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On Feb 15, 11:55*am, Swingman wrote:
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If it works as advertised, and there is no reason to think it won't,
that will be one helluva handy go-to tool. Pocket size to boot.

On Feb 15, 12:01*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Feb 15, 11:55*am, Swingman wrote:

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If it works as advertised, and there is no reason to think it won't,
that will be one helluva handy go-to tool. Pocket size to boot.

As per discussion elsewhere in this thread, it could be construed as a
bit gimmicky, but having said that, many things with digital read-out
are gimmicky. Like the days of yore, FM Radio tuners with digital read-
outs were "so much more accurate" than their sliding dial
counterparts!! The read-out had absolutely nothing to do with the
tuning itself, as is the case with so many measuring tools. I bought a
measuring tape with a digital read-out (in a fit of spontaneity) a
Starrett no less, and found myself reading the tape instead of the
digital read-out. I tossed the damned thing when I wanted to replace
the battery and discovered it was a proprietary $20.00 POS. (They, of
course, changed to another battery shortly thereafter.) IMHO,
'digital' doesn't automatically mean 'better'.

But I digress.

(back to the fishing lure analogy... who/what are those lures designed
to catch?)

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:01:17 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
wrote:

On Feb 15, 11:55*am, Swingman wrote:
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If it works as advertised, and there is no reason to think it won't,
that will be one helluva handy go-to tool. Pocket size to boot.

I'm sure they do. I bought one of these and it works great.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,43513&p=64278
It saved me a lot of time in reproducing angles in a porch rail
replacement I did last year. We changed the height to meet regs so I
couldn't just copy the angles there.

(Hey, Swingy! Wanna trade? I like yours better.)

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Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


It can only be as accurate as the sensor at the sliding "arm" (sorry, I
don't know the appropriate term). I momentarily considered this as a
substitute for a magnetic level+bevel, but what I said above makes me
hesitate. Perhaps someone can vouch for the technology being used? The
issue is mainly academic for me, but it's not uninteresting.

Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


It can only be as accurate as the sensor at the sliding "arm" (sorry, I
don't know the appropriate term). I momentarily considered this as a
substitute for a magnetic level+bevel, but what I said above makes me
hesitate. Perhaps someone can vouch for the technology being used? The
issue is mainly academic for me, but it's not uninteresting.

Sorry to reply to my own post: What is given up in accuracy besides the
"arm" is loose enough to slide? Until I here more, it's going to say
in my "gimmick" category. : )

On 2/15/2012 12:12 PM, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


It can only be as accurate as the sensor at the sliding "arm" (sorry, I
don't know the appropriate term). I momentarily considered this as a
substitute for a magnetic level+bevel, but what I said above makes me
hesitate. Perhaps someone can vouch for the technology being used? The
issue is mainly academic for me, but it's not uninteresting.

Sorry to reply to my own post: What is given up in accuracy besides the
"arm" is loose enough to slide? Until I here more, it's going to say in
my "gimmick" category. : )


Yea I looked at that yesterday, and the thing that hit me was the
accuracy of +-.3 degrees, but a resolution of .05 degrees. Seems odd
that the accuracy is so much further off than the resolution. What good
is .05 resolution if you can only have .3 accuracy. If the accuracy were
..1 I would understand.

At that point I questioned it's legitimacy.

I am interested but after having lost my job yesterday, I'll wait for
your opinions.

On 2/15/2012 11:22 AM, tiredofspam wrote:


On 2/15/2012 12:12 PM, Bill wrote:

Sorry to reply to my own post: What is given up in accuracy besides the
"arm" is loose enough to slide? Until I here more, it's going to say in
my "gimmick" category. : )


Yea I looked at that yesterday, and the thing that hit me was the
accuracy of +-.3 degrees, but a resolution of .05 degrees. Seems odd
that the accuracy is so much further off than the resolution. What good
is .05 resolution if you can only have .3 accuracy. If the accuracy were
.1 I would understand.

At that point I questioned it's legitimacy.

As always, that depends entirely upon your use of the "gimmick" (and
probably your imagination).

With a few of the things where I can envision its usefulness, like some
machine setup situations, the fact that you can't set the machine to a
greater accuracy than the accuracy of the instrument itself makes it a
moot point.

