Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.
Not the plain square box type that you can find easily but a proper
professional looking shaped one like you find in a funeral parlour

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F Murtz
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.

Needing a place to have daytime naps?


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"F Murtz" wrote in message
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Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.
Not the plain square box type that you can find easily but a proper
professional looking shaped one like you find in a funeral parlour

"m II" wrote in message ...
Needing a place to have daytime naps?


Those Twilight movies really are affecting people, aren't they.

Shucks! Now you let Ed and Mike in on the joke too.

Some people just like satin. The wife doesn't like it when the lid
falls closed. She says, "The air shortage makes it harder to orgasm."

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"Justin Time" wrote in message ...
Those Twilight movies really are affecting people, aren't they.

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"m II" wrote in message
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Needing a place to have daytime naps?

Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes


Well, I doubt you will find free plans for elite or high-end coffin
designs. Those designs would most likely be copyrighted (and some
design elements may be patented) and you would have to pay for them,
IF the owners would be willing to sell their designs to anyone in the
first place... that's probably why you don't readily find them
available. Those who have the copyright/patent to elite coffins may
also have contracted with interior design experts, to further the
elegance of the coffin interiors, etc., hence the total design may
belong to a group or company, furthering its chance of it not being
readily available to you and I.

Your best bet may be to improvise, enhance and/or modify a lesser
design to your own liking.

Sonny

F Murtz writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.

On 01/15/2012 01:49 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.

A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

- Doug


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.


The amenities are for the living. Amen.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

F Murtz wrote:
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.
Not the plain square box type that you can find easily but a proper
professional looking shaped one like you find in a funeral parlour

Think urn.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:38:23 -0600, "HeyBub"
Think urn. That's not a bad idea. I've heard of wooden ones too.
Something a little ornate that can sit on a mantle.

wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

You could build one if you had plans

Hey "Build your own coffin" as the latest woodworking fad!!!


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"F Murtz" wrote in message
nd.com...
You could build one if you had plans

F Murtz wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

You could build one if you had plans


Some (all?) cemetaries have rules which restrict what they will put in
the ground. For instance, they may require a specific sort of "vault"
and a casket that meets certain requirements. This was explained to me
over a casket that was pre-ordered 30 years ago and did not meet the
current requirments, but was "grandfather'ed" in.

The new requirements insure the sale of more expensive caskets. What's
new?

So by all means, check with your cemetary before building--and get your
agreement in writing! I can sort of see some of the appeal in a project
like this, but I'm not in a rush over it. ; )

wrote in news:3jn6h7h32nujd7e1hb6apoulkubfu6tcbo@
4ax.com:


I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.


Bury me in a coffin that resembles my house. Pine interior, sandwiched
with drywall and vinyl siding. Don't forget the ice and water shield on
the roof!

Puckdropper

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, Bill wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.

--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:47:16 +1100, F Murtz
You could build one if you had plans

I could design my own plans if it came down to it. I'm just not
prepared to spend copious sums of money on some exotic hardwood with
attendant hardware and then have it all burnt into ashes in a
crematorium. I might however, make a wooden urn to hold my ashes
should my beneficiary and his family want to display me on the
fireplace mantel. g

On 1/15/2012 5:47 PM, F Murtz wrote:

You could build one if you had plans

http://www.casketplans.com/casket-plans/

On 1/15/2012 10:51 PM, Dave wrote:

I could design my own plans if it came down to it.

http://www.squidoo.com/coffin

On 1/15/2012 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.


Isn't there a famous poem about feeding the ocean fishes that entree?



--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

Viewing the video of commercial casket making, they note that the
"mattress", in the bottom of the casket, is made of shredded wood
called "wood wool". Another name for wood wool is "excelsior",
readily available from American Excelsior, Co. - http://www.americanexcelsior.com/

Sonny

Don't forget the vapour barrier, if using insulation, and the positive
ventilation system.

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"Puckdropper" wrote in message
.com...
Bury me in a coffin that resembles my house. Pine interior, sandwiched
with drywall and vinyl siding. Don't forget the ice and water shield
on
the roof!

Puckdropper

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...&filter=coffin

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...&filter=coffin


On 1/15/2012 5:12 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.
Not the plain square box type that you can find easily but a proper
professional looking shaped one like you find in a funeral parlour

Bill wrote:
On 1/15/2012 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am
after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any
more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will
just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to
bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.


Isn't there a famous poem about feeding the ocean fishes that entree?

I was thinking of this (Mississippi) John Hurt tune:


Let the mermaids flirt with me

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I do not work for pleasure, earthly peace I'll see no more.
The only reason I work at all, is drive the world from my door.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

My wife controls our happy home, a sweetheart I can not find.
The only thing I can call my own, is a troubled and a worried mind.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all in my body, my darling has forsaken me.
If I ever see her face again, I have to swim across the sea.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.






