It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk

basilisk wrote:


My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for
it.


Been there, done that. Had a very similar situation at a friend's mobile
home that we tried to help out on. Pulled all of the flooring, pulled the
sub-floor, put in new - stench was still there. It just gets into
everything - the cupboards, the walls, etc. Give it up. Let the fire
department burn it down. You ain't gonna fix this problem.

--

-Mike-

On 8/31/2015 10:43 AM, basilisk wrote:
It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk


You may want to ask on alt.home.repair as I think it has come up there
before.

I can see some benefit to option #1 though. Nice deductible
contribution. Doubt I'd sink 6k into it unless it was a definite payback.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:21:23 -0400, Mike Marlow wrote:

basilisk wrote:


My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for
it.


Been there, done that. Had a very similar situation at a friend's mobile
home that we tried to help out on. Pulled all of the flooring, pulled the
sub-floor, put in new - stench was still there. It just gets into
everything - the cupboards, the walls, etc. Give it up. Let the fire
department burn it down. You ain't gonna fix this problem.

Nothing like the wisdom from past experience, this parallels
my thinking, but was hopeful there might be other possibilities.

basilisk

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:40:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 8/31/2015 10:43 AM, basilisk wrote:
It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk


You may want to ask on alt.home.repair as I think it has come up there
before.

I'll search the archives there and see what turns up.

I can see some benefit to option #1 though. Nice deductible
contribution. Doubt I'd sink 6k into it unless it was a definite payback.

And less were and tear on me.

basilisk

basilisk wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:21:23 -0400, Mike Marlow wrote:

basilisk wrote:


My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating
then new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the
stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with
any possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I
paid for it.


Been there, done that. Had a very similar situation at a friend's
mobile home that we tried to help out on. Pulled all of the
flooring, pulled the sub-floor, put in new - stench was still there.
It just gets into everything - the cupboards, the walls, etc. Give
it up. Let the fire department burn it down. You ain't gonna fix
this problem.

Nothing like the wisdom from past experience, this parallels
my thinking, but was hopeful there might be other possibilities.


What you come to realize when you deal with stuff like this, is that it's
surprising just how many things will absorb those stenches. For pete's
sake - it seems like even cured concrete will absorb them!

--

-Mike-

It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk


There are options but depending on how deep the liquid penetration,
you might be fighting against a waterfall. In order to really assess
the situation you'd have to rip up some flooring and have a look see.

A few years ago I did a similar cleanup job for a friend. Took me 3.5
weeks and cost about 1800. Last 1.5 weeks I was stuck working alone.
Owner decided since he couldn't see or smell or any cat residue, he
was good with it. Stains on the hardwood floor in one room would have
required a floor refinish and a darker stain. He went cheap route and
carpeted over. Not a single potential or final buyer, ever smelled or
suspected a thing. Sold the home in 11 months and that was only
because owner dragged his feet.

Mobile homes are tricky on a few fronts and flooring is one of them. I
know, I live in one. I personally don't consider it an invetment
property as they depreciate over time. That is a personal choice.

If your home is severe and you don't want to deal with it or spend the
cash, I'd first try selling the the home if you really want the
property. There are people right now buying older MHs for removal to
other locations. My neighbor got an offer this year for $15k for his
95(?) single wide to be moved. He paid that for it 4 years ago. He
delclined and is now kicking himself.Depening on age and condition,
there are a lot of people looking to buy older ones to plop on thier
property of choice and remodel.

A couple links that might help...

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/manufac...ing-56033.html

http://www.irocksowhat.com/2013/06/t...novations.html

http://www.psmag.com/books-and-cultu...e-us-all-55137

Google is great for finding this stuff.

Good luck!

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:37:40 -0400, Casper wrote:

It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk


There are options but depending on how deep the liquid penetration,
you might be fighting against a waterfall. In order to really assess
the situation you'd have to rip up some flooring and have a look see.

Advice noted.

A few years ago I did a similar cleanup job for a friend. Took me 3.5
weeks and cost about 1800. Last 1.5 weeks I was stuck working alone.
Owner decided since he couldn't see or smell or any cat residue, he
was good with it. Stains on the hardwood floor in one room would have
required a floor refinish and a darker stain. He went cheap route and
carpeted over. Not a single potential or final buyer, ever smelled or
suspected a thing. Sold the home in 11 months and that was only
because owner dragged his feet.

Mobile homes are tricky on a few fronts and flooring is one of them. I
know, I live in one. I personally don't consider it an invetment
property as they depreciate over time. That is a personal choice.

More of an income property, here, this mobile home if decent and
where it is located will rent for $500 to $600 a month, with not much
investment. I personally don't want to ever be in the rental business
again, I just don't want the bother at this stage of life. If its future
is rental it will be my son doing so.


If your home is severe and you don't want to deal with it or spend the
cash, I'd first try selling the the home if you really want the
property. There are people right now buying older MHs for removal to
other locations. My neighbor got an offer this year for $15k for his
95(?) single wide to be moved. He paid that for it 4 years ago. He
delclined and is now kicking himself.Depening on age and condition,
there are a lot of people looking to buy older ones to plop on thier
property of choice and remodel.

This is a possibility, a few thousand now to me is better than spending 5K
for a distant pay back.

A couple links that might help...

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/manufac...ing-56033.html

http://www.irocksowhat.com/2013/06/t...novations.html

http://www.psmag.com/books-and-cultu...e-us-all-55137

Thanks, I'll look when I have time, my total experience with mobile homes
is that I lived in one for a couple of months long ago and I had a rental
in the 90's, neither of which I ever did any work on.

Google is great for finding this stuff.

