I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..


--
Jeff

On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:13:43 -0400, woodchucker
wrote:

I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..

So you'd cheat people out of the nails they've paid for?

On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:33:10 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:13:43 -0400, woodchucker
wrote:

I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..

So you'd cheat people out of the nails they've paid for?

NEVER!!!! I'd glue a box of nails into the corner on the underside- -
- - - -

On Sun, 14 May 2017 20:14:55 -0400, clare wrote:

On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:33:10 -0400, wrote:

So you'd cheat people out of the nails they've paid for?

NEVER!!!! I'd glue a box of nails into the corner on the underside- -
- - - -

Nice to see the tradition of solid customer service lives on in the East!

Cheers,
Colin

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 6:13:52 PM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..



Maybe Norm put the nails there while the glue dried.

On Sun, 14 May 2017 17:27:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 6:13:52 PM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..



Maybe Norm put the nails there while the glue dried.

Well, at least they left some exposed so they'd be easier to pull
after the glue dried.

woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.


I feel your pain

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..



and let her know what it's really worth.

On 5/14/2017 5:13 PM, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..




Some people are fooled into thinking high priced means high end.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 09:01:32 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 5/14/2017 5:13 PM, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..




Some people are fooled into thinking high priced means high end.
And many more are fooled into thinking "hand made" means quality - -
- -

writes:
On Mon, 15 May 2017 09:01:32 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 5/14/2017 5:13 PM, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..




Some people are fooled into thinking high priced means high end.
And many more are fooled into thinking "hand made" means quality - -

And some people are fooled into thinking that nailed furniture is bad :-)

Quality is in the eye of the beholder, methinks.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 17:27:09 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 15 May 2017 09:01:32 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 5/14/2017 5:13 PM, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the nails
showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with a air
nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face frame had
the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside from this
distraction.

Another piece had nail holes filled with a non-matching filler...
Drawers were nailed together.

I saw many useless barn door sliding hardware pieces that were over
used, and they didn't roll well.

The price was high for all pieces.

So my wife wanted me to reproduce piece.. I said ****.. no problem it's
just nailed. But I think I'll add glue, and maybe drop the nails..




Some people are fooled into thinking high priced means high end.
And many more are fooled into thinking "hand made" means quality - -

And some people are fooled into thinking that nailed furniture is bad :-)

Quality is in the eye of the beholder, methinks.

Sure, some even buy from Ikea. Kitchens, no less!

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.


I agree with Leon and cl snyder.ca. Just because something costs a lot of money or is handmade, does not mean its good quality. And on the flip side, because something is nailed does not mean its bad either. Everything is tied together. Materials, construction technique, design. I'll admit to making a box with handcut through dovetails. But it still did not turn out to be a fine piece of work worthy of a museum.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.


I agree with Leon and cl snyder.ca. Just because something costs a lot of money or is handmade, does not mean its good quality. And on the flip side, because something is nailed does not mean its bad either. Everything is tied together. Materials, construction technique, design. I'll admit to making a box with handcut through dovetails. But it still did not turn out to be a fine piece of work worthy of a museum.

I disagree. I can't imagine *any* reason to use nails on furniture.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 21:34:08 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.


I agree with Leon and cl snyder.ca. Just because something costs a lot of money or is handmade, does not mean its good quality. And on the flip side, because something is nailed does not mean its bad either. Everything is tied together. Materials, construction technique, design. I'll admit to making a box with handcut through dovetails. But it still did not turn out to be a fine piece of work worthy of a museum.

I disagree. I can't imagine *any* reason to use nails on furniture.

For upholstery is the only use I want nails then I really do not want
to see them, not even the trim ones. YMMV as well as taste.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 21:34:08 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 12:52:44 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 5:13:52 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.


I agree with Leon and cl snyder.ca. Just because something costs a lot of money or is handmade, does not mean its good quality. And on the flip side, because something is nailed does not mean its bad either. Everything is tied together. Materials, construction technique, design. I'll admit to making a box with handcut through dovetails. But it still did not turn out to be a fine piece of work worthy of a museum.

I disagree. I can't imagine *any* reason to use nails on furniture.
Particularly where they can be seen. In cabinetry sometimes a few
brads are in order.

Probably just a fad. I remember huge pieces of furniture made with 2X6s, 2x8s, and even bigger that were stained nearly black and called "Mediterranean". Doubtful they would have taken credit for it.

I remember when heavy, clear finished pine was the rage, big knots and all.

I remember rustic that was assembled with rusty nails and screws with stripped heads, and defects were very highly prized. The fence guy I had at the time had folks stop by every job to see if they could buy his weathered cedar.

I remember distressed finish furniture. You took a nice piece of furniture with good joinery, and then screwed it up by hitting it with metal junk, laying screws, nails, wire and other crap in the surface and tapping it until it dented the wood. Indentions of screw threads were very highly prized. Then we wiped the damage with two different colors of stain to highlight the damage before top coating.

No doubt in my mind that they exposed nails weren't meant to be any kind of statement of craftsmanship, but just another decorating fad.

Hope it goes away. Looking at that kind of thing is really annoying, even though I know the reason that kind of crap is made.

Robert

On 5/16/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
Probably just a fad. I remember huge pieces of furniture made with
2X6s, 2x8s, and even bigger that were stained nearly black and called
"Mediterranean". Doubtful they would have taken credit for it.

I remember when heavy, clear finished pine was the rage, big knots
and all.

I remember rustic that was assembled with rusty nails and screws with
stripped heads, and defects were very highly prized. The fence guy I
had at the time had folks stop by every job to see if they could buy
his weathered cedar.

I remember distressed finish furniture. You took a nice piece of
furniture with good joinery, and then screwed it up by hitting it
with metal junk, laying screws, nails, wire and other crap in the
surface and tapping it until it dented the wood. Indentions of screw
threads were very highly prized. Then we wiped the damage with two
different colors of stain to highlight the damage before top
coating.

No doubt in my mind that they exposed nails weren't meant to be any
kind of statement of craftsmanship, but just another decorating fad.

Hope it goes away. Looking at that kind of thing is really annoying,
even though I know the reason that kind of crap is made.

Robert


And don't forget the Spanish style furniture with the rusted hardware
that is so undersized that it would surely break if used regularly, not
to mention the used motor oil stain. LOL

Kim and I went in to a new model home the other day, the kitchen
cabinets were built with wood that had open defects, face frames, door
frames and raised panels. Literally no part of a board was cut out for
ascetics. Now I will say they were so heavily stained/painted that the
defects were simply deep indentations with no change of color.
Not as bad to look at as you might imagine.

On Sun, 14 May 2017 18:13:43 -0400
woodchucker wrote:

I have to say I have never seen high end stuff nailed and with the
nails showing both on the outside where the shelves were nailed with
a air nailer and left unfilled. And the right angle corners and face
frame had the nail holes showing. this on a nice looking piece aside
from this distraction.

if it has nails exposed it is not high end


high price is not high end

woodchucker wrote in news:dOidnUkNr7MES4XEnZ2dnUU7-
:

I was wrong all these years. I always thought you glued and clamped.
My wife dragged me to this high end store , in a very high end town.

A lot of the furniture was nailed together,some with the nails still
exposed, some plugged with filler.

You know it was high-end stuff because they used nails.
The cheap stuff they'd use staples.

John