I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!

On 8/12/2016 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!



I can t really suggest anything but I am currently working on a foot
board and head board for a customer.

You can look here and use the right on the right side of the screen to
see the progress. If you have any specific questions let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!



I can t really suggest anything but I am currently working on a foot
board and head board for a customer.

You can look here and use the right on the right side of the screen to
see the progress. If you have any specific questions let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Uh...yeah...I've been following your project. It's just a tad above my
pay grade. ;-)

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Yeah. That's a pretty fair amount of wood for it to be glued and screwed to
the uprights. I'm thinking, of course , about the seasonal expansion and
contraction of the wood.

If it were me, I'd probably make the uprights with a deep dado to accept the
ends of the horizontal boards, afix the horizontals to the uprighrs with
only screws through small vertical slots in the ends of the horizontals.
I'd stop the slots an inch or so from where the top edge of the top
horizontal and bottom edge of the bottom horizontal will be and notch the
respective corners of the horizontals so they meet the edges of the
uprights. The panel can then move without you even knowing it

In short, the panel needs to float.

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Yeah. That's a pretty fair amount of wood for it to be glued and screwed to
the uprights. I'm thinking, of course , about the seasonal expansion and
contraction of the wood.


If it were me, I'd probably make the uprights with a deep dado to accept the
ends of the horizontal boards, afix the horizontals to the uprighrs with
only screws through small vertical slots in the ends of the horizontals.

I'm gonna need some help here...

What will prevent the head board from racking if the panel is "loose" in
the dado?

(BTW I didn't mention it, but my daughter wants the end grain of every other
horizontal to show. For the boards that don't show end grain, I was going to
use side grain filler strips. I did this with a "ladder end" bunk bed that
I built years ago and she likes the alternating look.)

I'd stop the slots an inch or so from where the top edge of the top
horizontal and bottom edge of the bottom horizontal will be

Why do you mention just the top and bottom boards? Aren't you suggesting
slots in all the horizontal boards?

Are you still in favor of using biscuits to create a panel? If so, would you
edge glue the horizontals or just glue the biscuits and let the rest of the
wood float.

and notch the
respective corners of the horizontals so they meet the edges of the
uprights.

You've lost me there. What is the point of "notching the corners"? What
corners are you referring too?

The panel can then move without you even knowing it
In short, the panel needs to float.

On 8/12/2016 1:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!



I can t really suggest anything but I am currently working on a foot
board and head board for a customer.

You can look here and use the right on the right side of the screen to
see the progress. If you have any specific questions let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Uh...yeah...I've been following your project. It's just a tad above my
pay grade. ;-)

I'm Confused at what yu are calling "uprights".

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!



I can t really suggest anything but I am currently working on a foot
board and head board for a customer.

You can look here and use the right on the right side of the screen to
see the progress. If you have any specific questions let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Uh...yeah...I've been following your project. It's just a tad above my
pay grade. ;-)

I'm Confused at what yu are calling "uprights".

I'm not sure what else to call them. The front legs? The headboard posts?

If you look at the headboard in this image, you'll see 3 horizontal slats
and 2 vertical "uprights", one on each side. The bed rails protrude
perpendicularly from what I am calling the uprights.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

As I said in my OP, they used solid 4x4's as the uprights. I don't have
4x4's available so...

On my headboard, those uprights will be a sandwich comprised of 2 vertical
boards and the ends of the horizontal boards. I can take a picture when
I get home, but a side view would be something like this:

S = Side grain of vertical boards
E = End grain of horizontal boards
R = Bed Rail

S S
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SSSRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
SSS
SSS
SSS
SSS

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the
headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is
being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the
uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I
will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that
the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board
legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up.
My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the
panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the
back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to
suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Yeah. That's a pretty fair amount of wood for it to be glued and screwed
to
the uprights. I'm thinking, of course , about the seasonal expansion and
contraction of the wood.


If it were me, I'd probably make the uprights with a deep dado to accept
the
ends of the horizontal boards, afix the horizontals to the uprighrs with
only screws through small vertical slots in the ends of the horizontals.

