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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?

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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


I've had the same luck. Some seemed to have chipped with only rare
use or contact.
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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


I've had the same luck. Some seemed to have chipped with only rare
use or contact.
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It would seem that the chrome doesn't stick to well to the magnets. I have
seen the same thing. It appears that they plate the magnets directly.
Usually, a part is copper plated first before chroming. Copper seems to
stick well to most things but chrome does not. Chrome does stick to copper
very well though. It's likely just a cost cutting measure.

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On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.


http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp
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Thanks, Have you used the rubber units?
I hadn't seen them before. For some items that makes sense.
For others not sure. I think I like the chrome look.

But for shop stuff the rubber will solve the problem. Nice the fact that
they become less prone to slide.

On 3/24/2012 9:20 PM, Leon wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.


http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp



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On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!
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On Mar 24, 9:20 pm, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds pull.
I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.

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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


Yes, no, maybe, absolutely, and I don't have a clue.

Magnets have a lifetime, and can be affected by lots of things.
Temperature, percussion, strong magnetic fields, lots of things.

I just buy them in bulk, and if they are acting up, I order another 100.
I'm sorry, I have not kept track of suppliers and performance, but they're
so cheap, I don't mess with the details.

I have bought some through magnetsource.com, as well as others. All in all,
I'm satisfied with their performance when their previous generation is
considered.

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On Mar 24, 9:20 pm, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle
the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


That baby could probably erase your credit cards from across the
room!!!!!!!!!!!

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On 3/25/2012 10:46 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
Thanks, Have you used the rubber units?
I hadn't seen them before. For some items that makes sense.
For others not sure. I think I like the chrome look.

But for shop stuff the rubber will solve the problem. Nice the fact that
they become less prone to slide.

On 3/24/2012 9:20 PM, Leon wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.


http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


No, I have not tried any of those magnets.


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On Mar 24, 9:20 pm, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!


They do have a load if info and a wide variety, some of those magnets
look lake fleas.
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On Mar 24, 9:20 pm, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle

the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS
guy trying to get it out of his truck!
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I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would
effectively weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT
Imagine the UPS guy trying to get it out of his truck!


Nope. It would all depend on what the affixed object weighed. If the
affixed object weighed 10 pounds, then the realized or perceived weight
would be 10 lbs plus the weight of the magnet.

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On Mar 24, 9:20 pm, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 3/24/2012 2:16 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.


Is it because they are banging the magnet?


Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle
the
polarization?


Is it the quality of the magnets?


There are better built rare earth magnets that will not chip and IIRC
they do not have a thin chrome coating.

Apparently an indestructible plastic coating protects these magnets.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=164

And their other stuff.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp


Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


That baby could probably erase your credit cards from across the
room!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you got it stuck to something, I have no idea how you would get off.

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If you got it stuck to something, I have no idea how you would get
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Slide it off...

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Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!


Note that the "Smaller" ones (i.e. 3/4" X 1/8") from Woodcraft or Lee
Valley are only sold in stacks of 5 or 10, because it takes too much
labor to break them down into small er stacks.

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Wowsers!! What a wealth of tinker/prototype/jig solutions..Thankee
muchly for that link there, Leon!


Note that the "Smaller" ones (i.e. 3/4" X 1/8") from Woodcraft or Lee
Valley are only sold in stacks of 5 or 10, because it takes too much
labor to break them down into small er stacks.

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Zz,
How do they get the plating in between the magnets in a stack of 5 or 10?
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS guy
trying to get it out of his truck!


Good thing auto bumper are plastic these days ...

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On 3/25/2012 9:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
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I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would
effectively weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT
Imagine the UPS guy trying to get it out of his truck!


Nope. It would all depend on what the affixed object weighed. If the
affixed object weighed 10 pounds, then the realized or perceived weight
would be 10 lbs plus the weight of the magnet.


Nope, not what I said, I said nothing about affixed. I said if the
magnet is attached to a "fixed" object. Read that as an object that is
attached to something that will not allow it to move. The fixed object
could be 2 lbs but if bolted/fixed to a 10 ton block of cement.... ;~)
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS guy
trying to get it out of his truck!


Good thing auto bumper are plastic these days ...


