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Brazilian Rosewood
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I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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Bolivian rosewood
"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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Bolivian rosewood
"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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"Gordon Menzies" writes:
Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Teak? Padouk is also supposed to be very stable (but looks nothing like rosewood). There are a bunch of other rosewoods (genus Dalbergia), such as Honduran rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. Indian Rosewood is alleged to be more stable than Brazilian. If you want something really dense you could try African Blackwood which is heavier than water (it's a Dalbergia too). I think these last two may be available only as turning blanks so your project would have to be small. |
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"Gordon Menzies" writes:
Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Teak? Padouk is also supposed to be very stable (but looks nothing like rosewood). There are a bunch of other rosewoods (genus Dalbergia), such as Honduran rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. Indian Rosewood is alleged to be more stable than Brazilian. If you want something really dense you could try African Blackwood which is heavier than water (it's a Dalbergia too). I think these last two may be available only as turning blanks so your project would have to be small. |
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-- "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord Not Brazilian, but others rosewoods are he http://www.westpennhardwoods.com/exotic/index.php |
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-- "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord Not Brazilian, but others rosewoods are he http://www.westpennhardwoods.com/exotic/index.php |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:03:59 GMT, "Gordon Menzies"
wrote: Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. well it is at about 100.00 a bf (G) cocobolo or Indian rosewood would be fine. ipe would work too. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:03:59 GMT, "Gordon Menzies"
wrote: Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. well it is at about 100.00 a bf (G) cocobolo or Indian rosewood would be fine. ipe would work too. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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Where do you live? Not too far from here I can buy all the "rosewood" (no
specifics given by supplier) I can carry for $10/BF. Bob "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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Where do you live? Not too far from here I can buy all the "rosewood" (no
specifics given by supplier) I can carry for $10/BF. Bob "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms. http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/ http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm Looks good finished, too. "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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(Never Enough Money) wrote in
om: Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well. Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms. http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...s/buildingmate rials/ourproducts/lyptus/ http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm Looks good finished, too. But lyptus isn't anything like rosewood. A design change is in order, somehow. |
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If you need a rosewood, try cocobolo or Honduran rosewood. If you want to
substitute for a cheaper wood, try jatoba (brazilian cherry) or even use a good dark piece of walnut or cherry. Gary in KC "Never Enough Money" wrote in message om... Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well. Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms. http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/ http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm Looks good finished, too. "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .. the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .. the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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If you need a rosewood, try cocobolo or Honduran rosewood. If you want to
substitute for a cheaper wood, try jatoba (brazilian cherry) or even use a good dark piece of walnut or cherry. Gary in KC "Never Enough Money" wrote in message om... Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well. Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms. http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/ http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm Looks good finished, too. "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .. the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .. the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms. http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/ http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm Looks good finished, too. "Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no... Hello I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood . the problem is none is available. so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood . the project involves wooden gears. so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated Gord |
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I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it. Jim |
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In article . net, Jim
Wilson wrote: I have nothing against rosewood but I have had good luck using purpleheart in situations where durability was required. I made a couple gate latches of purpleheart about 15 years ago and they are still going strong. Both the latch and the strike plate are purpleheart. Dick I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it. Jim |
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In article . net, Jim
Wilson wrote: I have nothing against rosewood but I have had good luck using purpleheart in situations where durability was required. I made a couple gate latches of purpleheart about 15 years ago and they are still going strong. Both the latch and the strike plate are purpleheart. Dick I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it. Jim |
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I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) Thanks, Alex |
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Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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Steve Knight wrote...
once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. Steve, I'm glad you posted this. I had written "split" when I meant "check." Properly dried, cocobolo has pretty good split resistance. Please excuse the poor choice of words on my part. Cheers! Jim |
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Steve Knight wrote...
once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. Steve, I'm glad you posted this. I had written "split" when I meant "check." Properly dried, cocobolo has pretty good split resistance. Please excuse the poor choice of words on my part. Cheers! Jim |
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once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood? Alex |
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AArDvarK schreef
Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood? Alex Wood Handbook: "CHECK. A lengthwise separation of the wood ... commonly results from stresses set up in wood during seasoning." Basically a check is small relative to the piece of wood. PvR |
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AArDvarK schreef
Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood? Alex Wood Handbook: "CHECK. A lengthwise separation of the wood ... commonly results from stresses set up in wood during seasoning." Basically a check is small relative to the piece of wood. PvR |
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once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood? Alex |
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Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check. -- Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. |
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AArDvarK wrote...
Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Jim |
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Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Thanks Jim, I am curious because it is the other choice, other than cocobolo, for chisel handles from Harris tools, and those are sockets. Costa Rica. Alex |
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Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Thanks Jim, I am curious because it is the other choice, other than cocobolo, for chisel handles from Harris tools, and those are sockets. Costa Rica. Alex |
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Jim Wilson schreef
Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. ****** Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is called "ipê" in Brazil ****** Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. ****** Yes, but only one species {not "main"]. These days it is called Chlorocardium rodiei [Chloros = green, cardia = heart; after Rodie, MD] There is a second species in Chlorocardium, but it won't be traded ****** I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Jim |
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****** Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is called "ipê" in Brazil ****** So it's an ironwood. Wouldn't it be better than cocbolo, for strengths against check(ing)? Better for chisel handles? Alex |
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****** Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is called "ipê" in Brazil ****** So it's an ironwood. Wouldn't it be better than cocbolo, for strengths against check(ing)? Better for chisel handles? Alex |
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Jim Wilson schreef
Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. ****** Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is called "ipê" in Brazil ****** Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. ****** Yes, but only one species {not "main"]. These days it is called Chlorocardium rodiei [Chloros = green, cardia = heart; after Rodie, MD] There is a second species in Chlorocardium, but it won't be traded ****** I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Jim |
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AArDvarK wrote...
Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart. Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture, among other things. Jim |
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I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less) Thanks, Alex |
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Jim Wilson schreef
I really like Dalbergia stevensonii (Honduras Rosewood) and Dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). ... All the "Honduras" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. ******** Only place it ever has been found. PvR |
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Jim Wilson schreef
I really like Dalbergia stevensonii (Honduras Rosewood) and Dalbergia retusa (cocobolo). ... All the "Honduras" Rosewood I've bought actually came from Belize. ******** Only place it ever has been found. PvR |
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