What grade sandpaper does 0000 steel wool equal? Is there any advantage
which would indicate whether to use steel wool or the equivalent
sandpaper between coats of finish? For instance, if 0000 has the same
abrasion as say 220, what factor(s) would determine which would be
better for a particular finish?

Gerry

http://www.geocities.com/opaaw/InfoPages/woolpads.html

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit. I would have
guessed it was a bit higher--stupid me!

Avoid using steel wool between coats of water based products
(water borne lacquers, polys, and YES, there is a WB shellac!)

David

G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:

What grade sandpaper does 0000 steel wool equal? Is there any advantage
which would indicate whether to use steel wool or the equivalent
sandpaper between coats of finish? For instance, if 0000 has the same
abrasion as say 220, what factor(s) would determine which would be
better for a particular finish?

Gerry

"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.


But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed

Definitely _not_ the same. Particle shape is very different. Never had to
have SWMBO take pieces of 400 grit out of my fingers with tweezers.

I suppose comparisons are a "scratch no worse than" proposition.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.


But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
news:FHoSc.4544$K82.266@trndny01...

But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed


IIRC most the finishes indicate using 0000 steel wool between coats with the
exception of gel varnishes. Many finishing waxes indicate applying with
steel wool.

absolutely not! I'm partial to the use of pads after the
last coat has cured. I wouldn't use fine grit sandpaper to
obtain the final sheen. I stop at either gray or white pads.


Sandpaper is appropriate for pre finishing and inter coat
sanding. I avoid steel wool due to my use of WB finishes.

David

David

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.



But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed

I have used wet or dry sandpaper with mineral spirits or water to wet sand my
final coat. The results are great!

Grant


David wrote:

absolutely not! I'm partial to the use of pads after the
last coat has cured. I wouldn't use fine grit sandpaper to
obtain the final sheen. I stop at either gray or white pads.

Sandpaper is appropriate for pre finishing and inter coat
sanding. I avoid steel wool due to my use of WB finishes.

David

David

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.



But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed

Grant, I wasn't saying that sandpaper shouldn't be used.
What I meant by "absolutely not" is that the results are
different that using pads. I didn't mean that one process
is "inferior" to the other.

David

Grant P. Beagles wrote:
I have used wet or dry sandpaper with mineral spirits or water to wet sand my
final coat. The results are great!

Grant


David wrote:


absolutely not! I'm partial to the use of pads after the
last coat has cured. I wouldn't use fine grit sandpaper to
obtain the final sheen. I stop at either gray or white pads.

Sandpaper is appropriate for pre finishing and inter coat
sanding. I avoid steel wool due to my use of WB finishes.

David

David

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"David" wrote in message


check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.



But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:56:05 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.


But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

I usually use steel wool, with a lubricant, to rub a gloss finish
down to a lower sheen, and to apply wax..

Many people don't know the proper way to use steel wool, with the
fibers held perpendicular to the stroke. G There actually is a
"grain" to the stuff.

Barry

good point, Barry.

David

B a r r y wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:56:05 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message

check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.


But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.


I usually use steel wool, with a lubricant, to rub a gloss finish
down to a lower sheen, and to apply wax..

Many people don't know the proper way to use steel wool, with the
fibers held perpendicular to the stroke. G There actually is a
"grain" to the stuff.

Barry

Agreed! Steel wool takes a sheen down nicely. When I was wet sanding, I was
looking for more gloss (but not the plastic look!).

Grant



David wrote:

Grant, I wasn't saying that sandpaper shouldn't be used.
What I meant by "absolutely not" is that the results are
different that using pads. I didn't mean that one process
is "inferior" to the other.

David

Grant P. Beagles wrote:
I have used wet or dry sandpaper with mineral spirits or water to wet sand my
final coat. The results are great!

Grant


David wrote:


absolutely not! I'm partial to the use of pads after the
last coat has cured. I wouldn't use fine grit sandpaper to
obtain the final sheen. I stop at either gray or white pads.

Sandpaper is appropriate for pre finishing and inter coat
sanding. I avoid steel wool due to my use of WB finishes.

David

David

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"David" wrote in message


check out the chart: it says 400-600 grit.



But does it give the same finish? I never thought of them being
interchangeable. When is one more appropriate than the other.

Aside from using SOS pads to clean whitewalls, I'm not knowledgeable about
using steel wool.
Ed