Electric Comet wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:28:58 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

These legs are extremely strong. They seems to be carbon fiber or
some other composite. Pound away. It's rated for 1500lbs.
they are steel legs
if they were carbon fiber they would not last long after some rough and
tumble use

also not sure how a static load of 1500 pounds is relevant
i think it is just a marketing pitch

i would not want to be anywhere near that when it has 1500 pounds
on it


Or, maybe get some beer and challenge your friends to see how many can
stand on it...

On 11/17/15 12:58 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:28:58 -0600 -MIKE-
wrote:

These legs are extremely strong. They seems to be carbon fiber or
some other composite. Pound away. It's rated for 1500lbs.

they are steel legs if they were carbon fiber they would not last
long after some rough and tumble use

also not sure how a static load of 1500 pounds is relevant i think it
is just a marketing pitch


Can you produce 1500lbs of force with a hammer?


i would not want to be anywhere near that when it has 1500 pounds on
it


They show several videos of guys loading 2500lbs pallets of sand and
other materials on it with no problems.

Yes, these claims are marketing pitch and that doesn't bother me a bit,
because they are true claims and I'm not some moron who thinks they are
actually recommending this product to be used for storing pallets of
concrete blocks.

They are illustrations that are very good at showing how strong these
things are.
But there are still people like you who haven't put your hands on one,
who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
try to discredit it.

Do us all a favor and discover punctuation.


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On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
try to discredit it.

sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you bought

they just seem like over kill to me
with so many pieces it just means more things to break and replace

in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

how are these better

Bill wrote in :


Or, maybe get some beer and challenge your friends to see how many can
stand on it...


Nice legs!

Puckdropper
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Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 11/17/15 1:55 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600 -MIKE-
wrote:

who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity
to try to discredit it.

sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you
bought


False. I just don't like when people throw out negative assumptions
about product when they've never touch it. And even worse, when having
been told their assumption are false by someone who's actually used the
product, they fail to back off.


they just seem like over kill to me with so many pieces it just means
more things to break and replace


False logic. Once again with the ignorant assumption that they are
prone to breaking just because there are more of them. There are more
studs in a longer wall, so what? If you had actually put your hands on
one and inspected it, i wouldn't have an issue because yours would then
be an informed opinion based on a modicum of experience instead of total
conjecture.


in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

how are these better


Well, I already answered that question from you, to you, in this thread.
But I'll repeat: folding steel horses take longer to set-up/tear down,
and require two
hands to carry, have eight points of contact with the ground instead of
only six, they are awkward to carry and load in my van, take up more
room in the van, slide around more and make more noise when doing so,
and a few more things that don't need expressed, because....

You imply that these in some way *need* to be better than folding steel
horses in order to be valid or have value as a tool. More false logic.
Better is certainly a subjective quality, one that comes from personal
preference most often gained by actually *using* something, which you
have not.


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On 11/17/2015 1:55 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
try to discredit it.

sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you bought

Raeille, U thank e's got whorses?





they just seem like over kill to me
with so many pieces it just means more things to break and replace

oer kil? 1st u say flimsy now or'k?



in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

2ne tim axked and anwered. bulkie and unlite wait.


how are these better

2ne tim axked and anwered

On 11/17/2015 11:03 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/17/15 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/16/2015 10:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/16/15 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
4x8
from anywhere else.


Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.

2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.

Exactly. Which is why Karl said 2 of those would be half of the
4x8. :-D



I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL

You Texans all look alike.


Ruggedly handsome. I know. ;~)

On 11/17/2015 12:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/17/2015 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:

I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL

Mom always liked you best ...
LOL


Nope, the oldest is always the faveret. ;~)

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:57:40 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 11/17/2015 1:55 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
try to discredit it.

sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you bought

Raeille, U thank e's got whorses?





they just seem like over kill to me
with so many pieces it just means more things to break and replace

oer kil? 1st u say flimsy now or'k?



in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

2ne tim axked and anwered. bulkie and unlite wait.


how are these better

2ne tim axked and anwered

would you stop with the punctuation already

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:39:26 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

False logic. Once again with the ignorant assumption that they are
prone to breaking just because there are more of them. There are more

no logic involved it is very simple math
more pieces means more chance for something to break


