You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
....

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?

What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
useless...

--

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:54:14 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
...

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?

So that would be a vote for the Rockler unit, I guess.


What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
useless...


No downside, merely trying to prevent the "It's $200! I could build one in
10 minutes for free with scraps" argument. Trying to ensure folks stay
focused on the pro and cons of the device itself.

After all, this is usenet. ;-)

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 4:54:14 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
...

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Do either of the ones you've made include the angle gauge and pivot or
are they simply crosscut as virtually every homemade (regardless of how
precise of simple or fancy) I've ever seen has been?

So that would be a vote for the Rockler unit, I guess.


What's the downside of simply accepting something offered as for free
and trying it out to see if it will replace something else; you can
always pass it on if not or throw it in the dustbin if it's really
useless...


No downside, merely trying to prevent the "It's $200! I could build one in
10 minutes for free with scraps" argument. Trying to ensure folks stay
focused on the pro and cons of the device itself.

After all, this is usenet. ;-)

OK, my money is on:

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/incra-miter-express
and
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/incra-miter-gauge-1000hd

;-)

DerbyDad03 wrote:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

"THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"

From the 1st comment of this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN4MFLb_MKs

"I bought one, with the cheer leading from my local Rockler staff, buried on the
info somewhere on the back page on line 16 or 18 is the most vital information
you need to know. "THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"
Seems to me that this relevant bit of information should be oh I don't know on
the first line or even on the box! Second it would have been nice to have had
the staff at least mention this small but ever so pertinent bit of information."

Spalted Walt wrote:


"THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR/PORTABLE TABLE SAW"

..... and Will Sampson says the opposite @ 0:10 in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XhMukW7Xt0

:-/

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

If someone gave it to me I would use it, would also be grateful
especially those big numbers on the angle indicator.

But I am not going to stimulate the economy and spend the over $190 at
Rockler. Emotional attachment is to the money.

I would (did) spend another $130 and get the incredibly accurate incra 5000.

On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled



Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby. It
is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are almost 20
years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/

On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled



Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.Â* If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it.Â* If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.Â* It
is larger and you can buy for either side get both.Â* Mine are almost 20
years old.Â* Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 4/14/2018 2:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled



Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.Â* If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it.Â* If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.Â* Mine are
almost 20 years old.Â* Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again.Â*Â* :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xde


Pretty cool!

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 3:26:17 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled



Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.Â* If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it.Â* If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.Â* It
is larger and you can buy for either side get both.Â* Mine are almost 20
years old.Â* Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk



Nice!

On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.


You just can't help yourself can you?

On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.


You just can't help yourself can you?

Eaten up with jealousy as his comments and views are irrelevant and most
often out of touch.

On 4/15/2018 8:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.


You just can't help yourself can you?


At least those that buy the tools, that he applies his tool snobbery
too, actually build something. I do not recall seeing any thing lately
that he has accomplished with his favored tools. Can you guess who
appears under another name when Leon makes a comment about Festool?

On 4/15/2018 9:59 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both. Mine are
almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/


I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did. Excellent.


You just can't help yourself can you?

Didn't know I was supposed to do that?

Please delete offensive response and replace it with just a "+1"



--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On 4/15/2018 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled. I've
made 2 of my own, a large one and
a small one. They work perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is anything
inherently wrong with the
Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes, it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform
is another $38. Yes, it is
constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents of
Califormia. But you don't have to
pay for it and you don't live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or
reasons) that you would forgo it's use and continue using your home
made sled, other than the
emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.Â* If you are going to get it for free,
jump on it.Â* If you were going to buy you should consider the Dubby.
It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.Â* Mine are
almost 20 years old.Â* Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/



I guess I should show mine, again.Â*Â* :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike.Â* I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted white
from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of sliding
tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and wonder if that's
where you got your painted plywood?

Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I buy
it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff. You can,
and did.Â* Excellent.

On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for
free, jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider
the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
Mine are almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/




I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?


The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
bright, and glue doesn't stick to it. I had just finished a bookcase
job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
my outfeed table.
https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE


Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
You can, and did. Excellent.


