will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!

On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

Even moreso a better (or some) description of the item being built and its intended usage(s)

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:08:11 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor

"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message ...

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor

I used V cutters (similar shape to those shown on the web site) for a
milk-painted plywood project that had edges that were going to see some
abuse. However I used a 3 HP shaper with shaper cutters instead of a
router. I edged with poplar as I recall and it held up very well.

On 1/8/18 4:16 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Scott Lurndal"Â* wrote in message ...

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor


I used V cutters (similar shape to those shown on the web site) for a
milk-painted plywood project that had edges that were going to see some
abuse.Â* However I used a 3 HP shaper with shaper cutters instead of a
router.Â* I edged with poplar as I recall and it held up very well.

As I stated in another reply, I would be very worried that the convex V
on the hardwood edging would split the plywood when clamped.

I would love to hear from someone like you who has used them.
Did you have any issues with that?


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 1/8/18 10:27 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor


I don't think those specialty edge bits are worth the hassle.
The V bit is trouble waiting to happen. Imagine how easy it would be to
split the plywood when clamped.

There's plenty of surface area for glue which makes for a very strong
bond on hardwood edging on a flat butt joint. No biscuits or screws or
anything else.

When I want a really strong edge band and a higher profile (looks better
in most cases), I do a simple rabbet on the edging which can bee seen in
this pic.
http://mikedrums.com/shelf_edge_bot.jpg
It is incredibly strong with just glue.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 1/8/2018 5:33 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/8/18 10:27 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws?Â* Dowels, maybe.Â* Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes.Â* Glue works, too.Â* I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws.Â* Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation.Â* :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor



I don't think those specialty edge bits are worth the hassle.
The V bit is trouble waiting to happen.Â* Imagine how easy it would be to
split the plywood when clamped.

There's plenty of surface area for glue which makes for a very strong
bond on hardwood edging on a flat butt joint.Â* No biscuits or screws or
anything else.

When I want a really strong edge band and a higher profile (looks better
in most cases), I do a simple rabbet on the edging which can bee seen in
this pic.
http://mikedrums.com/shelf_edge_bot.jpg
It is incredibly strong with just glue.



My biggest concern with any bit for this purpose is insuring that the
stock is perfectly flat when milling. If the trim or the panel is
slightly warped the fit will be poor.

As stater earlier by Keith, IIRC, I prefer something like Dominoes to
index off the surface of the Domino fence.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:33:40 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 1/8/18 10:27 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor


I don't think those specialty edge bits are worth the hassle.
The V bit is trouble waiting to happen. Imagine how easy it would be to
split the plywood when clamped.

There's plenty of surface area for glue which makes for a very strong
bond on hardwood edging on a flat butt joint. No biscuits or screws or
anything else.

When I want a really strong edge band and a higher profile (looks better
in most cases), I do a simple rabbet on the edging which can bee seen in
this pic.
http://mikedrums.com/shelf_edge_bot.jpg
It is incredibly strong with just glue.

Of course, that adds to the (visual) "weight" of the panel. It also
adds a lot of strength. I did a plough on the edges of my work
benches. On my cutting table, I have a piece of MDF set 1/4" proud of
the edging so the track saw blade doesn't get the banding. The other
is 3/4" proud. I have a piece of melamine in it, with Kreg clamp
tracks down two edges (haven't quite finished this one).

On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 16:27:51 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good idea. Leon
would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued 2" oak edges on oak
ply and it held quite well without screws. Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation. :-)
Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a period at the
end of a sentence.
It's easier to do that using the shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor

Alignment isn't a trivial proposition. Unless it's going to take some
pretty dramatic abuse, glue works fine without the routing. Glue is
likely stronger than the fibers of the plywood but it could be that
the tongue/groove will provide some strength, as long as there is more
than one ply top and bottom.

On 1/9/18 5:55 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 16:27:51 GMT, (Scott
Lurndal) wrote:

-MIKE- writes:
On 1/7/18 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:41:44 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote:


will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use but
will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer
but what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be
best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities

Screws? Dowels, maybe. Some may think biscuits are a good
idea. Leon would suggest Dominoes. Glue works, too. I glued
2" oak edges on oak ply and it held quite well without screws.
Screws in woodworking?!!!


I think he underestimates the strength of glue and punctuation.
:-) Solid wood glued to the edge of plywood is as strong as a
period at the end of a sentence. It's easier to do that using the
shift bar on a keyboard.

Indeed.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shop...banding_anchor


Alignment isn't a trivial proposition. Unless it's going to take
some pretty dramatic abuse, glue works fine without the routing.
Glue is likely stronger than the fibers of the plywood but it could
be that the tongue/groove will provide some strength, as long as
there is more than one ply top and bottom.


I don't even bother trying to get perfect alignment on my edging
(including the one pictured in my other post).
I glue them on proud of the plywood thickness and then run them through
the router with a pattern bit. It doesn't get more perfect or easy than
that.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

On 1/7/2018 3:41 PM, Electric Comet wrote:

will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities



As others point out, simply gluing solid wood strip to plywood, assuming it
is decent stuff and not full of voids, should be strong enough for most
purposes. On one project I cut a centered dado on plywood shelves and a
matching tongue on the facing strip. It worked a treat but was a serious
PITA to mill accurately and probably not worth the extra effort.

On 1/7/2018 1:41 PM, Electric Comet wrote:

will be making some stuff that will be for indoor use
but will be handled and will be mobile


want to keep it thin and light and cheap so ply is the answer but
what are the options for the edges

no edge banding or veneer as it will not hold up well enough


think that maybe some solid wood glued and screwed would be best

but maybe there are other treatments or possibilities



How tough does it need to be? Simple oak trim, glue, and pins seems to
work pretty well for utility shelves. Puppies on the other hand will
tear it off. They chew on everything.

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 14:11:55 -0700
Bob La Londe wrote:

How tough does it need to be? Simple oak trim, glue, and pins seems
to work pretty well for utility shelves. Puppies on the other hand

that might be what i do or something like that

may use leather trim all the way around


still in that deciding and design stage