https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


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On 2/5/2018 9:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html


So this thing is $133 with the coupon.Â* Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.



-Mike-,

This appears to be the one I bought from them on sale two years ago.
Sale price now seems comparable and it looks the same (too damn cold to
go out to the garage and check the model number).

I trust nothing (don't care if it's Jet, Porter Cable, Delta, etc) to be
properly set up and adjusted out of the box. I unpacked this, read the
instructions and proceeded to check it for accuracy. Other than
adjusting the angle index pointer a smidgen, it was dead nuts on all the
way around.

I've done a number of projects (trimming out some window replacements,
etc) and I'm happy as a clam with the damn thing. All told, I guess I
have had the motor running, for effect, close to 40 minutes cutting this
that and the other thing and it runs like new, is still properly aligned.

YMMV but I'd say you can't beat it.


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On 2/5/18 10:04 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 2/5/2018 9:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html


So this thing is $133 with the coupon.Â* Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.



-Mike-,

This appears to be the one I bought from them on sale two years ago.
Sale price now seems comparable and it looks the same (too damn cold to
go out to the garage and check the model number).

I trust nothing (don't care if it's Jet, Porter Cable, Delta, etc) to be
properly set up and adjusted out of the box.Â* I unpacked this, read the
instructions and proceeded to check it for accuracy.Â* Other than
adjusting the angle index pointer a smidgen, it was dead nuts on all the
way around.

I've done a number of projects (trimming out some window replacements,
etc) and I'm happy as a clam with the damn thing.Â* All told, I guess I
have had the motor running, for effect, close to 40 minutes cutting this
that and the other thing and it runs like new, is still properly aligned.

YMMV but I'd say you can't beat it.


Thanks.
I figure it might be worth it to have as a beater that I don't care if
it gets stolen or damaged.


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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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www.mikedrums.com

-MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.

You don't need dual bevel for crown.

https://youtu.be/ThhJI6aTIl0

On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

I have had one for several years. Works well as a chop saw (the sliding ability especially) but I don't use the compound bevel simply because I would rather do it on something I can control better.

On 2/6/18 4:46 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.

You don't need dual bevel for crown.

https://youtu.be/ThhJI6aTIl0



Well, I know you don't *need* it but it sure is convenient.
That's a cool jig. I have a crown-cut that I use and I will also put
down spring angle stop on the saw at times.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 2/6/18 5:44 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


I have had one for several years. Works well as a chop saw (the
sliding ability especially) but I don't use the compound bevel
simply because I would rather do it on something I can control
better.


Control better?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 4:46 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.

You don't need dual bevel for crown.

https://youtu.be/ThhJI6aTIl0



Well, I know you don't *need* it but it sure is convenient.
That's a cool jig. I have a crown-cut that I use and I will also put
down spring angle stop on the saw at times.



Well! I figured you knew it, LOL, but this guy seems to have a few
tricks up his sleeve for trimming. He has some very interesting videos in
addition to this one.

-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 5:44 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


I have had one for several years. Works well as a chop saw (the
sliding ability especially) but I don't use the compound bevel
simply because I would rather do it on something I can control
better.


Control better?



Setting accurate bevel angles on these saws can be troublesome unless
cutting at 90 or 45.

Now for the price of 10 of these you can get one that very easily and
accurately cuts the in between bevels............ :-). Loving mine so
far.

On 2/6/18 10:20 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 5:44 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


I have had one for several years. Works well as a chop saw (the
sliding ability especially) but I don't use the compound bevel
simply because I would rather do it on something I can control
better.


Control better?



Setting accurate bevel angles on these saws can be troublesome unless
cutting at 90 or 45.


Yeah, that's the kind of thing that make it very NOT worth it, IMO.
Seems like the perfect saw for a decking guy who can knock it around,
let it get wet, not lose sleep if it walks off the site.


Now for the price of 10 of these you can get one that very easily and
accurately cuts the in between bevels............ :-). Loving mine so
far.


Are you? Does it set angle really quick and easy? I mean, I think I
know the answer.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 2/6/18 10:20 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 4:46 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.

You don't need dual bevel for crown.

https://youtu.be/ThhJI6aTIl0



Well, I know you don't *need* it but it sure is convenient.
That's a cool jig. I have a crown-cut that I use and I will also put
down spring angle stop on the saw at times.



Well! I figured you knew it, LOL, but this guy seems to have a few
tricks up his sleeve for trimming. He has some very interesting videos in
addition to this one.


I'll have to check out some more of them.
Working solo, I'm always looking for ways to be more efficient.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

I have experience with two of them, each used for different reasons. One, my buddy that builds mostly decks has this saw and loves it. Sturdy, accurate, and lasts well on the job. He buys the guarantee/warranty just in case (as it is based on the sale price, not replacement cost!) and uses two of these a lot. He also uses it for framing to cut blocking and no doubt ridge cuts on rafters, etc.

