Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape*
was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... : (

Thank you,
Bill

On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not
aluminum.


I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.


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On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Personally, I don't know that I would go to the expense and trouble as
GFCI is not required under a kitchen sink for a garbage disposal by most
NEC versions being used that I'm aware, and it is not really necessary
in that application.

YMMV ....

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On 9/3/11 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Personally, I don't know that I would go to the expense and trouble as
GFCI is not required under a kitchen sink for a garbage disposal by most
NEC versions being used that I'm aware, and it is not really necessary
in that application.

YMMV ....


Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.


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On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:36:23 -0400, -MIKE-
wrote:
Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.

Just as long as you don't have to reset the damned thing three times a
day eh? g

On 9/3/11 6:46 PM, Dave wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:36:23 -0400,
wrote:
Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.

Just as long as you don't have to reset the damned thing three times a
day eh?g

If that's happening, there's definitely something wrong. :-)


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In article , -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Personally, I don't know that I would go to the expense and trouble as
GFCI is not required under a kitchen sink for a garbage disposal by most
NEC versions being used that I'm aware, and it is not really necessary
in that application.

YMMV ....


Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.

Well, when the wall switch that controls the disposer is 'off' there's
*no* electicity down there, anyway. A 'ground fault' -- that a GFCI
would catch -- is possible _only_ when the GD is powered.

It's really _not_ necessary, and provides a benefit only under *very*
limited (and _very_ unusual) circumstances.

There's no real -harm- in putting one in, although it may cause an un-
necessary service call by the _next_ owner, if -- no, *WHEN* -- it trips.

On 9/3/11 8:22 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
In , wrote:
On 9/3/11 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Personally, I don't know that I would go to the expense and trouble as
GFCI is not required under a kitchen sink for a garbage disposal by most
NEC versions being used that I'm aware, and it is not really necessary
in that application.

YMMV ....


Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.

Well, when the wall switch that controls the disposer is 'off' there's
*no* electicity down there, anyway. A 'ground fault' -- that a GFCI
would catch -- is possible _only_ when the GD is powered.

It's really _not_ necessary, and provides a benefit only under *very*
limited (and _very_ unusual) circumstances.

There's no real -harm- in putting one in, although it may cause an un-
necessary service call by the _next_ owner, if -- no, *WHEN* -- it trips.


Do me a favor and underline and bold type some more, could you? :-p


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"Robert Bonomi" wrote


Well, when the wall switch that controls the disposer is 'off' there's
*no* electicity down there, anyway. A 'ground fault' -- that a GFCI
would catch -- is possible _only_ when the GD is powered.

What wall switch? Not every disposal has a wall switch. Mine is plugged into
a receptacle under the cabinet and the stopper is magnetic and controls an
internal switch.

To the OP, it is better to keep the plug end if possible. Makes taking it
out easier. You can make a very short cord to extend it if needed.

In article , says...

On 9/3/11 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Personally, I don't know that I would go to the expense and trouble as
GFCI is not required under a kitchen sink for a garbage disposal by most
NEC versions being used that I'm aware, and it is not really necessary
in that application.

YMMV ....


Interesting that it wouldn't be required given the likely potential for
leaks and water when people are under there repairing stuff. Either way,
I tend to go overboard with those things. I don't mind the cost given
their benefit.

The sink is pretty thoroughly grounded in most residences.

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
in.local...

The sink is pretty thoroughly grounded in most residences.

=====

No ground on my sink via the ABS drain pipes or the PEX supply tubes either.

--

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In article ,
-MIKE- wrote:
I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


That is the better and maybe easier solution. GFCI outlet.

Wouldn't be allowed in the UK. Putting any kind of electrical outlet where
it might get wet, such as under a sink, is a definite no-no. GFCI, RCCD or
not.

The socket outlets are above the work-top and the cables brought up
through small holes at the back to the plugs.

--
Stuart Winsor

On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

On 9/3/11 11:47 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

A lot of things aren't code approved that would work perfectly fine.