Yeah and most likely most of the UPS cab is aluminum. But think of all
the crap in the other packages that would be stuck to the magnet.


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I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS guy
trying to get it out of his truck!


Good thing auto bumper are plastic these days ...


You're right. I can envision even a minor fender bender causing a car
and the UPS truck to get stuck together because he was delivering high
powered magnets.
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:38:10 -0500, wrote:
I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS guy
trying to get it out of his truck!


Good thing auto bumper are plastic these days ...


You're right. I can envision even a minor fender bender causing a car
and the UPS truck to get stuck together because he was delivering high
powered magnets.


Hey ... with the obvious advancing state of magnetism, it could happen!

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Yeah and most likely most of the UPS cab is aluminum. But think of all
the crap in the other packages that would be stuck to the magnet.


I'm wondering if they'd use some type of "canceling" magnet just for
shipping purposes ~ Something similar to the Lee Valley canceling
magnets.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...,47843&p=56000
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Check out their largest one. 4" diameter x 2" thick. Over 1000 pounds
pull. I don't think I'd feel safe with that one.


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would effectively
weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT Imagine the UPS guy
trying to get it out of his truck!


Good thing auto bumper are plastic these days ...


Yeah and most likely most of the UPS cab is aluminum. But think of all
the crap in the other packages that would be stuck to the magnet.
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Nope, not what I said, I said nothing about affixed. I said if the
magnet is attached to a "fixed" object. Read that as an object that is
attached to something that will not allow it to move. The fixed object
could be 2 lbs but if bolted/fixed to a 10 ton block of cement.... ;~)


I believe that the "pound" rating of pull is the amount of force that it
takes to remove the magnet from another magnet of the same strength. Like
all those "horsepower" ratings ate Sears. The actual amount of weight it
can lift/attract is much smaller. Anyway, I read that from a manufacturer.
It was buried in the small print, of course.

But don't mind me guys. Keep this mad scientist fantasy thing going here.






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Hey ... with the obvious advancing state of magnetism, it could happen!


Even more ridiculous (or likely). A car passing a UPS truck and they
get stuck together.
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:52:00 -0500, wrote:
Hey ... with the obvious advancing state of magnetism, it could happen!


Even more ridiculous (or likely). A car passing a UPS truck and they
get stuck together.


It happens to dogs ...

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Nope, not what I said, I said nothing about affixed. I said if the
magnet is attached to a "fixed" object. Read that as an object that is
attached to something that will not allow it to move. The fixed object
could be 2 lbs but if bolted/fixed to a 10 ton block of cement.... ;~)


I believe that the "pound" rating of pull is the amount of force that it
takes to remove the magnet from another magnet of the same strength. Like
all those "horsepower" ratings ate Sears. The actual amount of weight it
can lift/attract is much smaller. Anyway, I read that from a manufacturer.
It was buried in the small print, of course.

But don't mind me guys. Keep this mad scientist fantasy thing going here.

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These guys tell you on their site how they test them. The rating is for one
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Even more ridiculous (or likely). A car passing a UPS truck and they
get stuck together.


It happens to dogs ...


Now my cat hates you and it's your fault. My cat sits beside me on my
desk as I use the computer. Your dog comment made me laugh so hard
that she shot out of the room like a rocket.
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On 3/26/2012 8:38 AM, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:28:50 -0500, wrote:

Even more ridiculous (or likely). A car passing a UPS truck and they
get stuck together.


It happens to dogs ...


Now my cat hates you and it's your fault. My cat sits beside me on my
desk as I use the computer. Your dog comment made me laugh so hard
that she shot out of the room like a rocket.


LOL Glad I could be of some assistance to someone else this morning.

Since I started typing usenet messages this morning, and in between
same, I've unloaded precisely 337.5 sf of travertine out of the back of
my pickup at a remodel I've got going on about three blocks away from
the house, came back, cooked breakfast and got the two girls away on a
hopefully safe journey to AR ... now, back to check on the tile crew
that was NOT there in time to help me unload my truck.

It's gonna be a multi-tasking week.

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Even more ridiculous (or likely). A car passing a UPS truck and they
get stuck together.


It happens to dogs ...


