On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:51 -0500, DanG wrote:

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:41:02 -0400, Bill wrote:

Gramp's shop wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:54:14 PM UTC-5, Zz Yzx wrote:
I'm considering buying a used cabinet TS off Craig's List or whatever.

You say "or whatever", but if you are looking for a cabinet saw (~500
pounds), and don't have a truck with a lift gate, LOCATION counts for a
lot.

An important feature I didn't see in your list is a "quality fence".
Good luck (I'm still in search of a TS myself)! Grizzly G690 is on my
list, but i wouldn't mind seeing a Delta UnisawStop (my term) show up in
the marketplace.

Bill





Aside from the obvious:

Overall condition, fit and finish

Table flatness and condition

Cranks, pulleys, &tc., smooth tilt and blade adjustment

motor and wiring

arbor run-out

bearings



What else should I look for?



Thanks a heap,

-Zz


I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who puts his Unisaw
in the back of his pickup and takes and sets it up on site for finish
work alone. Yes, they're heavy, but do tip upside down without ever
requiring picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable upside
down - no longer top heavy. He does have a short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron top. I have to move mine
the last 100' (garage to basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Not me ... I have indeed moved my Unisaw a few times, but rent a truck
with a TommyLift.


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On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:09:33 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Not me ... I have indeed moved my Unisaw a few times, but rent a truck
with a TommyLift.

Well I guess another senior moment for me, but if you think about it
at a negotiated rate it makes some sense.

Mike M

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:09:33 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:

I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Not me ... I have indeed moved my Unisaw a few times, but rent a truck
with a TommyLift.

I used a 5x8 UHaul trailer and some 1x10 ramps. It was pretty easy to load
and unload by myself. The back of the trailer is less than a foot off the
ground. It was easy to push up the ramps. I can only get a trailer about 10'
from the basement door, and not straight shot (it'll have to turn twice) so
that's going to be a bit more of a challenge.

On 10/21/2012 6:40 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:51 -0500, DanG wrote:

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:41:02 -0400, Bill wrote:

Gramp's shop wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:54:14 PM UTC-5, Zz Yzx wrote:
I'm considering buying a used cabinet TS off Craig's List or whatever.

You say "or whatever", but if you are looking for a cabinet saw (~500
pounds), and don't have a truck with a lift gate, LOCATION counts for a
lot.

An important feature I didn't see in your list is a "quality fence".
Good luck (I'm still in search of a TS myself)! Grizzly G690 is on my
list, but i wouldn't mind seeing a Delta UnisawStop (my term) show up in
the marketplace.

Bill





Aside from the obvious:

Overall condition, fit and finish

Table flatness and condition

Cranks, pulleys, &tc., smooth tilt and blade adjustment

motor and wiring

arbor run-out

bearings



What else should I look for?



Thanks a heap,

-Zz


I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who puts his Unisaw
in the back of his pickup and takes and sets it up on site for finish
work alone. Yes, they're heavy, but do tip upside down without ever
requiring picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable upside
down - no longer top heavy. He does have a short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron top. I have to move mine
the last 100' (garage to basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.



Tipped over flat on an old army blanket is probably a whole lot better
than any other method.
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:45:33 -0500, DanG wrote:

On 10/21/2012 6:40 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:51 -0500, DanG wrote:

On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:41:02 -0400, Bill wrote:

Gramp's shop wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:54:14 PM UTC-5, Zz Yzx wrote:
I'm considering buying a used cabinet TS off Craig's List or whatever.

You say "or whatever", but if you are looking for a cabinet saw (~500
pounds), and don't have a truck with a lift gate, LOCATION counts for a
lot.

An important feature I didn't see in your list is a "quality fence".
Good luck (I'm still in search of a TS myself)! Grizzly G690 is on my
list, but i wouldn't mind seeing a Delta UnisawStop (my term) show up in
the marketplace.

Bill





Aside from the obvious:

Overall condition, fit and finish

Table flatness and condition

Cranks, pulleys, &tc., smooth tilt and blade adjustment

motor and wiring

arbor run-out

bearings



What else should I look for?



Thanks a heap,

-Zz


I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who puts his Unisaw
in the back of his pickup and takes and sets it up on site for finish
work alone. Yes, they're heavy, but do tip upside down without ever
requiring picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable upside
down - no longer top heavy. He does have a short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron top. I have to move mine
the last 100' (garage to basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.



Tipped over flat on an old army blanket is probably a whole lot better
than any other method.

That's not going to work. Bumpy yard with a decent hill (down,
fortunately). I'll rent a U-Haul to get it to the back door. With
some judicious use of 2x10s it should go on its own wheels. I may
have to use some plywood sheets to get it to go over the carpeting
(dumb idea in a basement).

On Oct 21, 6:40*pm, "
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:51 -0500, DanG wrote:
On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:41:02 -0400, Bill wrote:

Gramp's shop wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:54:14 PM UTC-5, Zz Yzx wrote:
I'm considering buying a used cabinet TS off Craig's List or whatever.

