Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Bolivian rosewood

"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
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Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Bolivian rosewood

"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

"Gordon Menzies" writes:

Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Teak? Padouk is also supposed to be very stable (but looks nothing
like rosewood). There are a bunch of other rosewoods (genus
Dalbergia), such as Honduran rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. Indian
Rosewood is alleged to be more stable than Brazilian. If you want
something really dense you could try African Blackwood which is
heavier than water (it's a Dalbergia too). I think these last two may
be available only as turning blanks so your project would have to be
small.

"Gordon Menzies" writes:

Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Teak? Padouk is also supposed to be very stable (but looks nothing
like rosewood). There are a bunch of other rosewoods (genus
Dalbergia), such as Honduran rosewood and Bolivian rosewood. Indian
Rosewood is alleged to be more stable than Brazilian. If you want
something really dense you could try African Blackwood which is
heavier than water (it's a Dalbergia too). I think these last two may
be available only as turning blanks so your project would have to be
small.

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"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Not Brazilian, but others rosewoods are he
http://www.westpennhardwoods.com/exotic/index.php

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"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Not Brazilian, but others rosewoods are he
http://www.westpennhardwoods.com/exotic/index.php

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:03:59 GMT, "Gordon Menzies"
wrote:

Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.

well it is at about 100.00 a bf (G)
cocobolo or Indian rosewood would be fine. ipe would work too.

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:03:59 GMT, "Gordon Menzies"
wrote:

Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.

well it is at about 100.00 a bf (G)
cocobolo or Indian rosewood would be fine. ipe would work too.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

Where do you live? Not too far from here I can buy all the "rosewood" (no
specifics given by supplier) I can carry for $10/BF.

Bob


"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
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Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Where do you live? Not too far from here I can buy all the "rosewood" (no
specifics given by supplier) I can carry for $10/BF.

Bob


"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.

http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.




"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.

http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.




"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood .
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

(Never Enough Money) wrote in
om:

Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.

http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...s/buildingmate
rials/ourproducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.


But lyptus isn't anything like rosewood. A design change is in order,
somehow.

(Never Enough Money) wrote in
om:

Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.

http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...s/buildingmate
rials/ourproducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.


But lyptus isn't anything like rosewood. A design change is in order,
somehow.

If you need a rosewood, try cocobolo or Honduran rosewood. If you want to
substitute for a cheaper wood, try jatoba (brazilian cherry) or even use a
good dark piece of walnut or cherry.

Gary in KC



"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
om...
Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.


http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.




"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood
..
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood
..
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

If you need a rosewood, try cocobolo or Honduran rosewood. If you want to
substitute for a cheaper wood, try jatoba (brazilian cherry) or even use a
good dark piece of walnut or cherry.

Gary in KC



"Never Enough Money" wrote in message
om...
Lyptus. Cheaper than walnut or cherry. Very heavy. Machines well.
Environmentaly kinder since it's grown on farms.


http://www.weyerhaeuser.com/ourbusin...oducts/lyptus/

http://www.specialtyforest.com/produ...ber/lyptus.htm

Looks good finished, too.




"Gordon Menzies" wrote in message
news:PsO2d.456629$gE.322467@pd7tw3no...
Hello

I am starting a new project soon. the plans call for Brazilian Rosewood
..
the problem is none is available.
so I would like some possible recommendation for a similar type of wood
..
the project involves wooden gears.
so stability is important. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated

Gord

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really
matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it.

Jim

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really
matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it.

Jim

In article . net, Jim
Wilson wrote:

I have nothing against rosewood but I have had good luck using
purpleheart in situations where durability was required. I made a
couple gate latches of purpleheart about 15 years ago and they are still
going strong. Both the latch and the strike plate are purpleheart.

Dick

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really
matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it.

Jim

In article . net, Jim
Wilson wrote:

I have nothing against rosewood but I have had good luck using
purpleheart in situations where durability was required. I made a
couple gate latches of purpleheart about 15 years ago and they are still
going strong. Both the latch and the strike plate are purpleheart.