Now my cat hates you and it's your fault. My cat sits beside me on my
desk as I use the computer. Your dog comment made me laugh so hard
that she shot out of the room like a rocket.
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Earlier this morning, I opened a bag of rolls. Was going to have one for
breakfast. Non resealable bag so I left it on the counter. Was going to put
them in another bag after I ate. I came back and there was one of my cats,
sitting on the floor munching on a roll. She didn't want the roll, she just
wanted to steal it. We have five cats. They're like little kids. Amazing how
much trouble they can get in to.

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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


Is it the fact that the magnets lose their chrome or nickel plating that
bugs you? Or that the magnets are no longer effectively useful?
I use magnets all over the place. Good sources are from stripped magnetrons
from microwaves (quite powerful, ferrous)[1] and stripped out hard drives
(good quality, powerful, rare earth magnets)[2].
I'm generally not too much bothered by the aesthetics.

[1] Your own, neighbours, skips etc. These also yield a bunch of screws and
other bits.
[2] OK, you're the bloke who has never had a HDD fail.

No offence meant or intended,

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I have taken the magnets out of hard drives.

But I am not concerned about the aesthetics of my shop stuff.
But I am about projects. When I sink a magnet as door catch I worry
about when it will look like ****.

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Almost all of the rare earth magnets I have had eventually lose there
chrome or nickel. I have purchased from different vendors.


Is this because the ones I notice it are used to hold tools, and things
like the the drill chuck key.

Is it because they are banging the magnet?

Is it because the magnets are so strong the chrome just can't handle the
polarization?

Is it the quality of the magnets?


Is it the fact that the magnets lose their chrome or nickel plating that
bugs you? Or that the magnets are no longer effectively useful?
I use magnets all over the place. Good sources are from stripped magnetrons
from microwaves (quite powerful, ferrous)[1] and stripped out hard drives
(good quality, powerful, rare earth magnets)[2].
I'm generally not too much bothered by the aesthetics.

[1] Your own, neighbours, skips etc. These also yield a bunch of screws and
other bits.
[2] OK, you're the bloke who has never had a HDD fail.

No offence meant or intended,

Nick.


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Leon wrote:
On 3/25/2012 9:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote:


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would
effectively weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT
Imagine the UPS guy trying to get it out of his truck!


Nope. It would all depend on what the affixed object weighed. If
the affixed object weighed 10 pounds, then the realized or perceived
weight would be 10 lbs plus the weight of the magnet.


Nope, not what I said, I said nothing about affixed. I said if the
magnet is attached to a "fixed" object. Read that as an object that
is attached to something that will not allow it to move. The fixed
object could be 2 lbs but if bolted/fixed to a 10 ton block of
cement.... ;~)


So you did. Sheese... picky, picky, picky...

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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:28:24 -0500, Swingman wrote:
Here's where my canine companion stays when I'm at the computer:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...88834723567906
She is, despite appearances, indeed alive.


That's a dog? Hell Karl, that dog is smaller than my cat. My cat isn't
angry at you any more, she's laughing.


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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:02:50 -0700, "CW" wrote:
sitting on the floor munching on a roll. She didn't want the roll, she just
wanted to steal it. We have five cats. They're like little kids. Amazing how
much trouble they can get in to.


I understand completely. Every time I'm in the kitchen munching on
something, my cat is there mewling up a storm until I give her some.
She never eats what I give her, she just wants some of what I'm
eating. Except of course for carrot muffin. *That* she likes and will
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On 3/26/2012 7:20 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote:
On 3/25/2012 9:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote:


I recon if the magnet is attached to a fixed object it would
effectively weigh 1000 lbs. Probably would not be a hazard. BUT
Imagine the UPS guy trying to get it out of his truck!

Nope. It would all depend on what the affixed object weighed. If
the affixed object weighed 10 pounds, then the realized or perceived
weight would be 10 lbs plus the weight of the magnet.


Nope, not what I said, I said nothing about affixed. I said if the
magnet is attached to a "fixed" object. Read that as an object that
is attached to something that will not allow it to move. The fixed
object could be 2 lbs but if bolted/fixed to a 10 ton block of
cement.... ;~)


So you did. Sheese... picky, picky, picky...



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