Thanks, Jack. For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
money or more money than time. Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
device I need to finish a paid project. But most times, I do like the
satisfaction of building them myself.

I think for people new to woodworking, building jigs is an excellent way
to learn and practice many different skills and techniques.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:57:23 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby. If you are going to get it for
free, jump on it. If you were going to buy you should consider
the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
Mine are almost 20 years old. Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/




I guess I should show mine, again. :-)
https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike. I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?


The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
bright, and glue doesn't stick to it. I had just finished a bookcase
job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
my outfeed table.
https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE


Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
You can, and did. Excellent.


Thanks, Jack. For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
money or more money than time. Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
device I need to finish a paid project.

Oh My Gosh! How could you? Tool Snob! Tool Snob! Tool Snob!

;-)

On 4/15/2018 10:57 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/15/18 8:19 AM, Jack wrote:
On 4/14/2018 3:26 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 4/13/18 7:59 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/13/2018 2:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".

I'll start by saying that I don't need another cross cut sled.
I've made 2 of my own, a large one and a small one. They work
perfectly fine.

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. Yes,
it cost $150. Yes, the drop-off platform is another $38. Yes,
it is constructed of materials known to be harmful to residents
of Califormia. But you don't have to pay for it and you don't
live in CA. (Well, most of you don't.)

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

www.rockler.com/tablesaw-crosscut-sled

Well, it is a copy of the Dubby.Â* If you are going to get it for
free, jump on it.Â* If you were going to buy you should consider
the Dubby. It is larger and you can buy for either side get both.
Mine are almost 20 years old.Â* Very accurate.

http://www.in-lineindustries.com/pro...able-saw-sled/





I guess I should show mine, again.Â*Â* :-) https://youtu.be/DPg5xdeyCQk

Very nice Mike.Â* I have a bunch of 4x8' 3/4" ceder plywood painted
white from an above ground pool I destructed and made a couple of
sliding tables from it, looks just like the stuff you used, and
wonder if that's where you got your painted plywood?


The sheet I used is actually regular old melamine covered particle board.
I use the stuff for temporary project tables because it's cheap, flat,
bright, and glue doesn't stick to it.Â* I had just finished a bookcase
job and had the sheets from the tables, so I used them for the sled and
my outfeed table.
https://youtu.be/LRgwJzlFrOE

Just a note here Mike. Glue Does stick to Melamine, if you are careful
you can get it off. My old Jet cabinet saw had the same material for
the right extension table, AKA my glue up station. There were chunks of
Melamine missing where glue would drip and a scrap piece of wood would
be placed. ;~) If the glue simply dried/cured on the surface I used a
cabinet scraper to remove the blob.





Anyhow, that is a nice sled, but pretty sure it won't work as you
actually made it yourself instead of spending a huge wad of cash like
Â*some in this group seem to require in order to cut a straight line.
Something about the more you spend, the straighter the line, or 'I
buy it because I can'. I like the 'I build it because I can' stuff.
You can, and did.Â* Excellent.


Thanks, Jack.Â* For me it all depends on whether I have more time than
money or more money than time.Â* Sometimes, I'll pay to buy a jig or
device I need to finish a paid project.Â* But most times, I do like the
satisfaction of building them myself.

True! It often makes sense to build a jig as it can be so unique that
you can not buy one. And then there are times when time is money and
getting the job done on time out weighs the cost of the jig.


I think for people new to woodworking, building jigs is an excellent way
to learn and practice many different skills and techniques.


+1

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

Not having one might be a reason.

On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

Not having one might be a reason.

You asked, and I quote:

"If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
to your good ole sled?"

This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
reason to not "just try it"?

I can't help myself, I have to give the Comet a

+1

with or w/o punctuation.

I also can't help adding that if someone gave me one, I'd just try it,
and if I discovered a reason to forgo it's use, I'd try to sell the damn
thing to someone that can't cut a straight line w/o an over priced
gadget. Otherwise, I'd brag endlessly about how I easily cut straight
lines with this overpriced tool and everyone serious about cutting
straight lines should own one...

