing
this? Has it been effective?

"igor" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 15:07:27 GMT, "Bob" wrote:

Bob -- Could you please post some photos of your setup at
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking? Your solution seems to be exactly what
I have been looking for but I cannot fully picture it. Thanks. -- Igor.

Sure. I promised Dick Snyder I would do that later this week. My
disclaimer is that it works for me and my priorities. 40 year experienced
woodworkers who run without a guard and dislike anything getting in the way
of seeing what they are doing will hate it. I also have a spotlight built
into my blade guard. :-) I'll include that in the picture for grins.

Bob