I'm gonna need some help here...

What will prevent the head board from racking if the panel is "loose" in
the dado?

The fact that the ends of the panel boards are tight against the bottom of
the groove and the screws.

Alternately, you could use two rails across your stiles (posts), groove all
around and insert panel. Just like a door.

(BTW I didn't mention it, but my daughter wants the end grain of every
other
horizontal to show. For the boards that don't show end grain, I was going
to
use side grain filler strips. I did this with a "ladder end" bunk bed that
I built years ago and she likes the alternating look.)

I'd stop the slots an inch or so from where the top edge of the top
horizontal and bottom edge of the bottom horizontal will be

Why do you mention just the top and bottom boards? Aren't you suggesting
slots in all the horizontal boards?


If the boards are glued up into a panel, you don't need a screw in each
board end, just enough to hold it firmly in the groove. Three each side
would be plenty...one in the center (no slot needed) and one each near top
and bottom.


Are you still in favor of using biscuits to create a panel? If so, would
you
edge glue the horizontals or just glue the biscuits and let the rest of
the
wood float.

I see no need for biscuits, just another step and the only purpose would be
to align the boards so the faces are flush. "Flush" and "rustic" don't need
to go together. There would be zero reason to use biscuits and glue just
them.

and notch the
respective corners of the horizontals so they meet the edges of the
uprights.

You've lost me there. What is the point of "notching the corners"? What
corners are you referring too?

You would have two verticals, each with a deep groove. The panel would fit
within the groove,. It looks better IMO to visually "stop" the groove.
Just like you would do a shelf in a bookcase.

On 8/12/2016 3:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 1:57 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!



I can t really suggest anything but I am currently working on a foot
board and head board for a customer.

You can look here and use the right on the right side of the screen to
see the progress. If you have any specific questions let me know.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Uh...yeah...I've been following your project. It's just a tad above my
pay grade. ;-)

I'm Confused at what yu are calling "uprights".

I'm not sure what else to call them. The front legs? The headboard posts?

Either works. ;~)



If you look at the headboard in this image, you'll see 3 horizontal slats
and 2 vertical "uprights", one on each side. The bed rails protrude
perpendicularly from what I am calling the uprights.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

As I said in my OP, they used solid 4x4's as the uprights. I don't have
4x4's available so...

On my headboard, those uprights will be a sandwich comprised of 2 vertical
boards and the ends of the horizontal boards. I can take a picture when
I get home, but a side view would be something like this:

S = Side grain of vertical boards
E = End grain of horizontal boards
R = Bed Rail

S S
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SSSRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
SSS
SSS
SSS
SSS




When you sandwich will you allow enough room for the horizontal panel to
expand and contract which climate change?

I did not have 4x4's either. I ran a rabbet along two sides of the post
to lock the other sides together to form a 3.5x3.5 post.

In my set up I am using Domino's and screwing through the hollow legs
into the edge of the center panel. then I will plug the holes, stain
and varnish.

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 7:16:17 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the
headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is
being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the
uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I
will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that
the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board
legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up.
My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the
panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the
back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to
suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Yeah. That's a pretty fair amount of wood for it to be glued and screwed
to
the uprights. I'm thinking, of course , about the seasonal expansion and
contraction of the wood.


If it were me, I'd probably make the uprights with a deep dado to accept
the
ends of the horizontal boards, afix the horizontals to the uprighrs with
only screws through small vertical slots in the ends of the horizontals.

I'm gonna need some help here...

What will prevent the head board from racking if the panel is "loose" in
the dado?

The fact that the ends of the panel boards are tight against the bottom of
the groove and the screws.

Alternately, you could use two rails across your stiles (posts), groove all
around and insert panel. Just like a door.

(BTW I didn't mention it, but my daughter wants the end grain of every
other
horizontal to show. For the boards that don't show end grain, I was going
to
use side grain filler strips. I did this with a "ladder end" bunk bed that
I built years ago and she likes the alternating look.)

