Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry

"Gramps' shop" wrote in message
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Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe.
Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry

Typically lathes are setup and leveled in place to avoid twisting.

Gramps' shop wrote:
Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry

My problem was the opposite--when turning out of balance blanks the
lathe wanted to get mobile on it's own. I bolted it to two 2-by's and
then glued them in place with silicone. I teased my BIL about how
heavy the lathe was. He tried to lift the tailstock end and agreed.

--
GW Ross

Don't worry about avoiding temptation.
As you grow older, it will avoid
you. - Winston Churchill

On 7/29/2016 2:25 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry


see this.. removeable http://imgur.com/a/jXM5l

--
Jeff

That's pretty cool, Jeff, and a shop-built base is a likely alternative if I can't find a commercial product. One question -- does the lathe always rest on the wheels or can you lower it to the floor? If so, what's the mechanism?


see this.. removeable http://imgur.com/a/jXM5l

--
Jeff

On 7/29/2016 5:49 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
That's pretty cool, Jeff, and a shop-built base is a likely alternative if I can't find a commercial product. One question -- does the lathe always rest on the wheels or can you lower it to the floor? If so, what's the mechanism?

I recommend a shop built base. If you are a woodworker, build a nice
cabinet with plenty of drawers to hold tools and what not. To make it
mobile, their are myriad of mobile work bases on the net. Most all shops
need more storage and wasting space under a lathe is usually folly.
I've seen guys use sandbags for weight on empty lathe bases. A cabinet
full of tools is both space efficient and heavy, and beats the hell out
of useless sandbags.

I would put two fixed castors on one end, parallel with the lathe bed,
and one swivel castor on a lift on the other. Here is an example of the
lift I use on my table saw, which is mobile. You only need one, not 4:

https://www.amazon.com/Workbench-Cas.../dp/B005W0UWCY

Here is the cabinet I made for my lathe about 40 years ago. Not mobile,
but it could easily be made mobile, and far better than any commercial
lathe stand I've seen anywhere.

http://jbstein.com/Photos/woodwork/P1030959.jpg
http://jbstein.com/Flick/LatheDCP2_2149a.JPG
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Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
"Gramps' shop" wrote:

Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644
lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

liability issues most likely prevent them from helping

how often do you intend to move it

not often do i see mobile lathes

http://northernwi.craigslist.org/tls/5626818051.html


do any of the top lathe makers offer mobile bases
i would find inspiration there if i wanted a mobile base

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 6:59:00 PM UTC-4, Electric Comet wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
"Gramps' shop" wrote:

Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644
lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

liability issues most likely prevent them from helping

how often do you intend to move it

not often do i see mobile lathes

http://northernwi.craigslist.org/tls/5626818051.html


do any of the top lathe makers offer mobile bases
i would find inspiration there if i wanted a mobile base

I recently picked up an older lathe where the PO mounted an axle and 2 6" wheels at the business end of the base. To move the lathe, pick up the tailstock side and move like a wheelbarrow...In a small shop, it made perfect sense to me

On 7/29/2016 5:49 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
That's pretty cool, Jeff, and a shop-built base is a likely alternative if I can't find a commercial product. One question -- does the lathe always rest on the wheels or can you lower it to the floor? If so, what's the mechanism?


see this.. removeable http://imgur.com/a/jXM5l

--
Jeff


They are made to be removed. The dowel provides the hinge point.
When you want to move it, push them on with your foot, and lock them in
place.

--
Jeff

On 7/29/2016 2:25 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry


Accidently deleted the album on imgur trying to put a small video up
there. It wasn't uploading and I tried to stop it, only to delete the album.
Still can't get the upload up. Will try again at work.
But here's the new link to the album.
http://imgur.com/a/UgFxK

--
Jeff

On 2016-07-29 18:25:29 +0000, Gramps' shop said:

Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644 lathe.
Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry

Since I built my own stand for my Nova DVR I built it to use a mobile
base I found that fit Jet

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not
mobile. I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too
much, so we might scrap it and start over.