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Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 11:22 AM, tiredofspam wrote:


On 2/15/2012 12:12 PM, Bill wrote:

Sorry to reply to my own post: What is given up in accuracy besides the
"arm" is loose enough to slide? Until I here more, it's going to say in
my "gimmick" category. : )


Yea I looked at that yesterday, and the thing that hit me was the
accuracy of +-.3 degrees, but a resolution of .05 degrees. Seems odd
that the accuracy is so much further off than the resolution. What good
is .05 resolution if you can only have .3 accuracy. If the accuracy were
.1 I would understand.

At that point I questioned it's legitimacy.

As always, that depends entirely upon your use of the "gimmick" (and
probably your imagination).

With a few of the things where I can envision its usefulness, like some
machine setup situations, the fact that you can't set the machine to a
greater accuracy than the accuracy of the instrument itself makes it a
moot point.


I'm all in favor a sliding t-bevel. I have found "creative" uses for
mine (like measuring the squareness of the inside of a box". My
curosity was about the added value of the digital guage. My dad, may he
rest in peace, would likely have said "It looks like another gimmick!"
: )

On 2/15/2012 12:22 PM, tiredofspam wrote:

Yea I looked at that yesterday, and the thing that hit me was the
accuracy of +-.3 degrees, but a resolution of .05 degrees. Seems odd
that the accuracy is so much further off than the resolution. What good
is .05 resolution if you can only have .3 accuracy. If the accuracy were
.1 I would understand.

I bought one of those Wixy magnetic angle things and they have an
accuracy of .1 degrees. When I got it, I naturally checked my table
saw, jointer and band saw. All 3 were within .1 degrees of perfect. I
had no idea if the gauge or my fences was off, given they have a .1
degree of accuracy. I then noted that if a breathed hard on a fence it
would change .1 degree, meaning .1 degree is more accurate than anyone
needs for wood work.

At that point I questioned it's legitimacy.

I think it would be useful, and more accurate than my current angle
bevel that I use infrequently. The price is good at 20 bucks and on
Amazon, the same gauge is 30 bucks.

The only draw back I see is it must use batteries for a digital readout.
That means when you go to use it, the batteries will be dead. My Wixy
came with an extra battery, or was it my digital caliber? and I already
replaced the battery once. Must have been the caliber, as I only used
Wixy thing once. Also, every single electronic gimmick uses a different
battery. Must be 200 million different styles of watch batteries, one
for each different device.

On that subject, I bought a solar powered, credit card sized calculator
in the 70's. It is my shop calculator and it has a battery because it
works in no light. I never changed the battery, I don't think you can,
but damn the thing works for going on 40 years.

I am interested but after having lost my job yesterday, I'll wait for
your opinions.

That's my opinion and you only had to wait a few days:-)
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Jack wrote:


I bought one of those Wixy magnetic angle things and they have an
accuracy of .1 degrees. When I got it, I naturally checked my table
saw, jointer and band saw. All 3 were within .1 degrees of perfect. I had
no idea if the gauge or my fences was off, given they have a .1
degree of accuracy. I then noted that if a breathed hard on a fence
it would change .1 degree, meaning .1 degree is more accurate than
anyone needs for wood work.

The only draw back I see is it must use batteries for a digital
readout. That means when you go to use it, the batteries will be
dead. My Wixy came with an extra battery, or was it my digital
caliber? and I already replaced the battery once. Must have been the
caliber, as I only used Wixy thing once. Also, every single
electronic gimmick uses a different battery. Must be 200 million
different styles of watch batteries, one for each different device.

On that subject, I bought a solar powered, credit card sized
calculator in the 70's. It is my shop calculator and it has a
battery because it works in no light. I never changed the battery, I
don't think you can, but damn the thing works for going on 40 years.


Cannot tell you how much I agree! I too have an ancient solar powered
calculator with a backup battery, and it has been working for decades. Some
ideas just seem so logical, but I guess they must not be...

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On 2/15/2012 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

Hey, you're supposed to wait until I get mine ordered and delivered before you
go telling everybody else and their mother about stuff like this.

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On 2/15/2012 11:39 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 2/15/2012 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

Hey, you're supposed to wait until I get mine ordered and delivered
before you go telling everybody else and their mother about stuff like
this.

I can see occasions where it would be real handy, like when setting a
miter saw for non-square corners, among other things, but, even though I
really don't have that much need, the _price_ is what makes it attractive.

AAMOF, the thing I like the best is the knob doesn't get in the way of
laying it flat for measuring ... just that feature in combination with
the digital read-out in a t-bevel is worth the twenty bucks when you
absolutely need it.

for those who just can't help themselves repeating the obvious, yes, I
am well that non-digital versions have that same feature for less cost

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On 2/15/2012 11:51 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 11:39 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 2/15/2012 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

Hey, you're supposed to wait until I get mine ordered and delivered
before you go telling everybody else and their mother about stuff like
this.