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

Not having one might be a reason.
d
You asked, and I quote:

"If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
to your good ole sled?"

This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
reason to not "just try it"?

Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...

Idiot

On 4/17/2018 5:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 4/17/2018 6:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:07:13 AM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT)
DerbyDad03 wrote:

there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use

any reason not to just try it

Not having one might be a reason.
d
You asked, and I quote:

"If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off table, is
there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would forgo it's use and
continue using your home made sled, other than the emotional attachment
to your good ole sled?"

This eliminates the reason "not having one" might be a reason. If
someone gave you one, then you would have one, so, is there any other
reason to not "just try it"?

Wait...hold on...what's that word? Oh yeah...

Idiot

Yes, you would have to be an idiot not to "just try a tool" someone gave
you rather than ask what everyone thinks.

-1

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
[...]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.

(Set the two alleged "squares" on my jointer bed, facing each other and touching at the
bottoms... and measured a gap at the top of nearly 1/16". Repeated on the jointer fence and
the table saw, just to make sure; same results. Repeated that test in the store, too, when I
returned them, in hopes that I just got a bad pair. Nope, they were all like that, and many
were even worse.)

Out by 1/32" over only 6" doesn't meet *my* definition of square. Hopefully the sled is better.

FWIW, I wound up buying a set of four Jevons 3D Squares http://www.jevonstoolco.com/ at
the Woodworking Show a short time later. He guarantees 0.002" max per 6" and according
to my Starrett square it's actually 0.000, which I like a lot better than 0.030...

On 4/22/18 10:13 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
[...]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.

(Set the two alleged "squares" on my jointer bed, facing each other and touching at the
bottoms... and measured a gap at the top of nearly 1/16". Repeated on the jointer fence and
the table saw, just to make sure; same results. Repeated that test in the store, too, when I
returned them, in hopes that I just got a bad pair. Nope, they were all like that, and many
were even worse.)

Out by 1/32" over only 6" doesn't meet *my* definition of square. Hopefully the sled is better.

FWIW, I wound up buying a set of four Jevons 3D Squares http://www.jevonstoolco.com/ at
the Woodworking Show a short time later. He guarantees 0.002" max per 6" and according
to my Starrett square it's actually 0.000, which I like a lot better than 0.030...


I had the same experience with the Rockler "squares."
I left a review on their site, stating such, along with the many other
similar reviews.
I don't know how they sell any of them with those reviews.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 11:13:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
[...]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.


Good point, although as long as the fence has room past 90°, making it square should be
simple. The video shows the user cutting off a small piece as part of the setup, so squaring
it appears possible.

Granted, if the gauge is unusable, or inaccuracies have to compensated for, that's certainly a
drawback.

On 4/23/18 5:51 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 11:13:47 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

You'll notice I didn't say "buy", I said "use".
[...]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether or not there is
anything inherently wrong with the Rockler Cross Cut sled. [...]

If someone *gave* you a Rockler Cross Cut sled and drop-off
table, is there a specific reason (or reasons) that you would
forgo it's use and continue using your home made sled, other
than the emotional attachment to your good ole sled?

Well, considering the source, I think I'd want to check it first to make sure it actually cuts
square. If its accuracy is similar to the pair of the Rockler Assembly Squares
http://www.rockler.com/clamp-it-assembly-square
that I bought about 15 years ago, and returned for a refund later the same day, then I'd say
that's more than sufficient reason not to use it.


Good point, although as long as the fence has room past 90°, making it square should be
simple. The video shows the user cutting off a small piece as part of the setup, so squaring
it appears possible.

Granted, if the gauge is unusable, or inaccuracies have to compensated for, that's certainly a
drawback.


You last sentence could be used as a blanket statement for most of
Rockler's jigs/accessories.

Great ideas for jigs, but when it comes down to actually manufacturing
them, they often fall short in the details. Sometimes plastic just
doesn't cut it when trying to replicate things that other companies are
doing with machined metal.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com