For all you cheap *******s that don't get the e-mails:

18V, Cordless
4 Tool Combo Pack
90374-3VGA
$29.99

This stuff has gotta be dangerous!

Kevin
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Kevin Singleton wrote:

For all you cheap *******s that don't get the e-mails:

18V, Cordless
4 Tool Combo Pack
90374-3VGA
$29.99

This stuff has gotta be dangerous!

Kevin

Its useful life is directly proportional to the amount of use it gets.
If you never use it, it will last forever. :-)
mahalo,
jo4hn

....and on this tool they say it themselves..."almost impossible to use" laughs.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=1701

However HF is great for clamps made of iron and steel, super cheap shipping .
I bought 4 1/2" pipe clamps they work great, and 4 24" bar clamps and work
great. In store purchase though.

Alex

"AArDvarK" wrote in message
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...and on this tool they say it themselves..."almost impossible to use"
laughs.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=1701

Err... you might want to read that again
I think it says: "almost impossible to lose"

:-)

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Err... you might want to read that again
I think it says: "almost impossible to lose"


yes I did see that later, sorryyyyyy!
Alex

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:32:09 -0400, "Kevin Singleton"
calmly ranted:

For all you cheap *******s that don't get the e-mails:

18V, Cordless
4 Tool Combo Pack
90374-3VGA
$29.99

This stuff has gotta be dangerous!

g Also note that the package ships with only ONE battery
while the pic shows all 4 units with batteries attached.
Pay attention before you buy!


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Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:32:09 -0400, "Kevin Singleton"
calmly ranted:

For all you cheap *******s that don't get the e-mails:

18V, Cordless
4 Tool Combo Pack
90374-3VGA
$29.99

This stuff has gotta be dangerous!

g Also note that the package ships with only ONE battery
while the pic shows all 4 units with batteries attached.
Pay attention before you buy!


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- Clinton never - * Wondrous Website Design
- EXhaled.- * http://www.diversify.com
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I'd place bets on the price of an extra/replacement battery pack being about
$50-$60

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

"Eugene" wrote in message
...
Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:32:09 -0400, "Kevin Singleton"
calmly ranted:

For all you cheap *******s that don't get the e-mails:

18V, Cordless
4 Tool Combo Pack
90374-3VGA
$29.99

This stuff has gotta be dangerous!

g Also note that the package ships with only ONE battery
while the pic shows all 4 units with batteries attached.
Pay attention before you buy!


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- Clinton never - * Wondrous Website Design
- EXhaled.- * http://www.diversify.com
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I'd place bets on the price of an extra/replacement battery pack being
about
$50-$60

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:13:02 GMT, "AL" wrote:

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

I have one of the cheap HF drills - a 14V. It works and has done
pretty good duty for the last year or so since I dropped my better one
and couldn't swing the scratch to replace it with something decent.
The only real comment I have on it is that the motor is about half the
power of my old 14V drill - not sure why that should be. It also seems
to use the batteries awfully fast. For light duty around the house I
suspect these things would work OK - not great, but OK.

Personally, on a price-performance basis the Ryobi tools at the orange
Borg get my vote. I've used several of them and they seem solid and
work well. Long term may be different, but for the price you can buy 3
sets of Ryobi's before you match the price of the good stuff. I
wouldn't recommend them if they didn't work, but if you close your
eyes you won't tell any difference between the Ryobi and, say, the
DeWalt.

YMMV

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Tim Douglass wrote:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:13:02 GMT, "AL" wrote:

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

I have one of the cheap HF drills - a 14V. It works and has done
pretty good duty for the last year or so since I dropped my better one
and couldn't swing the scratch to replace it with something decent.
The only real comment I have on it is that the motor is about half the
power of my old 14V drill - not sure why that should be. It also seems
to use the batteries awfully fast. For light duty around the house I
suspect these things would work OK - not great, but OK.

Personally, on a price-performance basis the Ryobi tools at the orange
Borg get my vote. I've used several of them and they seem solid and
work well. Long term may be different, but for the price you can buy 3
sets of Ryobi's before you match the price of the good stuff. I
wouldn't recommend them if they didn't work, but if you close your
eyes you won't tell any difference between the Ryobi and, say, the
DeWalt.

YMMV

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com
I still have my first 9.6V Makita drill bought in 1991. Replaced the two
original batteries a couple years ago so I got about 10 years out of them.
I've bought a few more tools that use the same old stick style battery.
I've spent $500-600 on the tools and batteries from 1991 to 2004. So if
you take $600 divided by 13 years, I have spent $46 per year on cordless
tools so if the HF set lasts more than 1 year each we both spent about the
same amount. However I have saved a lot of frustration by having better
quality tools for those 13 years.

"Tim Douglass" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:13:02 GMT, "AL" wrote:

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

I have one of the cheap HF drills - a 14V. It works and has done
pretty good duty for the last year or so since I dropped my better one
and couldn't swing the scratch to replace it with something decent.
The only real comment I have on it is that the motor is about half the
power of my old 14V drill - not sure why that should be.

Voltage is not the only thing that determines the power in the motor.
Remember that you can but 120V AC motors from 1/60HP to at least 2 HP

Norm

Personally, on a price-performance basis the Ryobi tools at the orange
Borg get my vote. I've used several of them and they seem solid and
work well. Long term may be different, but for the price you can buy 3
sets of Ryobi's before you match the price of the good stuff. I
wouldn't recommend them if they didn't work, but if you close your
eyes you won't tell any difference between the Ryobi and, say, the
DeWalt.

I have the 18v Ryobis and like them fine; but my 12v DeWalt is more
powerful.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:52:50 -0700, Tim Douglass wrote:

Personally, on a price-performance basis the Ryobi tools at the orange
Borg get my vote. I've used several of them and they seem solid and
work well. Long term may be different, but for the price you can buy 3
sets of Ryobi's before you match the price of the good stuff. I
wouldn't recommend them if they didn't work, but if you close your
eyes you won't tell any difference between the Ryobi and, say, the
DeWalt.

YMMV

MMDV (my mileage did vary) I bought the 12 volt Ryobi contractors driver
a couple of years ago. The first one twisted off the chuck within a month
of purchase. Sheared it right off. HD replaced it, but now neither
battery will take a charge-- they just sit in the charger and blink red.
So in a burst of "brilliance," I went back to HD and bought the 12 volt
"consumer" driver for 50 bucks, since new batts for the old driver were
$40, and the new driver came with 2 12 volt batts. Imagine my surprise
when I discovered that the new Ryobi 12 volt batts do not fit the old
Ryobi 12 volt driver. Oh well. Might be a while before I buy another
Ryobi tool.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:13:02 GMT, "AL" calmly ranted:

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

I got the $99 Ryobi set and it worked fine for 2 years. Now
both batteries decided to go tits-up. I'm getting 4 minutes
of service apiece from them and they die in 3 days without
any use. Time for alternative sourcing. Anyone use the Ebay
battery people, PowerGears ?



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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:13:02 GMT, "AL" calmly ranted:

A new battery is $10. 90121-0VGA. But I wouldn't recommend anyone buy
this set. Nor would I recommend anyone buy the equivalent set from Delta
(which looks remarkably like this one).

I got the $99 Ryobi set and it worked fine for 2 years. Now
both batteries decided to go tits-up. I'm getting 4 minutes
of service apiece from them and they die in 3 days without
any use. Time for alternative sourcing. Anyone use the Ebay
battery people, PowerGears ?

Batteries Plus usually has good replacements for hand tools.

a.