You say "or whatever", but if you are looking for a cabinet saw (~500
pounds), and don't have a truck with a lift gate, LOCATION counts for a
lot.

An important feature I didn't see in your list is a "quality fence".
Good luck (I'm still in search of a TS myself)! *Grizzly G690 is on my
list, but i wouldn't mind seeing a Delta UnisawStop (my term) show up in
the marketplace.

Bill

Aside from the obvious:

* *Overall condition, fit and finish

* *Table flatness and condition

* *Cranks, pulleys, &tc., smooth tilt and blade adjustment

* *motor and wiring

* *arbor run-out

* *bearings

What else should I look for?

Thanks a heap,

-Zz

I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. *He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who puts his Unisaw
in the back of his pickup and takes and sets it up on site for finish
work alone. *Yes, they're heavy, but do tip upside down without ever
requiring *picking up the whole thing. *They are much more stable upside
down - no longer top heavy. *He does have a short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron top. *I have to move mine
the last 100' (garage to basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. *I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.

Break the saw down. Smaller pieces are easier to handle without
damage. Wings and table are probably going to need to be
reset, anyway.

....
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


....

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

Personally, I'd just put a heavy blanket down, turn the saw over, and set it
on the blanket upside down. A furniture blanket would be best, but anything
for padding shoulc work. Otherwise, load it uprght and simply tie it in
place properly and voilA! No problem.
If you do turn a saw upside down, clean out the sawdust and be sure any
motor mounts won't twist or otherwise be damaged from the vibrations. If the
motor is external, it's best to simply remove it and carry it separated from
the TS.

HTH,

Twayne`

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:01:36 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
wrote:

On Oct 21, 6:40*pm, "
wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:33:51 -0500, DanG wrote:
On 10/17/2012 6:54 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:41:02 -0400, Bill wrote:

Gramp's shop wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:54:14 PM UTC-5, Zz Yzx wrote:
I'm considering buying a used cabinet TS off Craig's List or whatever.

You say "or whatever", but if you are looking for a cabinet saw (~500
pounds), and don't have a truck with a lift gate, LOCATION counts for a
lot.

An important feature I didn't see in your list is a "quality fence".
Good luck (I'm still in search of a TS myself)! *Grizzly G690 is on my
list, but i wouldn't mind seeing a Delta UnisawStop (my term) show up in
the marketplace.

Bill

Aside from the obvious:

* *Overall condition, fit and finish

* *Table flatness and condition

* *Cranks, pulleys, &tc., smooth tilt and blade adjustment

* *motor and wiring

* *arbor run-out

* *bearings

What else should I look for?

Thanks a heap,

-Zz

I'm pretty sure it was Swingman but he had the best idea I've seen if
you have no alternatives. *He hired a flatbed tow truck it went very
well.

Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who puts his Unisaw
in the back of his pickup and takes and sets it up on site for finish
work alone. *Yes, they're heavy, but do tip upside down without ever
requiring *picking up the whole thing. *They are much more stable upside
down - no longer top heavy. *He does have a short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron top. *I have to move mine
the last 100' (garage to basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. *I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.

Break the saw down. Smaller pieces are easier to handle without
damage. Wings and table are probably going to need to be
reset, anyway.

Wings will have to be reset, as will the miter slot but breaking it
down into more easily manageable pieces is a *lot* of work. I got it
the first 70 miles in one piece (sans rails and side table), I think I
can get it the last 100'. I should have done it the first time but I
didn't know if I could get the U-Haul around back of the house (I can,
easily, and have several times since).

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:20:08 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:


...
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


...

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

Warp. You've never seen a TS with a cast iron top? I only know of a
few with granite tops and some cheap ones with steel tops. ????


Personally, I'd just put a heavy blanket down, turn the saw over, and set it
on the blanket upside down. A furniture blanket would be best, but anything
for padding shoulc work. Otherwise, load it uprght and simply tie it in
place properly and voilA! No problem.

What's the purpose of the blanket? It's not going over the ground
that way!

If you do turn a saw upside down, clean out the sawdust and be sure any
motor mounts won't twist or otherwise be damaged from the vibrations. If the
motor is external, it's best to simply remove it and carry it separated from
the TS.

It's a Unisaw. Nothing hanging outside but the bottom has wheels. ;-)

On 11/6/2012 7:20 PM, Twayne wrote:
What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

It use to be the way a good table saw was made. My 10" Craftsman from
about 1969 has a cast iron top. As my father had a similar model
Craftsman I know it had a cast iron top and it was from the early 1950's

Both saws are running great. My brother has my father's but I know the
one I have the top looks nearly new, though it takes a lot of elbow
grease to keep it looking that way.

On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:31:12 -0500, z wrote:

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:20:08 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:


...
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


...

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

Warp. You've never seen a TS with a cast iron top? I only know of a
few with granite tops and some cheap ones with steel tops. ????


Personally, I'd just put a heavy blanket down, turn the saw over, and set it
on the blanket upside down. A furniture blanket would be best, but anything
for padding shoulc work. Otherwise, load it uprght and simply tie it in
place properly and voilA! No problem.