--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:26:20 -0500, Bill wrote:

Bill wrote:
On 1/15/2012 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am
after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any
more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will
just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to
bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.


Isn't there a famous poem about feeding the ocean fishes that entree?

I was thinking of this (Mississippi) John Hurt tune:


Let the mermaids flirt with me

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I do not work for pleasure, earthly peace I'll see no more.
The only reason I work at all, is drive the world from my door.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

My wife controls our happy home, a sweetheart I can not find.
The only thing I can call my own, is a troubled and a worried mind.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all in my body, my darling has forsaken me.
If I ever see her face again, I have to swim across the sea.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I like it!


--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:26:20 -0500, wrote:

Bill wrote:
On 1/15/2012 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am
after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any
more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will
just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to
bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.


Isn't there a famous poem about feeding the ocean fishes that entree?

I was thinking of this (Mississippi) John Hurt tune:


Let the mermaids flirt with me

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I do not work for pleasure, earthly peace I'll see no more.
The only reason I work at all, is drive the world from my door.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

My wife controls our happy home, a sweetheart I can not find.
The only thing I can call my own, is a troubled and a worried mind.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all in my body, my darling has forsaken me.
If I ever see her face again, I have to swim across the sea.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I like it!

John Hurt had such a gentle voice it would about put one asleep.
Kinda fun to pick some of this stuff on guitar though.



--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:42:21 -0500, Bill wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:26:20 -0500, wrote:

Bill wrote:
Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I like it!

John Hurt had such a gentle voice it would about put one asleep.
Kinda fun to pick some of this stuff on guitar though.

If you can pick his music on the gitfiddle, you's a much better guitar
player than I. 'Course, most people are...

--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

Isn't it time we laid this topic to rest?


-----------
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...

If you can pick his music on the gitfiddle, you's a much better guitar
player than I. 'Course, most people are...

On 1/17/2012 9:35 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:42:21 -0500, wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:26:20 -0500, wrote:

Bill wrote:
Blues all on the ocean, blues all in the air.
Can't stay here no longer, I have no steamship fare.
When my earthly trials are over, carry my body out in the sea.
Save all the undertaker bills, let the mermaids flirt with me.

I like it!

John Hurt had such a gentle voice it would about put one asleep.
Kinda fun to pick some of this stuff on guitar though.

If you can pick his music on the gitfiddle, you's a much better guitar
player than I. 'Course, most people are...

I'm sure I didn't always play "up to speed" and it has been a number of
years since I tried. But, for the aspiring fingerstyle-guitarist, I
can't think of much of a better place to start than with MJH. It
amused me at the time that I got a MJH tab book (Stephen Grossman) with
a full CD--oops cassette, of tunes, for less than the price of the
recording by itself. Just play the the notes in order that they are in
the tab, sing along, and repeat! Though I'm sure Doc Watson and Chet
Atkins would play a lot more notes than are in the tab. Too many ways
to have fun! : )


--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

Josepi wrote:
Isn't it time we laid this topic to rest?


We were fishin' for suitable goin' away music!

Do you think the inclusion of a wind-up music box would be tacky?

I'm not sure whether it belongs on the inside or the outside.

Here's the lyrics to "Make me a pallet on your floor"

Make me down a pallet on your floor.
Make me down...
Make me down a pallet down, soft and low
Make me a pallet on your floor.

Up the country, 20 miles or more.
I'm going up the country where the cold, sleet and snow.
I'm going up the country, where the cold, sleet and snow.
No tellin' how much further I may go.

Just make me down ...
Make me down...
Make me a pallet, down, soft and low.
Make me a pallet on your floor.



I think I'll put the music box in the inside!
There's a coupld more versus if anyone is interested. They
are not hard to find.

Stop trying to wind me up! Save it for the spring when things are not so
busy.

It's a dead issue, anyway, and not many are going to undertake a new hobby,
especially coffin making!
It wouldn't be a gravey job to get the finish perfect, and we wood have to
rehearse the process a lot.
You dig ? Don't be pining to discuss it later?

Good wreath, man! If it's any bearing let's take a poll on the matter.
We could be lining up to close this case 'cause they can't handle it.


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"Bill" wrote in message ...
We were fishin' for suitable goin' away music!

Do you think the inclusion of a wind-up music box would be tacky?

I'm not sure whether it belongs on the inside or the outside.

Bill howling tunes deleted

I think I'll put the music box in the inside!
There's a coupld more versus if anyone is interested. They
are not hard to find.

In article , Bill wrote:
F Murtz wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

You could build one if you had plans


Some (all?) cemetaries have rules which restrict what they will put in
the ground. For instance, they may require a specific sort of "vault"
and a casket that meets certain requirements. This was explained to me
over a casket that was pre-ordered 30 years ago and did not meet the
current requirments, but was "grandfather'ed" in.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the government that specifies
such things.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the _government_ that specifies
such things. EPA requirements for protecting the ground-water/aquifer,
for example.