I can see occasions where it would be real handy, like when setting a miter saw
for non-square corners, among other things, but, even though I really don't
have that much need, the _price_ is what makes it attractive.

AAMOF, the thing I like the best is the knob doesn't get in the way of laying
it flat for measuring ... just that feature in combination with the digital
read-out in a t-bevel is worth the twenty bucks when you absolutely need it.

for those who just can't help themselves repeating the obvious, yes, I am well
that non-digital versions have that same feature for less cost

It's pretty common for me to need to set my (regular ol') sliding bevel to some
oddball angle, and for years I've been using various protractors or angle
gauges to do it. I recently bought this little gem:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...78&cat=1,43513 to do it
instead, and while it works OK, it's still pretty cumbersome for that purpose
and I think that digital sliding bevel will be just the ticket for me. I put
one on order; we shall see how it works out.

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Well, I guess then its not a bad deal for you.
I have kind of liked the idea of:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...936,50298&ap=2

but have used various protractors to set my angle.
And after just revisiting the page, at almost twice the price, I guess
20 is not so bad a risk.


On 2/15/2012 2:46 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 2/15/2012 11:51 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 11:39 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 2/15/2012 10:55 AM, Swingman wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

Hey, you're supposed to wait until I get mine ordered and delivered
before you go telling everybody else and their mother about stuff like
this.

I can see occasions where it would be real handy, like when setting a
miter saw
for non-square corners, among other things, but, even though I really
don't
have that much need, the _price_ is what makes it attractive.

AAMOF, the thing I like the best is the knob doesn't get in the way of
laying
it flat for measuring ... just that feature in combination with the
digital
read-out in a t-bevel is worth the twenty bucks when you absolutely
need it.

for those who just can't help themselves repeating the obvious, yes,
I am well
that non-digital versions have that same feature for less cost

It's pretty common for me to need to set my (regular ol') sliding bevel
to some oddball angle, and for years I've been using various protractors
or angle gauges to do it. I recently bought this little gem:
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...78&cat=1,43513 to do it
instead, and while it works OK, it's still pretty cumbersome for that
purpose and I think that digital sliding bevel will be just the ticket
for me. I put one on order; we shall see how it works out.

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just use
the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against the saw
plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS, BS, and
router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or crystals/lenses to
break!

John

On Feb 15, 2:52*pm, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message

...



http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just use
the blade... *I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against the saw
plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS, BS, and
router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or crystals/lenses to
break!

John

Always a legitimate question: what sortakinda batteries does this
thing consume and what does one have to pay for those?

On 2/15/2012 2:24 PM, Robatoy wrote:

Always a legitimate question: what sortakinda batteries does this
thing consume and what does one have to pay for those?

It uses the ubiquitous ''CR2032'' battery. I keep a blister pack of a
dozen of that particular battery in the shop has almost every tool that
has a digital readout uses it.

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On 2/21/2012 10:16 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 2:24 PM, Robatoy wrote:

Always a legitimate question: what sortakinda batteries does this
thing consume and what does one have to pay for those?

It uses the ubiquitous ''CR2032'' battery. I keep a blister pack of a
dozen of that particular battery in the shop has almost every tool that
has a digital readout uses it.

I only have two digital readouts in the shop, one uses an L44 and one,
the Wixy uses the cr2032 thing. I think they all should use solar
cells like my $10, 35 year old calculator that runs easily off the shop
lights.



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On 2/22/2012 9:45 AM, Jack wrote:

I think they all should use solar cells
like my $10, 35 year old calculator that runs easily off the shop lights.

My old Aurora D19, which I've had for about 25 years, still works as
long as I bring it can get sunlight. Still my favorite desktop
calculator of all time ... so much so that I built a holder for it out
of scraps some years back:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...06486789300626

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On 2/22/2012 9:45 AM, Jack wrote:
On 2/21/2012 10:16 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 2:24 PM, Robatoy wrote:

Always a legitimate question: what sortakinda batteries does this
thing consume and what does one have to pay for those?

It uses the ubiquitous ''CR2032'' battery. I keep a blister pack of a
dozen of that particular battery in the shop has almost every tool that
has a digital readout uses it.

I only have two digital readouts in the shop, one uses an L44 and one, the Wixy
uses the cr2032 thing. I think they all should use solar cells like my $10, 35
year old calculator that runs easily off the shop lights.

