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Ridiculous new tool from Woodpeckers
They are offering an organizer for 189.
Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. -- Jeff |
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On 11/22/2016 12:56 PM, woodchucker wrote:
They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. It did not even look like anything I would ever use.... |
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On 11/22/2016 1:56 PM, woodchucker wrote:
They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in their marketing meetings. I'm sure some will buy it but I can't imagine that quantity will significant. |
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On 11/22/2016 2:39 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 11/22/2016 1:56 PM, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in their marketing meetings. I'm sure some will buy it but I can't imagine that quantity will significant. Which then leads to the question why bother? It's just something that makes me dislike the brand more and more. They have a few decent items, and a lot of ****. I would buy Starret before I ever bought many of their measuring tools. While Starrett is premium, many times it's cheaper than WP. -- Jeff |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 14:59:14 -0500, woodchucker
wrote: On 11/22/2016 2:39 PM, Meanie wrote: On 11/22/2016 1:56 PM, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in their marketing meetings. I'm sure some will buy it but I can't imagine that quantity will significant. Which then leads to the question why bother? It's just something that makes me dislike the brand more and more. They have a few decent items, and a lot of ****. I would buy Starret before I ever bought many of their measuring tools. While Starrett is premium, many times it's cheaper than WP. Their story boards an Peolini (sp?) rules are really nice. It's expensive stuff, to be sure, but it is good. |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. -- Jeff You are not being fair. For $189 you get an extra base bracket so you can transfer the bar to a different location when desired. Now we're talking about a real value! |
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Ridiculous new tool from Woodpeckers
I, er, get my, er, (appropriatly sized) draw-er-string storage bags, foyer free, every, er, time I buyer my Crown Royal.
Sonny |
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"Sonny" wrote in message
... I, er, get my, er, (appropriatly sized) draw-er-string storage bags, foyer free, every, er, time I buyer my Crown Royal. Sonny Lots of draw string bags around here from the wife's shoe collection. Oh... :O you didn't know about those? |
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woodchucker wrote:
They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. |
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On 11/22/2016 2:23 PM, Bill wrote:
woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Well this is a product that Woodpeckers sells, or wants to sell. Not knowing their actual cost they may have to sell or try to sell at that price to maintain their profit margin. |
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Ridiculous new tool from Woodpeckers
Leon wrote:
On 11/22/2016 2:23 PM, Bill wrote: woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Well this is a product that Woodpeckers sells, or wants to sell. Not knowing their actual cost they may have to sell or try to sell at that price to maintain their profit margin. Or they could "just say, no thank you" as a way of being respectful to their customers... |
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On 11/22/2016 7:15 PM, Bill wrote:
Leon wrote: On 11/22/2016 2:23 PM, Bill wrote: woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Well this is a product that Woodpeckers sells, or wants to sell. Not knowing their actual cost they may have to sell or try to sell at that price to maintain their profit margin. Or they could "just say, no thank you" as a way of being respectful to their customers... Your are assuming that they don't have money to throw away. I certainly would not buy it but there are customers for "todays" Bridge City Tools and Audi's. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:08:51 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 11/22/2016 2:23 PM, Bill wrote: woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Well this is a product that Woodpeckers sells, or wants to sell. Not knowing their actual cost they may have to sell or try to sell at that price to maintain their profit margin. It's not a good idea to tarnish your reputation selling such things because you have to maintain margins. Just don't do it. |
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Ridiculous new tool from Woodpeckers
krw wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:08:51 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 11/22/2016 2:23 PM, Bill wrote: woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html 6 bags for $118... wow, such a deal! : ) As someone else mentioned, they are tarnishing their brand... It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Well this is a product that Woodpeckers sells, or wants to sell. Not knowing their actual cost they may have to sell or try to sell at that price to maintain their profit margin. It's not a good idea to tarnish your reputation selling such things because you have to maintain margins. Just don't do it. I'm looking from a different stand point. I already do not care for Woodpeckers business model so from that stand point adding a brand product that is way over priced seems par for the course. Basically for me their reputation was already tarnished. I do not however think this tarnishes the quality of the tools that they manufacture. Either way if there is an audience that buys this particular product they will be making sales, the name of the game. If Woodpeckers did not have the advantage of being the manufacturer of many quality tools I would not buy anything from them. 99% of the time i only go to their site, with out being lured in, to look at the tools that they manufacture. |
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On 11/22/2016 1:56 PM, woodchucker wrote:
They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. They would make good liners for the coffee cans. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:24 -0500, woodchucker
wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Saw that today. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen them do. The $600 doweling jig was at least pretty. I like a lot of their stuff but it seems they're now trying to see how far they can push the envelope. |
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krw wrote in
