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DIY coffins
Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting:
http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller |
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Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon Damn good idea IMHO! Maybe I had better start work on mine, I could always use it as a tool chest until I need to wear it ;-). -- Larry Green |
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Yeah, and dig-yer-own-grave, for perfect abs, fitness, and health! Save on
club memberships. ---------------------------- Mr. P.V.'d formerly Droll Troll "Larry Green" wrote in message ... Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon Damn good idea IMHO! Maybe I had better start work on mine, I could always use it as a tool chest until I need to wear it ;-). -- Larry Green |
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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:50:45 -0400, the inscrutable Larry Green
spake: Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon Damn good idea IMHO! Maybe I had better start work on mine, I could always use it as a tool chest until I need to wear it ;-). And by then it'd have that lovely, familiar, machine-oil smell! They have some conflicting info there, though. "No plastics or metals", but they have you glue it together and hold it with screws. Most wood glues are plastic- or animal-based. -- STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL ----------------------- http://diversify.com Veal-free Websites |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:50:45 -0400, the inscrutable Larry Green spake: They have some conflicting info there, though. "No plastics or metals", but they have you glue it together and hold it with screws. Most wood glues are plastic- or animal-based. They claim they use biodegradable, non-toxic wood glue. They do not claim the coffin to be Vegan so the glue might very-well be animal-based. (Do I smell a niche market opening up: caskets made with starch-based glue? Hmmm...) You're partially correct about the misstatement on metals. They claim: "No plastic or metal whatsoever is used in the manufacturing process or left in the assembled product" Actually, metal screws are used in the manufacturing process (they are used to hold the coffin together while the glues sets). But they instruct you to (optionally) remove the screws after the glue has dried (presumably, for those who really want a metal-free casket). But since when is metal not natural nor biodegradable? I say: "Earth to Earth, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust, Metal to Rust." (It even rhymes off the tongue!) - Michael |
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DeepDiver wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:50:45 -0400, the inscrutable Larry Green spake: They have some conflicting info there, though. "No plastics or metals", but they have you glue it together and hold it with screws. Most wood glues are plastic- or animal-based. They claim they use biodegradable, non-toxic wood glue. They do not claim the coffin to be Vegan so the glue might very-well be animal-based. (Do I smell a niche market opening up: caskets made with starch-based glue? Hmmm...) You're partially correct about the misstatement on metals. They claim: "No plastic or metal whatsoever is used in the manufacturing process or left in the assembled product" Actually, metal screws are used in the manufacturing process (they are used to hold the coffin together while the glues sets). But they instruct you to (optionally) remove the screws after the glue has dried (presumably, for those who really want a metal-free casket). But since when is metal not natural nor biodegradable? I say: "Earth to Earth, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust, Metal to Rust." (It even rhymes off the tongue!) - Michael IIRC if one is intent of following strict Jewish tradition, a "Kosher Casket" has to be all wood, no metal. The one we buried my mom in was made that way, I had a look at it and there were some wood dowels holding the joints together. It also had some holes about 3" diameter bored right through the bottom. That's to allow moisture to enter and speed the return of the corpse to the earth. Here is an interesting wooden casket I just Googled up. Click on "Assembly" at the bottom of the page to see how it goes together with no fasteners or glue, sort of like a wooden puzzle, 'eh? http://www.arkwoodcaskets.com/ I think my persona is better suited to departing in this casket: http://funeraldepot.com/returntosender.htm And, I'd like the back side of my tombstone to have these two short words carved into it: HA HA Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public schools" |
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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 21:08:38 -0400, the inscrutable Jeff Wisnia
spake: DeepDiver wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 17:50:45 -0400, the inscrutable Larry Green spake: They have some conflicting info there, though. "No plastics or metals", but they have you glue it together and hold it with screws. Most wood glues are plastic- or animal-based. They claim they use biodegradable, non-toxic wood glue. They do not claim the coffin to be Vegan so the glue might very-well be animal-based. (Do I smell a niche market opening up: caskets made with starch-based glue? Hmmm...) I don't even want to KNOW anyone that anal. You're partially correct about the misstatement on metals. They claim: "No plastic or metal whatsoever is used in the manufacturing process or left in the assembled product" Actually, metal screws are used in the manufacturing process (they are used to hold the coffin together while the glues sets). But they instruct you to (optionally) remove the screws after the glue has dried (presumably, for those who really want a metal-free casket). But since when is metal not natural nor biodegradable? I say: "Earth to Earth, Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust, Metal to Rust." (It even rhymes off the tongue!) Good'un. IIRC if one is intent of following strict Jewish tradition, a "Kosher Casket" has to be all wood, no metal. The one we buried my mom in was made that way, I had a look at it and there were some wood dowels holding the joints together. It also had some holes about 3" diameter bored right through the bottom. That's to allow moisture to enter and speed the return of the corpse to the earth. I thought "Kosher" meant "all beef". bseg Here is an interesting wooden casket I just Googled up. Click on "Assembly" at the bottom of the page to see how it goes together with no fasteners or glue, sort of like a wooden puzzle, 'eh? http://www.arkwoodcaskets.com/ Classy joinery: all sliding dovetails. I -like- it! I think my persona is better suited to departing in this casket: http://funeraldepot.com/returntosender.htm Red and blue stripes on a brown paper bag casket? Tres gauche. And, I'd like the back side of my tombstone to have these two short words carved into it: HA HA What about the front? For my end, have a nice Irish wake, then burn me and toss my ashes into the sea to feed the fishies. (I know, I'd no longer be of any food value. Instead, I'm donating my body to science fiction.) -- STOP LIVING LIKE VEAL ----------------------- http://diversify.com Veal-free Websites |