I agree with that one! I have a calculator like that and it just keeps going
and going.

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On 2/15/2012 1:52 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just
use the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against
the saw plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS,
BS, and router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or
crystals/lenses to break!

I was talking about uses that were more along the line of using it to
measure the angle of the corner of room (notoriously un-square),
dividing by two, and setting your miter saw to the results ... anything
that can get you into the ballpark quicker, at $20, will pay for itself
pretty quickly.


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"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/15/2012 1:52 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just
use the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against
the saw plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS,
BS, and router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or
crystals/lenses to break!

I was talking about uses that were more along the line of using it to
measure the angle of the corner of room (notoriously un-square), dividing
by two, and setting your miter saw to the results ... anything that can
get you into the ballpark quicker, at $20, will pay for itself pretty
quickly.

I guess I'm so used to using a protractor and sliding bevel for measuring,
and a shooting board for tweaking joints, that I don't even think about
dealing with non-square corners as a problem... It goes along with the
realization I had while working at Colonial Williamsburg that pretty much
the whole man-made world was built without electricity. ;~)

John

On 2/15/2012 3:06 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/15/2012 1:52 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just
use the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against
the saw plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS,
BS, and router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or
crystals/lenses to break!

I was talking about uses that were more along the line of using it to
measure the angle of the corner of room (notoriously un-square),
dividing by two, and setting your miter saw to the results ...
anything that can get you into the ballpark quicker, at $20, will pay
for itself pretty quickly.

I guess I'm so used to using a protractor and sliding bevel for
measuring, and a shooting board for tweaking joints, that I don't even
think about dealing with non-square corners as a problem... It goes
along with the realization I had while working at Colonial Williamsburg
that pretty much the whole man-made world was built without electricity.
;~)


Absolutely nothing wrong with that ... some of us just find it makes us
more competitive to use electricity when feeding the family with the
proceeds.



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"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/15/2012 3:06 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/15/2012 1:52 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just
use the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against
the saw plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS,
BS, and router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or
crystals/lenses to break!

I was talking about uses that were more along the line of using it to
measure the angle of the corner of room (notoriously un-square),
dividing by two, and setting your miter saw to the results ...
anything that can get you into the ballpark quicker, at $20, will pay
for itself pretty quickly.

I guess I'm so used to using a protractor and sliding bevel for
measuring, and a shooting board for tweaking joints, that I don't even
think about dealing with non-square corners as a problem... It goes
along with the realization I had while working at Colonial Williamsburg
that pretty much the whole man-made world was built without electricity.
;~)


Absolutely nothing wrong with that ... some of us just find it makes us
more competitive to use electricity when feeding the family with the
proceeds.



Yup... There are absolutely times when electricity makes a lot of sense...
and other times when meat powered tools make sense... Developing skill with
both types of power lets you solve problems and get things done!

On 2/15/12 3:12 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/15/2012 3:06 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/15/2012 1:52 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055


Seems to me that if the blade is more accurate than the read-out just
use the blade... I've got no problem laying my sliding bevel up against
the saw plate on my CMS and TS, and against the miter gauges on the TS,
BS, and router table... and there are no batteries to go dead or
crystals/lenses to break!

I was talking about uses that were more along the line of using it to
measure the angle of the corner of room (notoriously un-square),
dividing by two, and setting your miter saw to the results ...
anything that can get you into the ballpark quicker, at $20, will pay
for itself pretty quickly.

I guess I'm so used to using a protractor and sliding bevel for
measuring, and a shooting board for tweaking joints, that I don't even
think about dealing with non-square corners as a problem... It goes
along with the realization I had while working at Colonial Williamsburg
that pretty much the whole man-made world was built without electricity.
;~)


Absolutely nothing wrong with that ... some of us just find it makes us
more competitive to use electricity when feeding the family with the
proceeds.




Yeah, if someone wants to take his horse & buggy to work, that's fine
with me.
Good luck with that.


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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?


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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html

This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run of
these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking about
how I used these things.

Red aluminum and stainless are pretty ugly, in my eyes, compared to the
blued steel and rosewood of my most used bevel gauge. I cannot envision a
nice patina developing on aluminum and stainless... However, that locking
lever is cool... and having a bespoke tool is a neat idea. ;~)

John

On 2/16/2012 7:40 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
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wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the
price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html


This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run
of these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking
about how I used these things.

