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Air-hose fittings - which style?
Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me?
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
wrote: I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? Yes. http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68237.html or http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68192.html |
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"Spalted Walt" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? Yes. http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68237.html or http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68192.html I've had problems with the HF brass fittings. They have **** poor tolerances and many of them will not mate with the fittings I have from non-HF sources. I've had no problems with the HF silver colored fittings. Art |
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On 5/18/2013 5:12 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Spalted Walt" wrote in message ... On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? Yes. http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68237.html or http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68192.html I've had problems with the HF brass fittings. They have **** poor tolerances and many of them will not mate with the fittings I have from non-HF sources. I've had no problems with the HF silver colored fittings. Art I have replaced my HF connectors with Home depot connectors cheaper and they seal better. Don't get me wrong the HF are good units for the pieces that fit on the tool, but I found that the HD units are what I needed for a better seal, and cheaper price. -- Jeff |
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woodchucker wrote:
I have replaced my HF connectors with Home depot connectors cheaper and they seal better. Don't get me wrong the HF are good units for the pieces that fit on the tool, but I found that the HD units are what I needed for a better seal, and cheaper price. Hey Jeff - I don't know how much you use your stuff, so I can't speak to your experience. My experience is that I use my air tools a lot - a very lot. I have come to hate those HD connectors. I'll never buy another one there again. -- -Mike- |
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On 5/19/2013 6:52 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
woodchucker wrote: I have replaced my HF connectors with Home depot connectors cheaper and they seal better. Don't get me wrong the HF are good units for the pieces that fit on the tool, but I found that the HD units are what I needed for a better seal, and cheaper price. Hey Jeff - I don't know how much you use your stuff, so I can't speak to your experience. My experience is that I use my air tools a lot - a very lot. I have come to hate those HD connectors. I'll never buy another one there again. I just bought them a couple of months ago. Long ago I had industrial couplers that I got at a machine shop supply. Could not find it where I live here. Nothing matched. I switched over the HF units. They were good. But for some reason the female in my garage always leaked... even replacing them a few times. I wanted the type that are ready to connect rather than pull the sleeve back. I bought about 5 to 7 at HD.. so far so good.. I hate the idea of replacing them again.. My problem is the Milton connector you all talk about doesn't match any of my male connectors. So I would wind up replacing them all, and that's a lot of connectors...I have one Milton that I bought long, long ago. -- Jeff |
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 20:19:22 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? Yes. http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68237.html or http://www.harborfreight.com/air-too...set-68192.html Of the two I'd opt for the brass fittings to avoid corrosion. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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JayPique wrote:
Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP I just take one of my (male) fitting to my home owned auto supply place and try it to see which one it fits. My brother changed to the push in type and likes them. They do have a style number but I can never remember which is which. -- GW Ross Without Time, everything would happen at once. |
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On 5/18/2013 1:53 PM, JayPique wrote:
Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Go with Milton brand fittings. I can't say that I have seen one that was not easier to couple by pulling back the sleeve. One thing to watch for is one with a guard which prevents the fitting from uncoupling if you drag it around a corner. |
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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:15:11 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 5/18/2013 1:53 PM, JayPique wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Go with Milton brand fittings. I can't say that I have seen one that was not easier to couple by pulling back the sleeve. One thing to watch for is one with a guard which prevents the fitting from uncoupling if you drag it around a corner. About 2 yrs ago, I complained about my half dozen couplers leaking like hell, purchased from HF, Lowes, Home Depot... all were cheaply priced, appropriate for their quality. I think it was Leon who recommended Milton couplers, back then. I vote Milton brand. Sonny Sonny |
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Leon wrote:
Go with Milton brand fittings. I can't say that I have seen one that was not easier to couple by pulling back the sleeve. One thing to watch for is one with a guard which prevents the fitting from uncoupling if you drag it around a corner. Echo the Milton fittings. I have some, but not all of mine are Milton. I don't have any with the guard, but I've never had a fitting uncouple dragging an airhose around a corner, so I probably wouldn't look for it myself. I have had the cheaper couplers suddenly uncouple. Imagine spray painting a car and half way through a coat, the damned hose uncouples for no explanable reason! I check every coupling when I make it, with a good tug so it isn't like I don't pay attention to this stuff. Avoid the universal couplers from Home Depot and Lowes, at all cost! Pure junk! They will blow off the coupling with no notice, wear out very quickly, and often give you quite a fight just to make the coupling. For those who have them and like them, God Bless Ya, but one of those will never grace my garage again. -- -Mike- |