What's the purpose of the blanket? It's not going over the ground
that way!

If you do turn a saw upside down, clean out the sawdust and be sure any
motor mounts won't twist or otherwise be damaged from the vibrations. If the
motor is external, it's best to simply remove it and carry it separated from
the TS.

It's a Unisaw. Nothing hanging outside but the bottom has wheels. ;-)

Tugging at the hook.

Mike M

On 11/6/2012 6:20 PM, Twayne wrote:
...
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


...

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

As common as it gets.

Have you seen a 4 door car?

On 11/6/2012 7:31 PM, z wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:20:08 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:


...
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


...

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

Warp. You've never seen a TS with a cast iron top? I only know of a
few with granite tops and some cheap ones with steel tops. ????

I think cast iron and aluminum are the most common, not sure I have seen
one with a steel top though.






Personally, I'd just put a heavy blanket down, turn the saw over, and set it
on the blanket upside down. A furniture blanket would be best, but anything
for padding shoulc work. Otherwise, load it uprght and simply tie it in
place properly and voilA! No problem.

What's the purpose of the blanket? It's not going over the ground
that way!

If you do turn a saw upside down, clean out the sawdust and be sure any
motor mounts won't twist or otherwise be damaged from the vibrations. If the
motor is external, it's best to simply remove it and carry it separated from
the TS.

It's a Unisaw. Nothing hanging outside but the bottom has wheels. ;-)

Yeah, you don't want to turn that upside down. Better to probably
remove the motor or reattach the motor shipping brackets it should have
come with.

that said, Swingman and I have transported our cabinet saws on mobile
bases to different locations via lift gate truck. We have it down to an
art.

Leon wrote:


As common as it gets.

Have you seen a 4 door car?

4 doors??? No way! What will they think of next?

--

-Mike-

On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:17:42 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 11/6/2012 7:31 PM, z wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:20:08 -0500, "Twayne"
wrote:


...
Have a good friend - he is younger and a big fella, who
puts his Unisaw in the back of his pickup and takes and
sets it up on site for finish work alone. Yes, they're
heavy, but do tip upside down without ever requiring
picking up the whole thing. They are much more stable
upside down - no longer top heavy. He does have a
short Biesmeyer on it.

I'd think that would be *very* hard on the cast iron
top. I have to move mine the last 100' (garage to
basement) in our move from AL to GA, soon. I've been
told by everyone to be careful of the top.


...

What do you mean by hard on a cast iron top? Breakage? Scratching? What. I
don't think I've ever seen a TS with a cast iron top - how common are they?

Warp. You've never seen a TS with a cast iron top? I only know of a
few with granite tops and some cheap ones with steel tops. ????

I think cast iron and aluminum are the most common, not sure I have seen
one with a steel top though.






Personally, I'd just put a heavy blanket down, turn the saw over, and set it
on the blanket upside down. A furniture blanket would be best, but anything
for padding shoulc work. Otherwise, load it uprght and simply tie it in
place properly and voilA! No problem.

What's the purpose of the blanket? It's not going over the ground
that way!

If you do turn a saw upside down, clean out the sawdust and be sure any
motor mounts won't twist or otherwise be damaged from the vibrations. If the
motor is external, it's best to simply remove it and carry it separated from
the TS.

It's a Unisaw. Nothing hanging outside but the bottom has wheels. ;-)

Yeah, you don't want to turn that upside down. Better to probably
remove the motor or reattach the motor shipping brackets it should have
come with.

that said, Swingman and I have transported our cabinet saws on mobile
bases to different locations via lift gate truck. We have it down to an
art.

It's pretty easy to get into a U-Haul trailer. A little "walking" on
and off ramps works. The back of the trailer is only 8" or so off the
road. The only issue is getting it across the ground, to the back
door. I can't get the trailer closer than about 10' from the door and
it'll have to turn a couple of times. It shouldn't be a real big
deal, though.

Once I figured out that the trailer could get back there easily, I
stopped worrying about it too much. I just haven't had time because
I'm trying to get the other house on the market.

"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:k7e1kv$sb6$1
@dont-email.me:

Leon wrote:


As common as it gets.

Have you seen a 4 door car?

4 doors??? No way! What will they think of next?


Windows!

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Puckdropper wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote in
news:k7e1kv$sb6$1 @dont-email.me:

Leon wrote:


As common as it gets.

Have you seen a 4 door car?

4 doors??? No way! What will they think of next?


Windows!

Can"t happen. Glass is too fragile and when it breaks, it is very sharp.
It could hurt somebody...

--

-Mike-

On 07 Nov 2012 22:02:13 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

"Mike Marlow" wrote in news:k7e1kv$sb6$1
:

Leon wrote:


As common as it gets.

Have you seen a 4 door car?

4 doors??? No way! What will they think of next?


Windows!

Big honkin' engines which will take that vehicle so fast, it'll boil
your blood!

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creativity, or our glorious uniqueness.
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