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On Sat, 19 May 2012 12:18:22 -0400, Dave wrote:

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from the subject line, I thought you were touting Viagra.

Certainly hope that some of this wood makes it over this way. It would
be a shame for all that wood to rot. Without a plan that's what will
happen.

I have never seen something like this, why are they watering the logs.
To prevent checking?
Another reason?



On 5/19/2012 2:40 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2012 12:18:22 -0400, wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/5909847/you-have-...ur-entire-life

from the subject line, I thought you were touting Viagra.

On 5/19/2012 2:01 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Certainly hope that some of this wood makes it over this way. It would
be a shame for all that wood to rot. Without a plan that's what will
happen.

I have never seen something like this, why are they watering the logs.
To prevent checking?
Another reason?

Preservation of the wood quality (discoloration) during storage is the
primary reason, particularly with regard to fungal growth, which starts
quickly in warmer weather unless the sawn logs are kept wet, and above a
certain moisture content in storage, while awaiting milling.

Back in the old days logs were kept in "log ponds" for the reasons
above, but now it is commonly done in large milling operations with
sprinklers to keep the logs stored properly and maintain quality. Also
has a mitigating effect on pests, and of course, fire, which is an ever
present danger.

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On May 19, 11:18*am, Dave wrote:
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Pretty much looks like my shop when I don't clean it up for a while.
Well, except for the water.

I thought the log ponds were just for movement.

I didn't realize that it was to prevent fungal growth.

With millons of cubic feet would they really be able to keep it wet
enough? The size of those piles indicates that is no small task for 1 pile

On 5/19/2012 3:28 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 5/19/2012 2:01 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Certainly hope that some of this wood makes it over this way. It would
be a shame for all that wood to rot. Without a plan that's what will
happen.

I have never seen something like this, why are they watering the logs.
To prevent checking?
Another reason?

Preservation of the wood quality (discoloration) during storage is the
primary reason, particularly with regard to fungal growth, which starts
quickly in warmer weather unless the sawn logs are kept wet, and above a
certain moisture content in storage, while awaiting milling.

Back in the old days logs were kept in "log ponds" for the reasons
above, but now it is commonly done in large milling operations with
sprinklers to keep the logs stored properly and maintain quality. Also
has a mitigating effect on pests, and of course, fire, which is an ever
present danger.

With millons of cubic feet would they really be able to keep it wet
enough? The size of those piles indicates that is no small task for 1 pile


They may have selected the storage areas nearest a stream or lake to
capture the runoff and recycle the water.

Wonder if the locals can purchase logs or lumber at some discount. I
suppose they are stacking the logs as per specie, rather than
randomly. Seems, at least, they can access the downed logs
conveniently. After Mt. St. Helens, I understood many of those downed
logs were inaccessible.

Sonny

On 5/19/2012 5:58 PM, Sonny wrote:
With millons of cubic feet would they really be able to keep it wet
enough? The size of those piles indicates that is no small task for 1 pile


They may have selected the storage areas nearest a stream or lake to
capture the runoff and recycle the water.

Yep, looks like the pond to the back of the piles.

Wonder if the locals can purchase logs or lumber at some discount. I
suppose they are stacking the logs as per specie, rather than
randomly. Seems, at least, they can access the downed logs
conveniently. After Mt. St. Helens, I understood many of those downed
logs were inaccessible.

Sonny

On 5/19/2012 3:48 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

I thought the log ponds were just for movement.

I didn't realize that it was to prevent fungal growth.

With millons of cubic feet would they really be able to keep it wet
enough? The size of those piles indicates that is no small task for 1 pile


I got a VIP tour of a large sawmill operation in Arkansas about ten
years ago and that is the way it was explained to me.

Here, just found these that explain some of it:

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/AGR/IND2...RDAiHTI9U7.148

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/te...twood-logs.pdf

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http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/AGR/IND2...essionid=F7W2L...

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/te...twood-logs.pdf

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And blue stain can develope if freshly sawn lumber is not stickered
properly. One batch of shortleaf pine, I had, developed blue stain
even though I stickered it well. The problem was I didn't spray or
brush off the coating of sawdust remaining on the lumber and the blue
stain developed under the sawdust. I reasoned the sawdust prevented
proper drying.

After hurricanes, I would often collect certain logs and have them
milled. I would hose (water) the stickered boards for the first few
weeks of stickering. After those first few weeks, I allowed the air
drying to do what it may.

Sonny

Thanks.

On 5/19/2012 6:45 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 5/19/2012 3:48 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

I thought the log ponds were just for movement.

I didn't realize that it was to prevent fungal growth.

With millons of cubic feet would they really be able to keep it wet
enough? The size of those piles indicates that is no small task for 1
pile


I got a VIP tour of a large sawmill operation in Arkansas about ten
years ago and that is the way it was explained to me.

Here, just found these that explain some of it:

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/AGR/IND2...RDAiHTI9U7.148


http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/te...twood-logs.pdf

What a prototype!
When Hurricanes hit East Texas, the Bio-Mass electric plants sprouted
all about. There is enough wood down to have constant fires for 5 years
if burning in the field. With the flack of smoke like that - the plants
were authorized and are running. The forest fires feed them also.
The scorched or burnt trees are not good wood pulp for paper or for
making planks. Splits and hard resin make it unrealistic to mill.

Massive grinder machines chew up logs and stumps dumping out chips.
Chips are burned in the Bio-Mass power plants.

Thanks - we often don't see stuff like that elsewhere in the world.

Martin

On 5/19/2012 11:18 AM, Dave wrote:
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