On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

On 8/5/2016 11:21 AM, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


The problem is that the lathes are top heavy. And become unstable. With
the setup i have the cg is moved lower since it grabs near the ways.
If the wheels are bottom loaded then the cg is higher.

--
Jeff

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 07:44:00 -0700
Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

mobile. I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves
too much, so we might scrap it and start over.



for inspiration

http://northernwi.craigslist.org/tls/5626818051.html

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

As small as my shop is, I couldn't get by without it.

On 8/1/2016 8:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
On 2016-07-29 18:25:29 +0000, Gramps' shop said:

Looking for a recommendation for a mobile base for my Nova 1644
lathe. Nova wasn't much help.

Thanks,

Larry

Since I built my own stand for my Nova DVR I built it to use a mobile
base I found that fit Jet

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

This is an expensive solution but it might give you ideas:
http://www.lagunatools.com/Deluxe-Wheel-System

Graham

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 11:01:50 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:


I recommend a shop built base. If you are a woodworker, build a nice
cabinet with plenty of drawers to hold tools and what not.

https://www.amazon.com/Workbench-Cas.../dp/B005W0UWCY

Here is the cabinet I made for my lathe about 40 years ago. Not mobile,
but it could easily be made mobile, and far better than any commercial
lathe stand I've seen anywhere.

http://jbstein.com/Photos/woodwork/P1030959.jpg
http://jbstein.com/Flick/LatheDCP2_2149a.JPG

I'm not a turner, but have an old Craftsman lathe, with extension bases for nearly 8' long turnings. I've only tinkered with turning, now and then, doing simple spindles and a few knob-like turnings. I built a long cabinet, so yeah, I'd recommend building a cabinet, also, if practical for you.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/438361...posted-public/

Derby's suggestion of using this mobile base harware looks promising....
http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware
..... build/incorporate a cabinet onto the base.

Sonny

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

As small as my shop is, I couldn't get by without it.

I'll likely get this for my jointer. Thanks for that link.

Sonny

On 8/5/2016 9:08 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

As small as my shop is, I couldn't get by without it.

I'll likely get this for my jointer. Thanks for that link.

Sonny


Just a note about that Rockler build it your self mobile base kit. I
have two of them. They are really good for relatively light weight. I
I have one under my router table, that is good.
I also have one under my floor model drill press, not so good.

The problem is that the wood bends and flexes when under a lot of weight
and the longer the wood beams the more flex you get.
This is not a problem in its stationary state but when the wheel is
engaged to make it mobile the wood flex keeps the rubber feet from
lifting as much as you might think. And I used red oak for the beams.

Just keep in mind that you will likely have to fiddle with it quite a
bit to get the feet positioned so that they work in a stationary
position and lift enough to clear high spots on a less than flat floor
when you want to move the machine.

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 10:00:12 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:

The problem is that the wood bends and flexes when under a lot of weight
and the longer the wood beams the more flex you get.

Hmmm? I wonder if a 1/2 ply would help prevent that flexing.

Just keep in mind that you will likely have to fiddle with it quite a
bit to get the feet positioned so that they work in a stationary
position and lift enough to clear high spots on a less than flat floor
when you want to move the machine.

I have this problem with my table saws on their Delta mobile bases, inside the shop (wooden floor). My jointer is on the concrete garage floor.... more smooth & level, than the shop's floor. Right now, the jointer is on 3/4" ply and I put closet rods underneath, to roll it.

Thanks.
Sonny

On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:00:12 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/5/2016 9:08 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

As small as my shop is, I couldn't get by without it.

I'll likely get this for my jointer. Thanks for that link.

Sonny


Just a note about that Rockler build it your self mobile base kit. I
have two of them. They are really good for relatively light weight. I
I have one under my router table, that is good.
I also have one under my floor model drill press, not so good.

The problem is that the wood bends and flexes when under a lot of weight
and the longer the wood beams the more flex you get.
This is not a problem in its stationary state but when the wheel is
engaged to make it mobile the wood flex keeps the rubber feet from
lifting as much as you might think. And I used red oak for the beams.