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The one the pope was put in - that is the one that is going to sell big
time!! Ken (plant me not) -- http://www.rupert.net/~solar Return address supplied by 'spammotel' http://www.spammotel.com |
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"Leon Heller" wrote in news:42583aea$0$292
: Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon At one time in the recent past Rockler Woodworking had all the hardware to make a casket in their catalog. I didn't see in the last few catalogs. They must have gotten some PC complaints. |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:58:37 GMT, Ken Moffett
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: So whatever happened to the good ol "pine box" anyway? G "Leon Heller" wrote in news:42583aea$0$292 : Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon At one time in the recent past Rockler Woodworking had all the hardware to make a casket in their catalog. I didn't see in the last few catalogs. They must have gotten some PC complaints. ************************************************** **************************************** WHY _ARE_ WE HERE? Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:58:37 GMT, Ken Moffett
wrote something .......and in reply I say!: "Leon Heller" wrote in news:42583aea$0$292 : Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ They ARE the good ol Pine Box! ************************************************** **************************************** WHY _ARE_ WE HERE? Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music remove ns from my header address to reply via email !! ") _/ ) ( ) _//- \__/ |
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I think you are right.
I thought there were three different ones they used. The metal one used was made of zinc...why? TMT |
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Theory has it the undertakers have the largest and most organized
political lobbies that has no real opposition. Things like underground vaults that prevent seepage to prevent hepatitis in ground water go unopposed. More complicated means more money. BUT, there was an article in mother earth news on building your own casket and having a natural funeral. Old Nick wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:58:37 GMT, Ken Moffett wrote something ......and in reply I say!: So whatever happened to the good ol "pine box" anyway? G "Leon Heller" wrote in news:42583aea$0$292 |
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On 2005-04-09, Leon Heller wrote:
http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Thank goodness! I was just about to buy an IKEA cof-n, this will be much nicer. -- Ben Jackson http://www.ben.com/ |
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message oups.com... I think you are right. I thought there were three different ones they used. The metal one used was made of zinc...why? TMT Presumably the eco lobby has outlawed lead ones. Martin -- martindot herewhybrowat herentlworlddot herecom |
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Okay, that makes sense.
I was surprised at the use of zinc...I would have expected something like lead. FYI...over in rec.woodworking they are also discussing the Pope's coffin with a Terri S. side rant. TMT |
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Hey, does Harbor Freight carry coffins?
"Leon Heller" wrote in message ... Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller |
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"Tony" wrote in message
... Hey, does Harbor Freight carry coffins? Y'sure you'd want to go to your afterlife in a box made by them? Might break when you're halfway there and well... :-p Tim -- "California is the breakfast state: fruits, nuts and flakes." Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:47:17 -0500, "Tim Williams"
wrote: "Tony" wrote in message ... Hey, does Harbor Freight carry coffins? Y'sure you'd want to go to your afterlife in a box made by them? Might break when you're halfway there and well... :-p Tim Im reminded of a funeral I attended in the early 70s, where a friends rather obese mom passed. As the pall bearers were carrying her down the steps to the hearse, for the last ride to the marble orchard..the bottom came out of the coffin. Mom beat the pall bearers to the hearse by a significant amount of time. thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa thumpa (snip more thumps..about 25 stairs) Crash. She didnt seem to mind much, but the litigation went on for a few years. Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:00 -0400, the inscrutable "Tony"
spake: "Leon Heller" wrote in message ... Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ --top posting corrected-- Hey, does Harbor Freight carry coffins? No, but they have this nifty DIY cremation kit: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91721 ---------------------------------- VIRTUE...is its own punishment http://www.diversify.com Website Applications ================================================== |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:00 -0400, the inscrutable "Tony" spake: "Leon Heller" wrote in message ... Woodwork, not metalwork, but interesting: http://www.eco-coffins.com/ --top posting corrected-- Hey, does Harbor Freight carry coffins? No, but they have this nifty DIY cremation kit: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91721 how about this kiln? long enough for wilt: http://www.brottworks.com/consult3.html ---------------------------------- VIRTUE...is its own punishment http://www.diversify.com Website Applications ================================================== |
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