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Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html

And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

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On 5/19/2015 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html


And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.


I'd be afraid to have a really nice lawn. Water vigilantes may be doing
damage.
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On 5/19/2015 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html


And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.


Clearly California took it's sweet ass time in declaring a drought
emergency. Had it been any other state other than Californication, they
would have had restrictions the first year of the drought, not 4 years
later. Californication...


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Walmart and that little coffee company. Both bottle water
from California.

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Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html


And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

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There has been water restrictions for the last 10 or more years.
We moved out after being under them for a few years. It is just
becoming stronger and more coverage.

Someday the rich will find out about the drought, but none read or
listen to the TV. They party.

Martin

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On 5/19/2015 5:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html



And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.


Clearly California took it's sweet ass time in declaring a drought
emergency. Had it been any other state other than Californication, they
would have had restrictions the first year of the drought, not 4 years
later. Californication...




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On 5/19/2015 3:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html


And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

Then it should really crack you up that the arid states of Utah, Arizona
and Nevada let a single drop of Colorado River water get to California
in the first place.
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On 5/19/2015 4:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html


And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.


Liberal/progressive mindset is to pay their money to support rules
legislated for you, not for them.

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On 5/20/2015 3:09 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/19/2015 3:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html



And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

Then it should really crack you up that the arid states of Utah, Arizona
and Nevada let a single drop of Colorado River water get to California
in the first place.


This is true but then again they are not over populated. Nevada OTOH
could probably put our country in a better energy position if they did
not burn so much resources to keep their glitter lit up.
I watched a one hour special on how much energy LasVegas literally
wastes to light the place up..... Unbelievable. The show was really
about how they need an unbelievable amount of power stations to fulfill
the need. I was left with the impression that LasVegas sucks you to
death in more ways than one.


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This is true but then again they are not over populated. Nevada OTOH
could probably put our country in a better energy position if they did
not burn so much resources to keep their glitter lit up.
I watched a one hour special on how much energy LasVegas literally
wastes to light the place up..... Unbelievable. The show was really
about how they need an unbelievable amount of power stations to
fulfill the need. I was left with the impression that LasVegas
sucks you to death in more ways than one.


Preach it brother! Same with the Disney parks, etc.

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On 5/20/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote:


This is true but then again they are not over populated. Nevada OTOH
could probably put our country in a better energy position if they did
not burn so much resources to keep their glitter lit up.
I watched a one hour special on how much energy LasVegas literally
wastes to light the place up..... Unbelievable. The show was really
about how they need an unbelievable amount of power stations to
fulfill the need. I was left with the impression that LasVegas
sucks you to death in more ways than one.


Preach it brother! Same with the Disney parks, etc.


What about parking lots at closed malls and warehouses? I can see a
couple of security lights, but why keep them all on?

Want to take a cruise? Most ships get 6" to 9" per gallon of oil.

I have read it is difficult for power generators to power up or down
with large swings so it it better to keep some lights on.


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On 5/20/2015 7:32 AM, Leon wrote:
On 5/20/2015 3:09 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/19/2015 3:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html




And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

Then it should really crack you up that the arid states of Utah, Arizona
and Nevada let a single drop of Colorado River water get to California
in the first place.


This is true but then again they are not over populated.

Water puts a limit on population growth. If none of the Colorado River
reached California, Southern Cal wouldn't have become so populated in
the first place.


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On 5/21/2015 3:36 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/20/2015 7:32 AM, Leon wrote:
On 5/20/2015 3:09 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/19/2015 3:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html





And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

Then it should really crack you up that the arid states of Utah, Arizona
and Nevada let a single drop of Colorado River water get to California
in the first place.


This is true but then again they are not over populated.

Water puts a limit on population growth. If none of the Colorado River
reached California, Southern Cal wouldn't have become so populated in
the first place.


But a limitation of water does not limit population growth, look at
California. People are still going to have families, California is
still going to have wild raging fires, and California is still going too
export water.
While I agree with your statement somewhat, California is a prime
example of too many people in one place that are simply making do with
less and less.
I wonder what kind of cancer warning label the water has that they are
exporting.



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On 5/20/2015 4:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/20/2015 11:22 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote:


This is true but then again they are not over populated. Nevada OTOH
could probably put our country in a better energy position if they did
not burn so much resources to keep their glitter lit up.
I watched a one hour special on how much energy LasVegas literally
wastes to light the place up..... Unbelievable. The show was really
about how they need an unbelievable amount of power stations to
fulfill the need. I was left with the impression that LasVegas
sucks you to death in more ways than one.


Preach it brother! Same with the Disney parks, etc.


What about parking lots at closed malls and warehouses? I can see a
couple of security lights, but why keep them all on?


Probably a drop in the bucket compared to Las Vergas. IIRC that little
town needs 6~8 electricity power plants to satisfy their need.





Want to take a cruise? Most ships get 6" to 9" per gallon of oil.

I have read it is difficult for power generators to power up or down
with large swings so it it better to keep some lights on.


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On 5/20/2015 7:32 AM, Leon wrote:
On 5/20/2015 3:09 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 5/19/2015 3:21 PM, Leon wrote:
Just another reason California is where it is today.

http://news.yahoo.com/drought-shamin...154223581.html




And I read yesterday that Walmart gets its bottled water from
California. It just cracks me up that California allows it precious
small water supply leave the state. But then that is what lines the
politician's pockets.

Then it should really crack you up that the arid states of Utah, Arizona
and Nevada let a single drop of Colorado River water get to California
in the first place.


This is true but then again they are not over populated.

Water puts a limit on population growth. If none of the Colorado River
reached California, Southern Cal wouldn't have become so populated in
the first place.


Leaving aside William Mullholland?
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But a limitation of water does not limit population growth, look at
California.


Consider the explosive growth of Las Vegas. Even less water
than California (and in the midst of a much longer drought as
well).

People are still going to have families, California is
still going to have wild raging fires, and California is still going too
export water.


If you're referring to bottled water, it is literally a drop
in the bucket and a political issue, not a water issue.

By far the largest amount of water "exported" from california
is in the form of fruit, nuts[*], vegetables, lettuce and dairy
that feeds most of the rest of the nation during the winter.
[*] Almonds, pistachios, walnuts.


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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:


But a limitation of water does not limit population growth, look at
California.


Consider the explosive growth of Las Vegas. Even less water
than California (and in the midst of a much longer drought as
well).


Exactly and they way they waste much of what they produce to get the
water that they do need at a premium price.




People are still going to have families, California is
still going to have wild raging fires, and California is still going too
export water.


If you're referring to bottled water, it is literally a drop
in the bucket and a political issue, not a water issue.


Yeah. But it does indicate a lack of unified outlook on their
situation. I reminds me of when the GM execs were flying out to testify
some years back and were used make an example of for wasteful spending.



By far the largest amount of water "exported" from california
is in the form of fruit, nuts[*], vegetables, lettuce and dairy
that feeds most of the rest of the nation during the winter.

[*] Almonds, pistachios, walnuts.


Probably but also those products require a lot of water for growth.


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Water puts a limit on population growth. If none of the Colorado River
reached California, Southern Cal wouldn't have become so populated in
the first place.


Can you spell Owens Valley? Aqueduct?
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