Just keep in mind that you will likely have to fiddle with it quite a
bit to get the feet positioned so that they work in a stationary
position and lift enough to clear high spots on a less than flat floor
when you want to move the machine.

I'm surprised to hear that you have had problems.

I used two 3/4" strips of red oak, glued together, to make the beams.
The inside beam-to-beam dimensions are 24" x 28". Using this base for a
1970's vintage Craftsman table saw, I have no problem with flexing or
moving the saw, even on low pile carpet. (Don't ask.)

On 8/6/2016 1:30 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:00:12 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 8/5/2016 9:08 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

As small as my shop is, I couldn't get by without it.

I'll likely get this for my jointer. Thanks for that link.

Sonny


Just a note about that Rockler build it your self mobile base kit. I
have two of them. They are really good for relatively light weight. I
I have one under my router table, that is good.
I also have one under my floor model drill press, not so good.

The problem is that the wood bends and flexes when under a lot of weight
and the longer the wood beams the more flex you get.
This is not a problem in its stationary state but when the wheel is
engaged to make it mobile the wood flex keeps the rubber feet from
lifting as much as you might think. And I used red oak for the beams.

Just keep in mind that you will likely have to fiddle with it quite a
bit to get the feet positioned so that they work in a stationary
position and lift enough to clear high spots on a less than flat floor
when you want to move the machine.

I'm surprised to hear that you have had problems.

I used two 3/4" strips of red oak, glued together, to make the beams.
The inside beam-to-beam dimensions are 24" x 28". Using this base for a
1970's vintage Craftsman table saw, I have no problem with flexing or
moving the saw, even on low pile carpet. (Don't ask.)




Well actually a Craftsman contractors saw, even with the cast iron top,
is relatively light weight compared to my DP and or a decent sized
jointer. The heavy part of my old Craftsman was the cast iron top and
the foot print was relatively small. My DP probably weighs 300 lbs with
its cast iron base and belt housing and long steel column.

So I am sure it works fine for you just like my router table cabinet
with loaded drawers.

On 8/5/2016 1:36 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 11:21:44 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.

My table saw sits on this, which is basically what you described:

http://www.rockler.com/power-tool-mobile-base-hardware

Yes, but you don't need all that stuff if building your own cabinet. My
wife bought me that same set for xmas once, I think it was Delta though.
I never used anything but the lift mechanism, which was nice. I still
have the rest of it in a box somewhere. I built a cabinet for my TS
and jointer, and used the lift there. Nothing moves, in fact, I could
leave the lift up and it still is stable unless your lean on it hard.
The jointer fence doubles as an outboard support for the left side of
the TS. Lots of advantages to building your own bases.

http://jbstein.com/Photos/woodwork/P1050225.jpg


--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

On 8/5/2016 1:03 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 8/5/2016 11:21 AM, Jack wrote:
On 8/1/2016 10:44 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

Now the issue with mobile bases is keeping them stable, when not mobile.
I made one for our Jet 1220, but the DW complains it moves too much, so
we might scrap it and start over.

If you have two legs with stationary wheels, and on the opposite end a
lift wheel, the lathe should be stationary when the lift is down, and
sitting on two legs and two stationary wheels that move perpendicular to
the rotation. I have exactly this setup on my table saw/jointer stand
and it does not move. The stand for the lathe should be sturdy and
heavy. I recommend building a nice cabinet with drawers to hold a bunch
of tools. I recommend this for all your stationary tools, mobile or not.


The problem is that the lathes are top heavy. And become unstable. With
the setup i have the cg is moved lower since it grabs near the ways.
If the wheels are bottom loaded then the cg is higher.

Small lathes like this are not so top heavy. Particularly if you have a
cabinet with drawers full of tools under it. I reckon if you are
turning something huge on the out board end, but even then, a heavy
cabinet full of tools is a good way to go. If that's not enough, then
you need to bolt it to the floor rather than make it mobile.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com