I'd stop the slots an inch or so from where the top edge of the top
horizontal and bottom edge of the bottom horizontal will be

Why do you mention just the top and bottom boards? Aren't you suggesting
slots in all the horizontal boards?


If the boards are glued up into a panel, you don't need a screw in each
board end, just enough to hold it firmly in the groove. Three each side
would be plenty...one in the center (no slot needed) and one each near top
and bottom.


Are you still in favor of using biscuits to create a panel? If so, would
you
edge glue the horizontals or just glue the biscuits and let the rest of
the
wood float.

I see no need for biscuits, just another step and the only purpose would be
to align the boards so the faces are flush. "Flush" and "rustic" don't need
to go together. There would be zero reason to use biscuits and glue just
them.

and notch the
respective corners of the horizontals so they meet the edges of the
uprights.

You've lost me there. What is the point of "notching the corners"? What
corners are you referring too?

You would have two verticals, each with a deep groove. The panel would fit
within the groove,. It looks better IMO to visually "stop" the groove.
Just like you would do a shelf in a bookcase.

OK, thanks. I think I've got it all, although I'll need to think about your
suggestions. As I mentioned, my daughter wants to see alternating end grain
like this:

http://i.imgur.com/DQLKFu6.jpg

I think that precludes the use of a vertical groove and leaves me with my
plain white bread sandwich plan.

However, I think that the floating panel can still be incorporated
into the plan. Thanks again.

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 8:16:01 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 3:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

....snip...


S = Side grain of vertical boards
E = End grain of horizontal boards
R = Bed Rail

S S
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SSSRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
SSS
SSS
SSS
SSS




When you sandwich will you allow enough room for the horizontal panel to
expand and contract which climate change?

I will now. :-)

On 8/12/2016 8:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 8:16:01 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/12/2016 3:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

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S = Side grain of vertical boards
E = End grain of horizontal boards
R = Bed Rail

S S
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SES
SSSRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
SSS
SSS
SSS
SSS




When you sandwich will you allow enough room for the horizontal panel to
expand and contract which climate change?

I will now. :-)



;~) Back at'cha!

In article ,
says...

I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!

My gut reaction when there are a lot of parts that have to be aligned
and they are not self aligning is to rig some sort of a jig.

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 1:18:09 PM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
says...

I'm moving along on my bed build and now need to assemble the headboard. I
could really use some confidence building advice.

The bed will be similar to this, but I'm sure that my headboard is being
built differently. I believe that they used solid 4x4's for the uprights
and mortised the horizontal slats into them.

https://img0.etsystatic.com/052/0/90...20270_c0a1.jpg

All of the wood I bought on Craigslist is 1 11/64" thick, therefore I will
be sandwiching the horizontal boards between 2 vertical boards so that the
uprights will essentially be ~3 1/2" x 3 1/2".

https://images.craigslist.org/00D0D_...O_1200x900.jpg

The bottom of the uprights, below the horizontals, will simply be a
sandwich of 3 vertical pieces, similar to how I made the foot board legs.

The other difference is that my horizontal boards are narrower, so I
will need 5, maybe 6, horizontals instead of the 3 that they used.

That is a lot of moving parts for me to keep square during the glue up. My
current plan is to use biscuits to make one big panel out of the
horizontals and then glue the uprights to the front and back of the panel.
I also plan to use 2 screws on each end of the horizontals, from the back
to the front of the uprights. I would then plug the screw holes with
matching wood.

OK, now that I've gotten that plan out of my head and in writing, it
suddenly doesn't sound so hard. :-) In any case, I'm open to suggestions,
words of encouragement, etc. Does anything in my plan sound any alarms?

Thanks!

My gut reaction when there are a lot of parts that have to be aligned
and they are not self aligning is to rig some sort of a jig.

Already thought of that. ;-)

I don't think I'll need much more than 3 fences clamped to my assembly
table. One for a side, one for the bottom and the 3rd for the
other side - not necessarily as an alignment tool but more of a "if this
side doesn't just line up on it's own, then something else is off."