Good luck!

basilisk

"basilisk" wrote:

Subject: OT (maybe) Industrial Deoderizer


It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that
possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of
what was
actually in the floor of this thing.
---------------------------------------------------------
The only "Industrial Deodorizer" for this application is a 2,800 F
flame,
and even then it needs to be a controlled burn.

Having the smoke of an open burn drift out over the open country side
just isn't swift.

You need a burner to burn the smoke coming off the soaked flooring as
well
as the main burner.

A paving contractor supplier will have propane burner, hose, tank and
valve
for sale as a packaged item. $75/unit should cover it.

Lew

Burn Baby Burn

"basilisk" wrote in message
...

It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly the
group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what was
actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only real
interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and moved,
time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of a trailer
with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the ground
and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the sanest, most
trouble free option. May or may not maximize my investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned and
deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the hope that
it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me doing all the
work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in this, however if
the stench comes back I will have thrown that money away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can probably
make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give this to one
of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something like
this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for it.

basilisk

basilisk wrote in
:

It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly
the group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what
was actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-
a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only
real interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and
moved, time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of
a trailer with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the
ground and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the
sanest, most trouble free option. May or may not maximize my
investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned
and deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the
hope that it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me
doing all the work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in
this, however if the stench comes back I will have thrown that money
away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can
probably make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give
this to one of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for
it.

basilisk


I think the only thing that will purify the building is intense solar
radiation. You need to attach rocket thrusters or something to it and
launch it in to the sun!

Don't worry, it'll burn up long before it bothers the sun. So while the
sun brightly illuminates the building and begins to incinerate it, we'll
find that the sun's increasing brightness marks the sunset of the
trailer's existance.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 8/31/2015 9:35 PM, Puckdropper wrote:

[snip]

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for
it.


I feel your pain and your tale of woe emphasizes why I love cats... dead
ones!

How about a call to Servicemaster or one of those outfits. I'd play
dumb - it's not that hard - and tell them that all your friends say
you're crazy and should burn it down. Let them throw a sales pitch on
you, get a price and try to get them to hint and just how they'll do it
and then...

Or, you may be surprised that they DO have a sure fire solution that is
not too costly and you can pay them to do it, sit there with a guarantee
in hand, and go your rental property route.


basilisk


I think the only thing that will purify the building is intense solar
radiation. You need to attach rocket thrusters or something to it and
launch it in to the sun!

Don't worry, it'll burn up long before it bothers the sun. So while the
sun brightly illuminates the building and begins to incinerate it, we'll
find that the sun's increasing brightness marks the sunset of the
trailer's existance.

Puckdropper

Use your head, Puckdropper. All they have to do is time the landing for
night!

On 01 Sep 2015 02:35:00 GMT, Puckdropper wrote:

basilisk wrote in
:

It has been awhile since I posted, but I have a question that possibly
the group has some experience with.

I find my self in possession of a mobile home that belonged to a cat
hoarder, let your imagination run wild and it will fall short of what
was actually in the floor of this thing.

The incident that lead up to my ownership made national news.
If interested you can go here
"http://www.fox10tv.com/story/29130929/neighbors-call-bibb-co-property-
a-dog-graveyard"

I bought the place prior to any of this coming to light and my only
real interest was the lot, the mobile home was supposed to be sold and
moved, time ran out on this happening and now I am the proud owner of
a trailer with the floors covered in what cats do best.

Options include:

1. Giving the local fire department a donation to burn it to the
ground and having scrappers get the remains. This is most likely the
sanest, most trouble free option. May or may not maximize my
investment.

2. I have no reason to be in a hurry so why not try to have it cleaned
and deoderize it and put new plywood down to seal the floors in the
hope that it will pass muster for a rental property. I think with me
doing all the work (except intial cleanup) I would have around 6K in
this, however if the stench comes back I will have thrown that money
away.

3. Do a tentative cleaning and sale lot, trailer and all, I can
probably make a few thousand doing this, however I had planned to give
this to one of my kids for an investment property.

My main question is does any one know of how to deoderize something
like this?
Maybe some powerful deoderant followed by an elastomeric coating then
new luan subfloor?
Would putting roll vinyl flooring all the way through seal the stench?

I'll entertain any suggestions as there are no real problems with any
possible outcome, the lot itself is easy worth twice what I paid for
it.

basilisk


I think the only thing that will purify the building is intense solar
radiation. You need to attach rocket thrusters or something to it and
launch it in to the sun!

Don't worry, it'll burn up long before it bothers the sun. So while the
sun brightly illuminates the building and begins to incinerate it, we'll
find that the sun's increasing brightness marks the sunset of the
trailer's existance.

Puckdropper

I like it, first 14X80 Mobile home with a payload of cat ****, in space,
now where did I put those surplus saturn engines?

basilsik

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 6:51:32 AM UTC-5, basilisk wrote:

now where did I put those surplus saturn engines?

basilsik

Hadn't you recently built a new shop, to organize all that surplus? We haven't seen (that I recall!) any updated shop pics, either.

It has been awhile since I posted....

You've been away too long. (.... Must have been busy working on/in that new shop!)

Sonny

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Sonny wrote:

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 6:51:32 AM UTC-5, basilisk wrote:

now where did I put those surplus saturn engines?

basilsik

Hadn't you recently built a new shop, to organize all that surplus? We haven't seen (that I recall!) any updated shop pics, either.

It has been awhile since I posted....

You've been away too long. (.... Must have been busy working on/in that new shop!)

Sonny

I wish, I have been sidetracked for some time, but am beginning to get
back in the shop.

It still isn't completed, but structure is complete and it is wired,
the metal working has taken over more than intended and the
woodworking end is not set up yet.

My son is also taken up a good deal of room with a three
wheeler collection, motorcycles and cars that are borderline
antique.(euphemism for "junk").

Maybe I'll get some work done and have something picture worthy before too
long.

basilisk