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Guy LaRochelle
 
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Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy


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Guy,

You didn't say how thick those jaws were but consider using some dowels to
add some strength to this pieces you add. You could also cut a M&T joint
along the top edges then glue the top pieces on. The M&T joint will give it
strength. May even want to turn that mistake into an enhancement by using a
contrasting hardwood.

Bob S.

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
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Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I

don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods

etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy




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Guy LaRochelle
 
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Bob,

The rear jaw is 1.5" thick and the front jaw is 3" thick. I don't know how
useful dowels would be since the piece I would laminate on top would only be
about 3/8" thick at most to bring the jaw flush with the bench top.
Regards. -Guy



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Guy,

You didn't say how thick those jaws were but consider using some dowels to
add some strength to this pieces you add. You could also cut a M&T joint
along the top edges then glue the top pieces on. The M&T joint will give

it
strength. May even want to turn that mistake into an enhancement by using

a
contrasting hardwood.

Bob S.

"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I

don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods

etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both

my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws

or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over

since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy






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"BobS" suggested:

... consider using some dowels to add some strength
to this pieces you add. You could also cut a M&T joint
along the top edges then glue the top pieces on. The M&T
joint will give it strength.


To which "Guy LaRochelle" replied...

The rear jaw is 1.5" thick and the front jaw is 3" thick. I don't know how
useful dowels would be since the piece I would laminate on top would only

be
about 3/8" thick at most to bring the jaw flush with the bench top.


No matter the thickness ( 1/4", 3/8", whatever ), I agree that the dowels
(or M&T) will add to the shear strength of the jaw caps. If you should have
the need to clamp just the bottom 1/4" of a workpiece at the top of your
vise, this strength may be appreciated.

/rick.


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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:43:00 -0400, RickS wrote:

No matter the thickness ( 1/4", 3/8", whatever ), I agree that the
dowels (or M&T) will add to the shear strength of the jaw caps. If you
should have the need to clamp just the bottom 1/4" of a workpiece at the
top of your vise, this strength may be appreciated.


With that much thickness, the OP has the opportunity to make an awesome
dog. Just use hefty dowels. Lift the outer jaw on its pegs, and voila,
full-width dog. Nice.

Although the sliding dovetail suggestion sounds elegant...

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"Keep your ass behind you"



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How about a sliding dovetail?

Kevin
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"Guy LaRochelle" wrote in message
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Bob,

The rear jaw is 1.5" thick and the front jaw is 3" thick. I don't know how
useful dowels would be since the piece I would laminate on top would only

be
about 3/8" thick at most to bring the jaw flush with the bench top.
Regards. -Guy



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John Carlson
 
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You'd be gluing long grain to long grain, it should be plenty strong.
I don't think you'll have a problem.

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:09:40 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
wrote:

Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy


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Robert Galloway
 
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We're talking vise jaws here? Ain't necessary that this be art work.
Nice if it can be. I'd start over from scratch and try to get the best
vise jaws. To hell with what they look like. OMO

bob g.

Guy LaRochelle wrote:

Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy



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Guy LaRochelle
 
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Bob,

Yes, I realize what you are saying that pretty vise jaws are not necessary.
But the question here is do you think that laminating a 3/8" thick piece on
the top edge of each jaw decrease their capabilites or weaken them?
Regards. -Guy



"Robert Galloway" wrote in message
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We're talking vise jaws here? Ain't necessary that this be art work.
Nice if it can be. I'd start over from scratch and try to get the best
vise jaws. To hell with what they look like. OMO

bob g.

Guy LaRochelle wrote:

Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I

don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods

etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both

my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws

or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over

since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy





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Robert Galloway
 
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Default Vise jaw problem?

You're right, my short response didn't address your question but I
think the multi part jaws probably won't be as strong as one piece.

bob g.

Guy LaRochelle wrote:
Bob,

Yes, I realize what you are saying that pretty vise jaws are not necessary.
But the question here is do you think that laminating a 3/8" thick piece on
the top edge of each jaw decrease their capabilites or weaken them?
Regards. -Guy



"Robert Galloway" wrote in message
...

We're talking vise jaws here? Ain't necessary that this be art work.
Nice if it can be. I'd start over from scratch and try to get the best
vise jaws. To hell with what they look like. OMO

bob g.

Guy LaRochelle wrote:


Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I


don't

even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods


etc

and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both


my

jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws


or

would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over


since

it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy








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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:09:40 -0600, "Guy LaRochelle"
wrote:

Hi guys,

I just screwed up and I am kind of ticked off. What a moron I am and I don't
even know how I made the mistake. I bought a large front vise from Lee
Valley to put on my workbench. I cut the front and rear jaws, I used the
template that came with the vise to bore all my holes for the guide rods etc
and I go to put it on my workbench and my holes are drilled in the wrong
place........arrrrgh. I am now short about 1/4" on the top edge of both my
jaws so they are not flush with the top of my bench. Does anyone see any
reason why I couldn't laminate a 1/4" edge to the top edge of both jaws or
would that create a weak spot? It would be a shame to start all over since
it was the nicest pieces of birch I could find in my shop. Regards. -Guy




make that 1/4" piece out of the hardest, darkesd wood you can find,
and it'll be a "feature"...
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