Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.


I framed mine with hardwood pallet lumber - 8 foot sheet metal pallets

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:04:32 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.


I framed mine with hardwood pallet lumber - 8 foot sheet metal pallets


.... seldom see those 8 footers at-the-curb ...
Regular pallets are often set out for free.
- a troup of pallet scavengers will usually
beat-you-to-the-punch ..
John T.

Clare Snyder on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:04:32 -0400
typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.


I framed mine with hardwood pallet lumber - 8 foot sheet metal pallets

I still have a couple of those from work.

The problem is that I no longer work there, and the dumpster is
now behind a gate and a fence.

Dumpster diving ain' what it used to be.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:44:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Clare Snyder on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:04:32 -0400
typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57 -0400, knuttle
wrote:

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.


I framed mine with hardwood pallet lumber - 8 foot sheet metal pallets

I still have a couple of those from work.

The problem is that I no longer work there, and the dumpster is
now behind a gate and a fence.

Dumpster diving ain' what it used to be.
Nothing wrong with asking, is there?? That's how I got mine!

knuttle on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }


Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.

I've looked at those. Also, what I have in mind is not so much
"shed" as "add-on extension" or "lean to" about four by eight foot. I
want to "enclose a porch" for the shed which serves as my Study. But
first, I need to make that 'porch'. I have much of the materials, but
I'm sure I will need some more.

what can I say, I'm cheap, and already planning on reusing part of
a Costco carport as a garden 'shed' and possibly a 'gazebo'.

You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.

Had not considered Craigslist, but that raises the problem of not
having a trailer. If it isn't one thing, it is another. "And any
plan where you lose your hat ..?" "... is a bad plan."

Depending on the size it could be doable.

Yep. OTOH, I keep in mind that something is "doable" depending on
what you have and etc. I once converted the former neighbor's front
porch into my rear deck. "Doable" because I had a truck, two
come-a-longs and fifty feet of aircraft cable. Not to mention some
4x4s, a number of cement footings / blocks and no city inspectors to
worry about.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 5:31:01 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.

What's your definition of "cheap"? Are these cheap? Don't forget that most
of these shed kits do not include flooring or shingles, so the price shown isn't
the final cost. In addition, if they haven't changed things, they don't include
enough framing material to build a proper structure. For example, they don't
include sill plates.

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Storage-...s/N-5yc1vZbu93

I got lucky. About 10 years ago I went to HD planning to pick up enough
plywood and 2x4's to build a small lean-to, something just big enough to
get a few rarely used items out of the single car garage.

As soon as I walked in I saw a hand-written cardboard sign with the words
"Manager's Special: Open Box Shed Kit - $250" scrawled on it.

I located a manager and she showed me an 8 x 8 shed kit like this, with all
the pieces strapped to a pallet.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Value-Ga...C-FK/312478743

I bought it on the spot. I also found a pallet loaded with open packages of shingles
being sold at a deep discount. Paid for enough to roof the shed and loaded up the
trailer. Since the open-box kit was so cheap, I bought the extra framing material to
build it properly. Even with the flooring, roofing and extra framing material, I still
paid way less than half of the current shed kit-only price.

The shed still looks great after all these years.



You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.

Or a used shipping container. They are all the rage for storage, shops and
even stores these days.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ship...+uses&tbm=isch

DerbyDad03 on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 18:02:12 -0700
(PDT) typed in rec.woodworking the following:


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.

Or a used shipping container. They are all the rage for storage, shops and
even stores these days.

Unfortunately, having a shipping container in town is allowed only
for six months or the "length of the project".
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 3/26/2021 4:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

Â*Â*Â*Â*I'm looking to throw up a shack.Â* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.Â* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?Â* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.Â* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)Â* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot.Â*Â* It will
probably last as long as you want it andÂ* may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like.Â* I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.




Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Your best bet might be to dumpster dive the local construction sites. Ask the foreman, on the job, for permission first, as all sites don't allow dumpster diving.

Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:37:23 -0500 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 4:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

****I'm looking to throw up a shack.* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

****Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

****Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot.** It will
probably last as long as you want it and* may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like.* I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.




Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Tain't the cost so much as I don't need pristine, organically
grown, faire trade, each tree individually selected and harvested by
druids in a sustainable manner, hand selected by virgins "perfect"
lumber. I just want "board, 2"x4"x96", one each" etc. Something
grade three or below.
I tend to go check Home Depots "mark down cart" - 70% off. Yes,
that's a major defect. OTOH, there is 7 feet of board without the
defect, and I can cut the two pieces I want out of it. "It will do."