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On 5/18/2013 6:13 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: Go with Milton brand fittings. I can't say that I have seen one that was not easier to couple by pulling back the sleeve. One thing to watch for is one with a guard which prevents the fitting from uncoupling if you drag it around a corner. Echo the Milton fittings. I have some, but not all of mine are Milton. I don't have any with the guard, but I've never had a fitting uncouple dragging an airhose around a corner, so I probably wouldn't look for it myself. Not dragging the air hose around a corner, dragging the coupling around a corner. The coupling with a guard simply has a flat washer like attachment at the opening of the fitting. If yu drag the unguarded fitting around a corner it can catch on the slide and pull it back, and uncouple the fitting. The guard, prevents a corner from pushing the slide back. Normally not a tough item to find just something to be aware of if you link more than one hose together. I have had the cheaper couplers suddenly uncouple. Imagine spray painting a car and half way through a coat, the damned hose uncouples for no explanable reason! I check every coupling when I make it, with a good tug so it isn't like I don't pay attention to this stuff. Maybe the slide was unguarded. ;~) Sometimes just dragging an unguarded coupling along the floor will uncouple the fitting. |
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Leon wrote:
On 5/18/2013 6:13 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: I have had the cheaper couplers suddenly uncouple. Imagine spray painting a car and half way through a coat, the damned hose uncouples for no explanable reason! I check every coupling when I make it, with a good tug so it isn't like I don't pay attention to this stuff. Maybe the slide was unguarded. ;~) Sometimes just dragging an unguarded coupling along the floor will uncouple the fitting. Not in this particular case. My hose length from the gun to a point about 5 or 6 feet back, never sees the floor while I'm shooting. Contaminates and all that. It's always either simply suspended by the height of the gun off the floor (the height of what I'm shooting, or it is held up by my free hand or draped over my shoulder. My gun gets uncoupled after every coat, before I put it in the stand, and the hose is draped to keep it off the floor. That's where good couplers come into play - they have to withstand repeated use, and make a solid coupling. -- -Mike- |
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Uncircumcised fittings? |
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP I prefer the ones you simply push together, and only pull back on the colar to uncouple. When you have to change tools a lot, you grow to appreciate this. I hate to have to pull back the colar to simply couple a connection. With a good quality coupler, you should be able to simply push together and go. -- -Mike- |
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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:09:47 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Uncircumcised fittings? snort Nice. Thanks, all, for the replies. I'm headed to check out milton's products now. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Uncircumcised fittings? only you Ed, only you would go there LOL |
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ChairMan wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT), JayPique wrote: I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Uncircumcised fittings? only you Ed, only you would go there Er, no, he's not the only one. I once had the (blonde) wife of a customer ask me: "Say, I just saw the market next door advertising "Kosher" chickens. What makes a chicken kosher anyway?" "It's been circumcised," I replied. "Oh," she said. -------- Question for your doctor: "Say, doc, do you know how to circumcise a whale?" Usual answer: "Er, no, I don't think so..." Actual answer: "Well, you start with four skin divers..." -------- I got a million of 'em, a million of 'em. |
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"JayPique" wrote: Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Back in the days when I was employed in the R&D department of a major manufacturer of these devices, they referred to them as "Quick connect couplings". They held the patent for the quick connect coupling, but also offered the ball lock device to be competitive. The "Ball lock" was developed as a way to get around the quick connect coupling patent. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? --------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds like you prefer the "Ball lock" style coupling. Be aware that there are at least 2 different plug profiles, and they are NOT interchangeable. Take the plug style you like with you when you go shopping. As mentioned, Milton has been around for a long time. Good luck. Lew |
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On 5/18/2013 2:53 PM, JayPique wrote:
Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Really, I just got rid of the type where you have to pull back the sleeve. Just make sure you get the Universal style so you can work both type of connectors.. same price 2 styles. -- Jeff |
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JayPique wrote:
Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Have a look at a lot of air tools and pick the type that the majority come with. |
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F Murtz wrote:
JayPique wrote: Anyone familiar with the proper terminology for NPT fittings for air-hoses? I want to replace some and I want the right style. I don't really like the ones you have to shove the tool into and it automatically locks. I like the ones where you slide back the sleeve to connect as well as disconnect. Does this make any sense to anyone but me? JP Have a look at a lot of air tools and pick the type that the majority come with. Or the type that your neighbor has... -- -Mike- |
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