: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:24 -0500, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Saw that today. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen them do. The $600 doweling jig was at least pretty. I like a lot of their stuff but it seems they're now trying to see how far they can push the envelope. OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 23 Nov 2016 05:04:28 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: krw wrote in : On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:24 -0500, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Saw that today. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen them do. The $600 doweling jig was at least pretty. I like a lot of their stuff but it seems they're now trying to see how far they can push the envelope. OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. All exposure is good? OK, if you say so but I wouldn't want customers laughing at my products. Someone might hear them. |
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On 11/23/2016 11:55 AM, krw wrote:
On 23 Nov 2016 05:04:28 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: krw wrote in : On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:24 -0500, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Saw that today. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen them do. The $600 doweling jig was at least pretty. I like a lot of their stuff but it seems they're now trying to see how far they can push the envelope. OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. All exposure is good? OK, if you say so but I wouldn't want customers laughing at my products. Someone might hear them. There are a few on here that laugh at SS and Festool. Every one sells something that someone does not like. |
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:02:36 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 11/23/2016 11:55 AM, krw wrote: On 23 Nov 2016 05:04:28 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: krw wrote in : On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:24 -0500, woodchucker wrote: They are offering an organizer for 189. Just got an email for this: http://www.woodpeck.com/calavera_5lb_bag_system.html It's basically 5 off the shelf chalk bags (for climbers) and a bar to mount them to. You can get a chalk bag for 7.25 individually. So 5 are 36.25, a bar like they are providing is about $5 in parts if you make it yourself. Let's pay a premium for the name.. yea... lets get raked over the coals. Saw that today. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen them do. The $600 doweling jig was at least pretty. I like a lot of their stuff but it seems they're now trying to see how far they can push the envelope. OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. All exposure is good? OK, if you say so but I wouldn't want customers laughing at my products. Someone might hear them. There are a few on here that laugh at SS and Festool. Every one sells something that someone does not like. I don't know any laughing at SS or Festool. May can't justify the cost and that's completely understandable. I can't justify HF power tools, so... |
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krw wrote in news:ftlb3ch2mkmh0m48rran8ocncqtdusv61o@
4ax.com: On 23 Nov 2016 05:04:28 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. All exposure is good? OK, if you say so but I wouldn't want customers laughing at my products. Someone might hear them. No, but sometimes a crazy or ridiculous thing does more good than harm. If you're nothing but a joke you'll be treated that way, but if you've got a solid core you may find the ridiculous side actually nets you customers you never would have had. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 24 Nov 2016 04:28:24 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: krw wrote in news:ftlb3ch2mkmh0m48rran8ocncqtdusv61o@ 4ax.com: On 23 Nov 2016 05:04:28 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: OTOH, having a somewhat crazy or ridiculous thing to sell does get your stuff and site talked about on the various forums and message boards. A user might just look around a bit and find something they want and make a purchase. All exposure is good? OK, if you say so but I wouldn't want customers laughing at my products. Someone might hear them. No, but sometimes a crazy or ridiculous thing does more good than harm. If you're nothing but a joke you'll be treated that way, but if you've got a solid core you may find the ridiculous side actually nets you customers you never would have had. An April 1st joke is one thing. A *totally* useless, expensive POS doesn't do the reputation any good. As I said, I really like their tools but a friend and I laughed a lot at the doweling jig. This is _much_ worse. |
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Ridiculous new tool from Woodpeckers
Does anyone store anything in bags in their shop? Everything in my shop is in hard sided containers. I consider cardboard boxes to be hard sided. The pictures show bolts, screws, Dominoes, dowels in the bags. But all of these items come in boxes or maybe tubes from the manufacturer. Why would you take the items out of their hard sided containers and put them into these soft sided bags? They are easier to store and access in their original hard sided containers.
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:52:18 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone store anything in bags in their shop? Rags. I have a plastic bag of rags hanging on a hook in my shop. It's a larger-than-grocery-size bag, but with the handles. When hanging on the hook it's "closed" so the dust stays out. |
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On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:26:08 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:52:18 PM UTC-5, wrote: Does anyone store anything in bags in their shop? Rags. I have a plastic bag of rags hanging on a hook in my shop. It's a larger-than-grocery-size bag, but with the handles. When hanging on the hook it's "closed" so the dust stays out. Makes sense. My rags are in a bucket. So has WoodPeckers created the most expensive rag holder in the world? |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:52:16 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Does anyone store anything in bags in their shop? Everything in my shop is in hard sided containers. Do zip lock bags count? If yes, I have and will continue too. |
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On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 1:40:37 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:52:16 -0800 (PST), " wrote: Does anyone store anything in bags in their shop? Everything in my shop is in hard sided containers. Do zip lock bags count? If yes, I have and will continue too. My first thought was "zip lock bags?", but then I realized I have my new & used tack cloths in a zip lock bag. .... biting my tongue! Sonny |
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