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http://mikedrums.com

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-MIKE- wrote:

A lot of things aren't code approved that would work perfectly fine.


That's the standard that some contractors I've hired use. What's sad is
that their prices are higher than what perfect fine should really get
(IMO). When I hire something done by a professional, I don't expect it
to be done perfectly fine unless I'm offered a choice.

On 9/4/11 12:42 AM, Bill wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:

A lot of things aren't code approved that would work perfectly fine.


That's the standard that some contractors I've hired use. What's sad is
that their prices are higher than what perfect fine should really get
(IMO). When I hire something done by a professional, I don't expect it
to be done perfectly fine unless I'm offered a choice.


Great. Completely out of context, but I agree.


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On 9/4/2011 12:35 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 11:47 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

A lot of things aren't code approved that would work perfectly fine.

That doesn't mean you should do them -- or advise others to.

On 9/4/11 12:19 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/4/2011 12:35 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 11:47 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately
the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not
aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

A lot of things aren't code approved that would work perfectly fine.

That doesn't mean you should do them -- or advise others to.


It's a disposal that runs for a few seconds a few times a day.
It doesn't mean they should be scared out of doing an otherwise safe
installation simply because the nec found a reason to advise against it.

An example. Wall plugs are now installed "upside-down" apparently
because of a new fear that a metal object could fall behind the plug
which isn't fully plugged in and short the hot/neutral. This doesn't all
of a sudden render all the plugs in my house unsafe, simple because
there are still people in the world who can't seem to plug in their
stuff all the way.


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

I'm surprised it is allowed to use a flexible cord which, because of the
nature of the device, has such a high probability of laying in water at
some point if the 36" cord is merely plugged in. I won't let the cord
rest on the bottom surface.

Admittedly, the cord appears to be of very good quality. Surely it is
waterproof unless it cracks.

In article ,
says...

Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

I'm surprised it is allowed to use a flexible cord which, because of the
nature of the device, has such a high probability of laying in water at
some point if the 36" cord is merely plugged in. I won't let the cord
rest on the bottom surface.

Admittedly, the cord appears to be of very good quality. Surely it is
waterproof unless it cracks.

If it's plugged in the electrical code does not apply. Code stops at
the outlet. Fire code or other codes may apply but not the electrical
code. I don't know why people have so much trouble with this.

On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:34:26 -0400, Bill
wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

I'm surprised it is allowed to use a flexible cord which, because of the
nature of the device, has such a high probability of laying in water at
some point if the 36" cord is merely plugged in. I won't let the cord
rest on the bottom surface.

Admittedly, the cord appears to be of very good quality. Surely it is
waterproof unless it cracks.

A garbage disposal is required to have a disconnect which the plug in
meets code for a disposal.

Mike M

On 9/4/2011 8:31 PM, Mike M wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:34:26 -0400,
wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:
On 9/3/2011 5:40 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/3/11 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

Short answer: yes. As long as the romex wire is copper and not aluminum.

Sorry, that's *not* correct: flexible cord is not Code-approved for
permanent connection to the wiring system except under limited
circumstances that do not pertain here.

I'm surprised it is allowed to use a flexible cord which, because of the
nature of the device, has such a high probability of laying in water at
some point if the 36" cord is merely plugged in. I won't let the cord
rest on the bottom surface.

Admittedly, the cord appears to be of very good quality. Surely it is
waterproof unless it cracks.

A garbage disposal is required to have a disconnectwhich the plug in
meets code for a disposal.

Yes, but so does a wall switch, as long as it's within sight. (2008 NEC,
Article 422.31(B))

On 9/3/2011 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction box.... : (

It's usually that way for a good reason ... GD's are usually plugged
into a switched receptacle, located _under_ the counter top, so that you
can turn them on and off on at a switch somewhere _above_ the counter
top ... much more convenient and safe.

You don't want to have to open the cabinet door reach and reach under
the sink to turn the GD off and on.

Putting in a plug receptacle will take you about the same amount of time
as it would to hardwire the GD.

Do it, it makes more sense in the long run.

