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When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to:
a. Keep the starting hole clean? and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? Different type of drill? Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? Tape? Sandwiching boards? Thanks. I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve |
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On 6/22/2012 1:31 PM, Steve B wrote:
When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? brad point drill bit and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. use another piece of wood as a backer. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? Different type of drill? Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? Tape? Sandwiching boards? Thanks. I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:31:15 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? Sharp bit. For wood, use a brad point bit. and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. Backer board |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:31:15 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? Sharp bit. For wood, use a brad point bit. and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. Backer board Are the brad points those with the smaller center point that is about 1/8" long? Steve |
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Yes and no.
Dewalt sells a pilot point that fits that description. Brad point has a point in the center out from the bit, AND it also has cutters on the outside that are pointed to cut cleanly. Are the brad points those with the smaller center point that is about 1/8" long? Steve |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:02:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:31:15 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? Sharp bit. For wood, use a brad point bit. Yes, brad point or forstner, depending on size. and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. Backer board Ditto, but _clamp_ the board down to it. -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:21:40 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:02:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:31:15 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? Sharp bit. For wood, use a brad point bit. Yes, brad point or forstner, depending on size. and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. Backer board Ditto, but _clamp_ the board down to it. Will it fit in a drill press? Can you get a good square start otherwise if not? Run a SMALL pilot hole through the center. Drill in from the back side with your choice of brad point or forstner, then turn over and finish the hole from the top ( or vise versa). |
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On 6/22/2012 3:31 PM, Steve B wrote:
When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? Different type of drill? Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? Tape? Sandwiching boards? Thanks. I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve FWIW, "Festool like", Tear out on the exit side of a hole is most always a problem if you don't use a backer board to support the wood that is being pushed out as the point exits. Fr the cleanest starting holes, Forstner bits and or Brad Point bits do a good job compared to the typical twist drill bit. Now if you want the best and easiest to deal with use what I link to below. I have several of these bits in the sizes I use. They keep their edge for a long time and produce extremely clean entry holes. I am working on a set of book cases for a customer and needed to drill a dozen 3/8" holes through 3/4" thick oak veneer plywood. I drilled the holes with my cordless and the Colt bits linked below. I used no backer board on the exit side and the bit exited on the visible side of the panel. Basically the exit hole had to be perfect. The holes were absolutely clean with no tear out on the exit side. Keep in mind that Colt makes a variety of named drill bits. What you are looking for is the name to have "5 STAR". Horst Miebach "Colt 5 Star" Brad-Point Wood Bits (Made in Germany) If the name does not have "5 STAR" you may not get the best results. A video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc Find them here, http://www.infinitytools.com/COLT-7-...tinfo/101-170/ or http://thebestthings.com/newtools/mi...drill_bits.htm or http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/st...n_bi ts?Args= |
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On 6/22/2012 7:23 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article , chaniarts wrote: b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. use another piece of wood as a backer. Here's a trick I use sometimes: If I'm using a spade bit, I drill until the tip of the bit just comes through the wood. This effectively creates a pilot hole on the other side. Then I flip the wood over and start drilling from the other side. The new hole meets the old hole partway through. You get a slightly rough ring where the two holes meet, but if there's going to be something filling the hole, you'll never see it. This is what I do, but usually with either brad point or forstner bits. I'll set the stop on the drill press so the center point of the bit *just* comes through the board (but not the rest of the cutter, obviously), then flip the board over and use that pilot hole as the starting point for completing the cut. Works great. -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:03:44 -0700, Steve B wrote:
Are the brad points those with the smaller center point that is about 1/8" long? Steve, here's a pictu http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/to...ers-Bits/Bits- Woodworking/woodboring-drill-bits-irwin-49616 -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote Steve, here's a pictu http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/to...ers-Bits/Bits- Woodworking/woodboring-drill-bits-irwin-49616 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have seen those a lot, but being a metal worker mainly, did not find them very useful for metal. Looks like a reason to visit the old tool department next time I go to the store. I would imagine that drilling wood, I could get by with a set of cheap DeWalt or comparable. (?) Or do I need to pay for good ones? Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in
: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? Different type of drill? Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? Tape? Sandwiching boards? Thanks. I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve Sometimes it helps to reduce forward pressure to almost nothing as you're about to break through. That way, the bit has to cut its way through the little bit of remaining wood instead of pushing it out of the way. Drilling from both ends works better (but isn't always practical.) Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:59:18 -0700, Steve B wrote:
Looks like a reason to visit the old tool department next time I go to the store. I would imagine that drilling wood, I could get by with a set of cheap DeWalt or comparable. (?) Or do I need to pay for good ones? What I did was to buy a very good 6 piece set of the most common sizes. Then I went to HF or the equivalent and bought a cheap 25 piece set. I use the cheapies most of the time, but the good ones get used on the critical stuff. Or, just buy the cheap set and get good ones one at a time as you need them. I can definitely tell a difference in quality of cut, but a lot of times you don't need the high quality -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:59:18 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Larry Blanchard" wrote Steve, here's a pictu http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/to...ers-Bits/Bits- Woodworking/woodboring-drill-bits-irwin-49616 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have seen those a lot, but being a metal worker mainly, did not find them very useful for metal. Looks like a reason to visit the old tool department next time I go to the store. I would imagine that drilling wood, I could get by with a set of cheap DeWalt or comparable. (?) Or do I need to pay for good ones? Steve For one or two holes buy the cheap ones - mabee. If you want them to be good for the next job too, it may be worth buying decent bits. |
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I have an old set of brad point bits I got from Woodcraft a long time
ago, and those really cut nice and clean. On my recent "garage cabinet" project I was drilling holes for shelf pins and discovered I had broken off one of the outside points somehow and it wasn't cutting as clean. So, I ran around to all the hardware and home improvement stores I could find, and the only brad point bit available was an Irwin. I hated that bit as it plugged up the flutes and had to stop to clean it out twice for each hole. I threw it in the trash. Avoid the Irwin! I got a Colt Five Star bit from Woodcraft and that works very well. John S. On 06/23/2012 12:59 PM, Steve B wrote: "Larry wrote Steve, here's a pictu http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/to...ers-Bits/Bits- Woodworking/woodboring-drill-bits-irwin-49616 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have seen those a lot, but being a metal worker mainly, did not find them very useful for metal. Looks like a reason to visit the old tool department next time I go to the store. I would imagine that drilling wood, I could get by with a set of cheap DeWalt or comparable. (?) Or do I need to pay for good ones? Steve |
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On Jun 22, 4:31*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. *Keep the starting hole clean? and b. *Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? *Different type of drill? *Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? *Tape? *Sandwiching boards? Thanks. *I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve Spur point bit, cone-tipped bits are for metal. Backer board to also keep your bench / drill press table from getting chewed up. Higher drill speed (or slower feed) makes the bit take out thinner chips and thus leave a smoother cut. If you're not finishing the wood or gluing in a dowel, paraffin helps the bit cut smoother and cooler. |
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"Father Haskell" wrote in message ... On Jun 22, 4:31 pm, "Steve B" wrote: When I drill through a piece of wood, what are the things I can do to: a. Keep the starting hole clean? and b. Keep the exit hole clean, and free of splintering. I know this will have something to do with the type of wood, but there has to be other ways. Fast speeds on the drill? Different type of drill? Very sharp drill? Different angle of grind on drill bit? Tape? Sandwiching boards? Thanks. I know this is a basic question, but we all start in the first grade. Steve Spur point bit, cone-tipped bits are for metal. Backer board to also keep your bench / drill press table from getting chewed up. Higher drill speed (or slower feed) makes the bit take out thinner chips and thus leave a smoother cut. If you're not finishing the wood or gluing in a dowel, paraffin helps the bit cut smoother and cooler. ================================================== =========================== Drill just so the point breaks through. Flip it over and use the center hole to guide the bit. |
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