The other is a retired contractor that wanted a sliding miter saw but couldn't afford a new DeWalt, Bosch or anything along those lines. He bought it, found it to be a bit out of adjustment, and he fiddled with it and got it spot on. Then he decided to take apart the traverse carrier mechanism and see what he could do with that. A simple clean up and re-lube and it (I have pulled it through a cut or two) is a smooth as the premium saws.

So my take away from the two of them is that it might take a little bit of finishing touches but you will get a good saw in the end. OTOH, this saw has come up in discussion with guys I know that tell me they have bought it and out of the box they couldn't be more pleased.

Don't see how you could lose at that price. Due to the fact that many of my tools wind up being consumables for one reason or another, I am always looking for viable alternatives to premium priced equipment. I try to keep up with tool pricing and utility value. I have had the strongest feeling that over the years that many of HF's tools offerings have come up in quality while the other more premium brands have gone down.

Robert

On 2/6/2018 10:45 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 10:20 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 5:44 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html


So this thing is $133 with the coupon.Â* Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it
does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.


I have had one for several years.Â* Works well as a chop saw (the
sliding ability especially)Â* but I don't use the compound bevel
simply because I would rather do it on something I can control
better.


Control better?



Setting accurate bevel angles on these saws can be troublesome unless
cutting at 90 or 45.


Yeah, that's the kind of thing that make it very NOT worth it, IMO.
Seems like the perfect saw for a decking guy who can knock it around,
let it get wet, not lose sleep if it walks off the site.

No doubt a very useful tool for some applications.






Now for the price of 10 of these you can get one that very easily and
accurately cuts the in between bevels............Â*Â*Â* :-). Loving mine so
far.


Are you?Â* Does it set angle really quick and easy?Â* I mean, I think I
know the answer.


Yes, very easily, quickly, and accurately. LARGE bevel scale, about as
large as the miter scale.
Puts, setting a bevel on a TS, to S h a m e...

On 2/5/2018 8:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html



So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.
I'm guessing it's a steaming POS, but who knows?
Maybe it's a diamond in the rough.



I've been pretty disappointed in HF power tools of late, but I recently
picked up an oscillating drum sander that worked out quite well. Maybe
this will be like that.

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?

Now for the price of 10 of these you can get one that very easily and
accurately cuts the in between bevels............ :-). Loving mine so
far.

You LIE !!!!!!!
The Festool Kapex is $1475 list, MSRP, actual selling price because as you know, there ain't no sale price discount on Festool. So, $1475 / $133 is 11 times!!!!! I imagine people would be selling their wives, slitting their kid's throats, and murdering their neighbors if they could get a Kapex for a mere, measly $1330 bargain price.

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?

Now for the price of 10 of these you can get one that very easily and
accurately cuts the in between bevels............ :-). Loving mine so
far.

You LIE !!!!!!!
The Festool Kapex is $1475 list, MSRP, actual selling price because as you know, there ain't no sale price discount on Festool. So, $1475 / $133 is 11 times!!!!! I imagine people would be selling their wives, slitting their kid's throats, and murdering their neighbors if they could get a Kapex for a mere, measly $1330 bargain price.

Leon might let you look at his for $1330. Look, but don't touch.

On 2/6/2018 11:20 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 2/6/18 4:46 AM, Leon wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-Double-Bevel-Sliding-Compound-Miter-Saw-With-Laser-Guide-System-61969.html

So this thing is $133 with the coupon. Anybody have one?
I'm thinking about buying it just for kicks and to check out how it does.
The dual bevel is really useful for crown molding.

You don't need dual bevel for crown.

https://youtu.be/ThhJI6aTIl0



Well, I know you don't *need* it but it sure is convenient.
That's a cool jig. I have a crown-cut that I use and I will also put
down spring angle stop on the saw at times.

Well! I figured you knew it, LOL, but this guy seems to have a few
tricks up his sleeve for trimming. He has some very interesting videos in
addition to this one.

I'm not a big fan of safety crap, or comments on unsafe youtube videos,
but the very first cut this guy makes on his table saw is so wrong it
bothered even me. He is making a cut off with the end of the board
against the rip fence, and is standing directly behind the blade. (2:25
into the video) Making a cut off like this is asking for major kick
back, catching the board between the blade and the fence, and if he has
an over powered saw like you have, he is asking for trouble. I guess
it's possible it just looks like the board is against the fence, but it
sure looks like it to me. He seems to know what he's doing, so it could
be not what it looks like.

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Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
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