--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 3/27/2021 12:44 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:37:23 -0500 typed
in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 4:30 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

Â*Â*Â*Â*I'm looking to throw up a shack.Â* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises
"premium quality"
lumber.Â* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?Â* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill
somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.Â* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)Â* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better
to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot.Â*Â*
It will
probably last as long as you want it andÂ* may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like.Â* I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.




Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Tain't the cost so much as I don't need pristine, organically
grown, faire trade, each tree individually selected and harvested by
druids in a sustainable manner, hand selected by virgins "perfect"
lumber. I just want "board, 2"x4"x96", one each" etc. Something
grade three or below.
I tend to go check Home Depots "mark down cart" - 70% off. Yes,
that's a major defect. OTOH, there is 7 feet of board without the
defect, and I can cut the two pieces I want out of it. "It will do."

Do you have a Restore (Habitat for Humanity) near you. Some have a lot
of lumber, at usually a good price.

knuttle on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:45:40
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Considering what construction lumber is going for these days, it is all
less than premium.
Today's 2x4 that goes for $8 is the same quality as last years $3 2x4.

Tain't the cost so much as I don't need pristine, organically
grown, faire trade, each tree individually selected and harvested by
druids in a sustainable manner, hand selected by virgins "perfect"
lumber. I just want "board, 2"x4"x96", one each" etc. Something
grade three or below.
I tend to go check Home Depots "mark down cart" - 70% off. Yes,
that's a major defect. OTOH, there is 7 feet of board without the
defect, and I can cut the two pieces I want out of it. "It will do."

Do you have a Restore (Habitat for Humanity) near you. Some have a lot
of lumber, at usually a good price.

I do, and I have, and I've gone broke saving money.

OTOH, they don't always have the size I'm after. Which brings me
back to my first query: what happens to the less than Premium Grade
hand selected gluten free vegan lumber? Shirley, it can't all be
getting sent to the PRC?
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

knuttle on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.

I obviously used the wrong words and terms. While I did ask about
"a shack" what I actually have in mind is an add-on to an existing
structure (a store bought kit complete with the "We will build it for
you" option. I then finished it off, insulation & paneling, and
running power to it.)
If I was going to be here more than five years I would go for the
"quality" material. But I only need it for two, maybe three, and most
likely the house/property will get bulldozed after we are gone.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.

Do lumberyards advertise on Craigslist? I haven't checked. I
know Amazon will sell lumber.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 3/27/2021 12:51 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
knuttle on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:30:57
-0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Depending on what size of shed you are talking about it may be better to
buy a cheap shed from somewhere like Lowes or Home Depot. It will
probably last as long as you want it and may cost less considering cost
of materials, labor, and the time required to find it.

I obviously used the wrong words and terms. While I did ask about
"a shack" what I actually have in mind is an add-on to an existing
structure (a store bought kit complete with the "We will build it for
you" option. I then finished it off, insulation & paneling, and
running power to it.)
If I was going to be here more than five years I would go for the
"quality" material. But I only need it for two, maybe three, and most
likely the house/property will get bulldozed after we are gone.


You may also chece Craiglist, to the like. I have seen some sheds being
given away, so the only cost would be moving it to your locations.
Depending on the size it could be doable.

Do lumberyards advertise on Craigslist? I haven't checked. I
know Amazon will sell lumber.

While I have gotten some good deals on Craigslist, I don't frequent it
that often so don't know about lumber yards.

I do know I have seen piano, furniture, sheds, and piles of lumber being
given away.

On 3/26/2021 2:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Could you recycle wood pallets? A lot of places give them away.

On 3/26/2021 6:02 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 3/26/2021 2:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

Â*Â*Â*Â*I'm looking to throw up a shack.Â* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.Â* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?Â* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.Â* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)Â* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Could you recycle wood pallets?Â* A lot of places give them away.


Pallets in general are not a great source for wood. Unless brand new
there is no telling what they have been subject to. Dragged along
floors with, who knows what, toxic debris and containers spilling on
them. I have seen a lot of very nasty pallets.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:35:10 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/26/2021 6:02 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 3/26/2021 2:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

****I'm looking to throw up a shack.* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

****Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

****Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Could you recycle wood pallets?* A lot of places give them away.


Pallets in general are not a great source for wood. Unless brand new
there is no telling what they have been subject to. Dragged along
floors with, who knows what, toxic debris and containers spilling on
them. I have seen a lot of very nasty pallets.

OTOH, I've had some that are sparkling new. Stationary tools come on
them. It takes a lot of bandsaws to build a shed, though.

Just Wondering on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:02:48 -0600 typed in
rec.woodworking the following:
On 3/26/2021 2:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

Could you recycle wood pallets? A lot of places give them away.

Not since the manufacturers started putting their wood / pallets
behind locked gates.