You imply that these in some way *need* to be better than folding
steel horses in order to be valid or have value as a tool. More

no false logic i just like simpler tools because in the long run they
break less and are more reliable


wait until one of those cross pieces bends

now it will not fold and unfold as smoothly and i do not know what will
happen to weight distribution either because the design relies on a
specific shape to hold the engineered weight

one bent cross piece could ruin the whole day

On 11/17/15 8:18 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:39:26 -0600
-MIKE- wrote:

False logic. Once again with the ignorant assumption that they are
prone to breaking just because there are more of them. There are more

no logic involved it is very simple math
more pieces means more chance for something to break


You imply that these in some way *need* to be better than folding
steel horses in order to be valid or have value as a tool. More

no false logic i just like simpler tools because in the long run they
break less and are more reliable


wait until one of those cross pieces bends

now it will not fold and unfold as smoothly and i do not know what will
happen to weight distribution either because the design relies on a
specific shape to hold the engineered weight

one bent cross piece could ruin the whole day


I've grown tired of your nonsense and your continued disregard for basic
written communication skills.


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On 11/16/2015 6:04 PM, Puckdropper wrote:

Those sheet metal collapsable sheet metal saw horses Menards carries are
really a good deal, especially on sale. They last quite nicely and fold up
into a space about 6x6x36. You may want to put a board on top, but they've
drilled holes to make that easy.

My Dad had a set of those 60 years ago. I don't know who made them but
they were light, easy to set up and took up almost no room, perhaps less
room than the centipede. The legs quickly fold up into the head and you
could toss them in the back of a truck.

This centipede looks like it will hold plenty of weight, but doesn't
look like it would take much lateral force w/o wobbling? Looking at a
few videos, I hadn't noticed any of them grabbing an edge and giving it
a good shake. That I would have to see, or do before buying.

Also, it looks like a 4x8 just barely fits along the edges, so any
movement and it would be off the edge. The 2x4 without center legs,
this would be a particularly bad situation.

As far as easy set up and tear down, if it must go in a bag, that would
be a pia if you ask me. I'd rather have some sort of belt to hold it
together so it doesn't spread out when you toss it in the truck.

Myself, I made my own fold up horses that are a little heavy, and bigger
than than the steel fold ups, but the cross piece is just a 2x4, or 2x6
that you can cut through and replace, which is nice. I hang them on the
side of my shed with a french cleat.

http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050406.JPG
http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050408.JPG
http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050410.JPG

These get very little use, and always at home, so size and weight is a
non-issue for me. More important to me is I made them. I like using
stuff I make. If a were toting them around every day making a living, I
think I would get the Minards folding metal ones, but would take a look
at the centipede.
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On 11/16/2015 7:10 PM, Leon wrote:

Almost the same principal as a supports for tents. Those hold up bery
well.

Those legs look a little unstable to me. I would want to grab hold of
the edge and shake it to see if it wobbles before I'd buy one.

what is wrong with fold up steel horses

Weight and size. Remember this is for portability to take to a job
site. Or anywhere you need a quick set up.

We have a set of really, really old fold up metal horses, similar to the
Menard's fold ups, and they are really light, and compact, super
portable, strong and take about 4 seconds to set up and take down. I
say this is a non-issue. The Menard's look like they have carry handles
under the head, which is even better. The Centipede contraption looks
like it must go in the bag to carry around. That sucks. I'd prefer a
belt around it to keep it from spreading all over the place when
carrying it around, or tossing in the truck.

Anyway, I tend to lean towards what the Comet had to say about it.

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On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 12:06:10 PM UTC-6, Jack wrote:

This centipede looks like it will hold plenty of weight, but doesn't
look like it would take much lateral force w/o wobbling? Looking at a
few videos, I hadn't noticed any of them grabbing an edge and giving it
a good shake. That I would have to see, or do before buying.


Fully open, it's very stable. I doubt anyone from HD or Lowes would object to opening one up and give it an in-store test. Have someone open it in the ply department and toss a sheet on top. .... no more inconvenient than having all those lumber carts in the aisles.

As far as easy set up and tear down, if it must go in a bag, that would
be a pia if you ask me. I'd rather have some sort of belt to hold it
together so it doesn't spread out when you toss it in the truck.

It comes with a carry bag.

Sonny