Dick

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

I don't think Bolivian Rosewood is a dalbergia -- not that that really
matters -- but it could be another option for you. I've never used it.

Jim

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.


Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

Thanks,
Alex

I really like dalbergia stevensonii (Honduran Rosewood) and dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). The cocobolo has a greater tendency to split and can
be hard to find dry. It also has a much greater variety of color and
generally a wilder appearance. They are both fantastic to work; choose
based on appearance. All the "Honduran" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.


Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

Thanks,
Alex

Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard
to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.

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Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard
to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

AArDvarK wrote...
Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.
Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.

Jim

AArDvarK wrote...
Jim do you know about greenheart and how it compares with cocobolo
for splitting? (I don't know, I want to know which one splits less)

Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.
Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.

Jim

Steve Knight wrote...

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part
is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.

Steve, I'm glad you posted this. I had written "split" when I meant
"check."

Properly dried, cocobolo has pretty good split resistance. Please excuse
the poor choice of words on my part.

Cheers!

Jim

Steve Knight wrote...

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part
is hard to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.

Steve, I'm glad you posted this. I had written "split" when I meant
"check."

Properly dried, cocobolo has pretty good split resistance. Please excuse
the poor choice of words on my part.

Cheers!

Jim

Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.
Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.



Thanks Jim, I am curious because it is the other choice, other than cocobolo,
for chisel handles from Harris tools, and those are sockets. Costa Rica.

Alex

Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.
Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei. I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.



Thanks Jim, I am curious because it is the other choice, other than cocobolo,
for chisel handles from Harris tools, and those are sockets. Costa Rica.

Alex

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard
to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.


Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood?
Alex

once cocobolo is fully dry it is pretty stable. but the pretty dry part is hard
to tell. only 3 or 4% too much moisture can cause it to check.


Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood?
Alex

Jim Wilson schreef
Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.

******
Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is
called "ipê" in Brazil
******

Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei.

******
Yes, but only one species {not "main"].
These days it is called Chlorocardium rodiei
[Chloros = green, cardia = heart; after Rodie, MD]
There is a second species in Chlorocardium, but it won't be traded

******
I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.

Jim

Jim Wilson schreef
Greenheart is another name that is used for more than one species. Check
to be sure what you're getting. I have even heard ipe called greenheart.

******
Yes, that is pretty normal. In Costa Rica "greenheart" will be what is
called "ipê" in Brazil
******

Anyway, the main species I think is ocotea rodiaei.

******
Yes, but only one species {not "main"].
These days it is called Chlorocardium rodiei
[Chloros = green, cardia = heart; after Rodie, MD]
There is a second species in Chlorocardium, but it won't be traded

******
I have never worked
with it, so I can't compare it to cocobolo, but the specs on the FPL
website are impressive. Looks like it would make great outdoor furniture,
among other things.

Jim

AArDvarK schreef
Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood?
Alex

Wood Handbook:
"CHECK. A lengthwise separation of the wood ... commonly results from
stresses set up in wood during seasoning."

Basically a check is small relative to the piece of wood.
PvR

AArDvarK schreef
Steve what is the exact meaning of the word 'check' for wood?
Alex

Wood Handbook:
"CHECK. A lengthwise separation of the wood ... commonly results from
stresses set up in wood during seasoning."

Basically a check is small relative to the piece of wood.
PvR

Jim Wilson schreef
I really like Dalbergia stevensonii (Honduras Rosewood) and Dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). ... All the "Honduras" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

********
Only place it ever has been found.
PvR

Jim Wilson schreef
I really like Dalbergia stevensonii (Honduras Rosewood) and Dalbergia
retusa (cocobolo). ... All the "Honduras" Rosewood I've bought actually
came from Belize.

********
Only place it ever has been found.
PvR

Gordon Menzies schreef
I am starting a new project soon. The plans call for Brazilian Rosewood .
the problem is none is available. So I would like some possible
recommendation for a similar type of wood .
The project involves wooden gears. So stability is important. Any suggestion
will be greatly appreciated.

********
Lot of options
Also look at Platymiscium species.
PvR