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On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:46:50 -0500, Swingman wrote:

Putting in a plug receptacle will take you about the same amount of time
as it would to hardwire the GD.

Considering it's locaton, should a garbage disposal use a GFI plug?

On 9/3/2011 5:13 PM, Dave wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:46:50 -0500, wrote:

Putting in a plug receptacle will take you about the same amount of time
as it would to hardwire the GD.

Considering it's locaton, should a garbage disposal use a GFI plug?

Not according to code in most locales _in a kitchen sink_. Put one
somewhere else and all bets are off.

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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:46:50 -0500, Swingman wrote:

Putting in a plug receptacle will take you about the same amount of time
as it would to hardwire the GD.

Considering it's locaton, should a garbage disposal use a GFI plug?

As long as the outlet is -under_ the sink/counter, in a cabinet housing,
a GFCI is not required by current (pun intended) U.S. National Electrical
Code. YMMV in other jurisdictions.

Note: If you have an 'open' sink -- say, wall-mount, or 'pedestal', all
bets are off.

Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.
GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately
the cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and
attach this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no,
but I have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next
solution is to install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there
were no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape*
was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... : (


Put in an electrical outlet ON the wall under the sink. It will make
installation of the NEXT garbage disposal easier.

HeyBub wrote:
Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.
GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately
the cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and
attach this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no,
but I have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next
solution is to install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there
were no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape*
was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... : (


Put in an electrical outlet ON the wall under the sink. It will make
installation of the NEXT garbage disposal easier.


I sort of wish that seemed reasonable. As it is, I decided to install an
outlet on the back of the plywood or particle board (?) on the back of
the cabinet. Finally got all the parts together and am looking forward
to an exciting Saturday night. : )

Thank you everyone for your suggestions!

Bill

On Sep 3, 4:40*pm, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. *Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. *Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? *I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. *If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...

BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. **Scotch tape*
was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... *: (

Thank you,
Bill

Put in a receptacle with GFI if you wish, high up in the sink cabinet
and use one of these.

http://faucets.efaucets.com/faucets/...20Air%20Switch

On Sep 3, 4:40*pm, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. *Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. *Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? *I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. *If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...

BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. **Scotch tape*
was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... *: (

Thank you,
Bill

Put a receptacle under the sink, GFI if you want. Operate the GD with
a pneumatic switch which I bought from HD....on the same shelf as the
GD's.
The switch mounts in the countertop (3/4" hole, IIRC) next to the
tap... handy as a pocket on a shirt....as a bag of chips?....

On 9/3/2011 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction box.... : (

Thank you,
Bill


why not just set an outlet in the box, plug it in and be done?


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On 9/3/2011 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box?

You can -- but you violate Code if you do.

I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...

Yep.

BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction box.... : (

Yikes!!

On Sep 3, 4:40*pm, Bill wrote:

there were no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming
out the junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit.
**Scotch tape* was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on
the junction box.... *

Redo the electrical and install an outlet for the disposal. Assume the
previous "electrician" wired it to a wall switch above the sink - if
not, you should do so.

You can, of course, "hard-wire" the disposal to the junction box, but
installing a GFCI duplex outlet (or a standard outlet) would be much
better from a re-sale perspective. Anything a Home Inspector can
readily see should LOOK "right." Anything that doesn't gets flagged
and, then, you have to call a licensed electrician to "fix it" prior
to closing - no fun and expensive!

Hoosierpopi wrote:
On Sep 3, 4:40 pm, wrote:

there were no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming
out the junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit.
*Scotch tape* was used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on
the junction box....

Redo the electrical and install an outlet for the disposal. Assume the
previous "electrician" wired it to a wall switch above the sink - if
not, you should do so.

That's a good point about the switch. I'm writing that down so I don't
forget to check. I finished installing the new outlet about 4am last
night. It wasn't easy to get to, and there wasn't enough romex available
to offer me many alternatives. Now, I can try to install the garbage
disposal...