Besides, scraps I got. Where do I go for "less than pristine,
fair-growth, gluten free 2x4" etc?
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

My father has a huge "burning man" style bonfire every year... he goes
to Home Depot or wherever, and asks the manager for a discount on
damaged lumber. I'm not sure what discount they work out, but he gets
anything warped, bowed, cracked, split, or major knots at a good
discount... half off, maybe? YMMV, but it can't hurt to ask the manager
at your local lumber yard or big box/home improvement store.

Michael Trew wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

Â*Â*Â*Â*I'm looking to throw up a shack.Â* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.Â* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?Â* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.Â* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)Â* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

My father has a huge "burning man" style bonfire every year... he goes
to Home Depot or wherever, and asks the manager for a discount on
damaged lumber.Â* I'm not sure what discount they work out, but he gets
anything warped, bowed, cracked, split, or major knots at a good
discount... half off, maybe?Â* YMMV, but it can't hurt to ask the manager
at your local lumber yard or big box/home improvement store.

My local Menards or Home Depot has a "scrap box" where they sell pieces
really cheap. I don't recall seeing anything longer than 3 feet there,
but I don't frequent it. Great for kids though!

On 3/27/2021 3:06 AM, Bill wrote:
Michael Trew wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

Â*Â*Â*Â*I'm looking to throw up a shack.Â* A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber.Â* Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"?Â* Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Â*Â*Â*Â*Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops.Â* The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-)Â* }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

My father has a huge "burning man" style bonfire every year... he goes

to Home Depot or wherever, and asks the manager for a discount on
damaged lumber.Â* I'm not sure what discount they work out, but he
gets
anything warped, bowed, cracked, split, or major knots at a good
discount... half off, maybe?Â* YMMV, but it can't hurt to ask the
manager at your local lumber yard or big box/home improvement store.

My local Menards or Home Depot has a "scrap box" where they sell pieces

really cheap. I don't recall seeing anything longer than 3 feet there,
but I don't frequent it. Great for kids though!
Our local Home Depot does not have that. While the will cut to your
measurements, they expect you take all of the pieces from what you bought.


However when we lived in Indianapolis Menards did, It was great for
that small project where you needed a couple of feet of 2X to complete.
I wish all stored had them.

Did I say I miss Menards? If not I wish they would expand into the
south east.

On 3/27/2021 3:06 AM, Bill wrote:
Michael Trew wrote:
On 3/26/2021 4:50 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:


Weird question.

I'm looking to throw up a shack. A temporary building, not
intended to last more than a couple years.

Yet every lumber yard I've found advertises "premium quality"
lumber. Where can one go for "Good enough" lumber for those projects
which just have to be "done"? Somewhere above the stuff used by
"B.A.R.F. Construction" ('cost a whole lot less, looks just a good.),
though.

Or am I stuck with having to contact a mill somewhere for the
grade 4 boards (every board guaranteed to have a knot, bark, cup, bow,
or for not more money a combination of two or more.)?

{Company I worked at used that stuff for shipping commercial
countertops. The counter tops were first rate, the 'crates' - not so
much B-) }

--
pyotr filipivich
"Have the Anarchists ever stopped to consider that if they bring
down the American Government, there will be no one to protect
them from the rednecks?"

My father has a huge "burning man" style bonfire every year... he goes
to Home Depot or wherever, and asks the manager for a discount on
damaged lumber. I'm not sure what discount they work out, but he gets
anything warped, bowed, cracked, split, or major knots at a good
discount... half off, maybe? YMMV, but it can't hurt to ask the
manager at your local lumber yard or big box/home improvement store.

My local Menards or Home Depot has a "scrap box" where they sell pieces
really cheap. I don't recall seeing anything longer than 3 feet there,
but I don't frequent it. Great for kids though!

Ours doesn't have that, but he was able to bargain full 8, 10, and 12"
damaged board down. I do miss going to Menards; it was a little over an
hour drive to the nearest one, but I spent thousands there when
remodeling my house, and with that 11% mail in rebate, I got enough back
to go buy a brand new water heater, at no cost to me!

Michael Trew on Sat, 27 Mar 2021 00:23:32 -0400
typed in rec.woodworking the following:

My father has a huge "burning man" style bonfire every year... he goes
to Home Depot or wherever, and asks the manager for a discount on
damaged lumber. I'm not sure what discount they work out, but he gets
anything warped, bowed, cracked, split, or major knots at a good
discount... half off, maybe? YMMV, but it can't hurt to ask the manager
at your local lumber yard or big box/home improvement store.

HD has their cart of damaged "seconds" - 70% off. Sometimes I
have found all the boards I need for less than one "good" one.
--
pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)