On 1/19/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
In , wrote:
F Murtz wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er) drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

You could build one if you had plans


Some (all?) cemetaries have rules which restrict what they will put in
the ground. For instance, they may require a specific sort of "vault"
and a casket that meets certain requirements. This was explained to me
over a casket that was pre-ordered 30 years ago and did not meet the
current requirments, but was "grandfather'ed" in.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the government that specifies
such things.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the _government_ that specifies
such things. EPA requirements for protecting the ground-water/aquifer,
for example.

I thought that nowdays, most caskets are not buried directly in the
ground, but are placed in buried concrete vaults.

Sadly I go to a number of services as we say good buy to another
brother. The hole is dug, the concrete crypt is placed then the
'box' is held up with straps over this. Many wives leave after the
service, some wait to see the casket lowered into the vault.

Texas put in the law some years ago due to lakes and highways running
through towns and grave yards.

LA started it years ago due to the high water table - crypts are on
top of the ground - less they float anyway.

Lately with the lack of rain, lakes have dried up in many areas.
Some graveyards have been found that were lost. Many very old country
yards were last in tall grass and trees. These were a hundred years old
or so and maybe the community were wiped out by Indians or disease.
Either one would just cause others to stay away. The recovery of
blanket covered bodies is not easy. Most is gone.

It is easier for highway departments to come in and move a yard from
one place to anther if every one is in a concrete crypt. Just keeping
the markers with them is the trick.

Martin


On 1/19/2012 5:37 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
On 1/19/2012 1:31 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
In , wrote:
F Murtz wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:15:11 -0700, Doug Winterburn
A cardboard box into the oven then the ash into the (sal****er)
drink,
that's my plan if medcure won't take me. It they do take me, I'll end
up in the drink anyway. Always wanted to travel.

I've left instructions to cremate me as cheaply as possible and to
spread my ashes in a lumberyard or maybe off a mountain top. No money
spent on a sermon or someone eulogizing me. Then my instructions are
for my beneficiaries to go out and have a few drinks in my name and
then to spend the rest of my estate on themselves.

But, I can envision a nice coffin (before it's cremated) as having its
uses. Makes the living feel a little better I think, sending me off in
style. And all things being equal, I'd prefer to be cremated in a
fancy coffin than a pine box ~ except that I'm too cheap to pay for
that fine coffin.

You could build one if you had plans


Some (all?) cemetaries have rules which restrict what they will put in
the ground. For instance, they may require a specific sort of "vault"
and a casket that meets certain requirements. This was explained to me
over a casket that was pre-ordered 30 years ago and did not meet the
current requirments, but was "grandfather'ed" in.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the government that specifies
such things.

It is often not just the cemetery, but the _government_ that specifies
such things. EPA requirements for protecting the ground-water/aquifer,
for example.

I thought that nowdays, most caskets are not buried directly in the
ground, but are placed in buried concrete vaults.

In article ,
says...

On 1/15/2012 11:19 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:08:03 -0500, wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:
F writes:
Dave wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:12:24 +1100, F
Does any one have plans for a proper coffin (casket)or a tutorial or
instruction manual.

DAGS coffin plans free. You'll get enough free plans to empty half of
New York.
I have done that, that is why I asked here.
The dozens of free plans are not for the quality coffins that I am after
plans for.
They are very plain boxes

I always wondered why, when one is dead and can't possibly care any more, a
plain pine box isn't sufficient.

There really is no point in burying a $10,000 fancy box that will just be
rotting away in a few years anyway, or wasting fine walnut just to bury it.

The amenities are for the living. Amen.

No, the amentities are for the Funeral Home, who just persuaded the
poor, grieving widow/widower that they need the finest silk lining and
the most spectacular wood and pure brass or even gold hardware to go
in the ground with a worthless husk after the soul has left it.

They're as honorable as freakin' used car salesmen, those *******s.

Burn my husk and feed the ocean fishies from the cardboard box.


Isn't there a famous poem about feeding the ocean fishes that entree?

FWIW, after dealing with the funeral home for my father's burial, my
mother added a provision in her will that she was to be cremated and
buried in a cardboard box.



--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

My brother recently passed away. He had always said that he wanted a plain
pine coffin, and he was serious about it. My sister in law honored his
wishes, only to find that a "Plain Pine Coffin" cost almost twice as much as
a standard commercial one. Go figure!

The main reason that plans are not available is the legal aspects. Most
states, and even some local jurisdictions have very specific requirements
for the construction on caskets and coffins. I would think that you may want
to start by checking with the local health department, local undertakers and
or funeral homes. No sense in doing all that work, only to find that the
design is illegal for use because of some little known requirement like
Material selection, or insect repellant coatings etc.. I know that most
require certain types of joinery, glues and hardware. Lots of homework needs
to be done on a project like this.