You can, of course, "hard-wire" the disposal to the junction box, but
installing a GFCI duplex outlet (or a standard outlet) would be much
better from a re-sale perspective. Anything a Home Inspector can
readily see should LOOK "right." Anything that doesn't gets flagged
and, then, you have to call a licensed electrician to "fix it" prior
to closing - no fun and expensive!

Actually, when we bought the house 2 years ago, we pointed out the lack
of a GFCI outlet near the sink and the sellers put one in. So now, there
is a 15A GFCI outlet on a 20A circuit/circuit breaker. Should it be
swapped out with a 15A circuit breaker because of this? One could argue
that the C'Breaker IS protecting "the wire", no? Or is this a potential
hazard?

Thanks!
Bill

On 9/4/2011 3:37 PM, Bill wrote:
Actually, when we bought the house 2 years ago, we pointed out the lack
of a GFCI outlet near the sink and the sellers put one in. So now, there
is a 15A GFCI outlet on a 20A circuit/circuit breaker. Should it be
swapped out with a 15A circuit breaker because of this? One could argue
that the C'Breaker IS protecting "the wire", no? Or is this a potential
hazard?

Not usually a problem - where the branch circuit supplies one duplex, or
two or more single receptacles - or a code violation in most locales. A
15A receptacle, standard or GFCI, is rated for 20A throughput.

Basically, it should be impossible by virtue of the plug configuration,
by today's standards, to plug anything in that would be in violation.

CAVEAT: again, this may not apply to all jurisdictions, as even the
exceptions may vary from place to place, IME.

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On 9/4/2011 5:06 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/4/2011 5:06 PM, Swingman wrote:

Basically, it should be impossible by virtue of the plug
configuration, by today's standards, to plug anything
in that would be in violation.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

For the AR's ... that was intended to read "would be a danger".

Gotta be careful, in an electrical thread on the wRec, that you don't
start a fire!



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On 9/3/2011 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction box.... : (

Thank you,
Bill



Glad you weren't looking for a quick answer! LOL

On 9/06/11 3:40 PM, Leon wrote:
On 9/3/2011 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... : (


Glad you weren't looking for a quick answer! LOL

In addition to the typo in electrical, he misspelled Quirky.
:-)

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On 9/6/2011 2:40 PM, Leon wrote:
On 9/3/2011 3:40 PM, Bill wrote:
Am try to install new garbage disposal and have a quick electrical
quesiton.

GD Unit came with (3-prong) electrical cord attached. Unfortunately the
cord does not seem to be removable. Can I cut off the plug and attach
this to the romex in my junction box? I suspect the answer is no, but I
have to ask. If this is not acceptable, I think the next solution is to
install a new electrical outlet under the sink...


BTW, whoever installed the last one wasn't too A-R about it: there were
no "romex connectors" going into the junction box, coming out the
junction box, or going into the garbage disposal unit. *Scotch tape* was
used to cover the sharp edges on the knock-outs on the junction
box.... : (

Thank you,
Bill



Glad you weren't looking for a quick answer! LOL

Hell, he got the correct answer on the second _reply_ at 4:46 PM.
Nothing further was needed on the original question ... and for the GFCI
question, eleven minutes later at 4:57 PM.

http://www.craftkb.com/Uwe/Threads/L...trial-Question

Everything since is either echoes, or noise.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

Swingman wrote:
On 9/6/2011 2:40 PM, Leon wrote:

Glad you weren't looking for a quick answer! LOL

Gosh, and I almost didn't post my "quick question".
It's hard to guess what will capture peoples' interest. But I think if a
thread has a lot of potential energy in it (like a good application of
gravity, chickens, a catapult, gun powder, and/or electricity), that
probably adds to its attractiveness to me and to many other like-minded
overaged juvenile-delinquent's here! : )



Hell, he got the correct answer on the second _reply_ at 4:46 PM.
Nothing further was needed on the original question ... and for the GFCI
question, eleven minutes later at 4:57 PM.

http://www.craftkb.com/Uwe/Threads/L...trial-Question


Everything since is either echoes, or noise.