Yeah it is an intended limited run but that is not a certainty. They
have repeated the run on the "one time" 50" rule 2 times now. Basically
there have been 3 deadlines to order. But to be safe you better order
now if you want one.


Red aluminum and stainless are pretty ugly, in my eyes, compared to the
blued steel and rosewood of my most used bevel gauge. I cannot envision
a nice patina developing on aluminum and stainless... However, that
locking lever is cool... and having a bespoke tool is a neat idea. ;~)

John

On 2/16/2012 7:40 AM, John Grossbohlin wrote:

This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run
of these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking
about how I used these things.

"It is a mistake to think
that a particular tool
is only good or bad
or useful or not
No tool is ever useful
at all times
So, if you have to ask
why you would want it
you probably don't ...
Maybe some day you will
and maybe you won't"

ANON ..

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In article ,
John Grossbohlin wrote:

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
m...
On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
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http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.


http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html

This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run of
these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking about
how I used these things.

Red aluminum and stainless are pretty ugly, in my eyes, compared to the
blued steel and rosewood of my most used bevel gauge. I cannot envision a
nice patina developing on aluminum and stainless... However, that locking
lever is cool... and having a bespoke tool is a neat idea. ;~)

John




Google "Stanley bevel 18" You shouldn't have much trouble finding one
for $20 or so.



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with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)

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"Larry W" wrote in message
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In article ,
John Grossbohlin wrote:


Google "Stanley bevel 18" You shouldn't have much trouble finding one
for $20 or so.

Interesting... I'll keep my eyes open while wandering the floor at my club's
woodworking show in Saratoga Springs at the end of March... It's coming up
quicker than I am getting ready for it!

John

[...snip...]
This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run of
these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking about
how I used these things.

Like this one but for 2-3 times the money? I'll keep my Shinwa.

http://www.amazon.com/Sliding-T-Beve.../dp/B0037XWC4O

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:44:37 -0800, Jim Weisgram
wrote:

[...snip...]
This morning's spam from Woodworking magazine announces the Woodpeckers
bevel gauge... the 7" is $70 and the 12" is $100. No batteries but the
locking handle is in the end of the body. Looks like it's a one time run of
these things and you have to order pre-production by 3/5.
http://www.woodpeck.com/bevelgauge.h...67&rid=3341059 This
locking gizmo seems more useful than knowing the
angle in 1/10s of degrees via a display... but that's just me thinking about
how I used these things.

Like this one but for 2-3 times the money? I'll keep my Shinwa.

http://www.amazon.com/Sliding-T-Beve.../dp/B0037XWC4O

I have a little $5 plastic and stainless job (just like that) which I
used before the electronic bevel gauge came to me from LVT. Both have
their places, and I'm not going to ever consider a ripoff price like
Bridge City charges. Yuckin fuppies overcharging yuppies. sigh

OK, some of their products are well engineered, but...if we priced our
shop output at their prices, simple end tables would cost $23K.

--
The ultimate result of shielding men from folly
is to fill the world with fools.
-- Herbert Spencer

On 2/16/2012 8:07 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html


It looks like they really tried hard with the parts they had on hand! : )

On 2/16/2012 7:40 AM, Bill wrote:
On 2/16/2012 8:07 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the
price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html



It looks like they really tried hard with the parts they had on hand! : )

No kidding!
It tool is way way way overly complex to measure an angle accurately and
while it is expensive it seems under priced given it complexity and
their normally high prices.

If you have a need for their tools many are worth the investment. I
have 7 different BC tools, including a first in a series of one time
tools, the Squivel.

Ok, what's a squivel. I can't find an image. I want to see what the
other half spends their hard earned dollars on.
8)

On 2/16/2012 9:46 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/16/2012 7:40 AM, Bill wrote:
On 2/16/2012 8:07 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the
price?



It is already out. And 22 times the price.

http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html




It looks like they really tried hard with the parts they had on hand! : )

No kidding!
It tool is way way way overly complex to measure an angle accurately and
while it is expensive it seems under priced given it complexity and
their normally high prices.

If you have a need for their tools many are worth the investment. I have
7 different BC tools, including a first in a series of one time tools,
the Squivel.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:07:55 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 2/15/2012 5:52 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,50298&p=69055

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Who wants to wait for the Bridge City version at 5 or 10 times the price?


It is already out. And 22 times the price.

How Festooly^H^H^H^Hive!


http://www.bridgecitytools.com/defau...l-payment.html

Where's the applause coming from? Oh, I do believe it's coming from
the grave of Rube Goldberg himself!

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