I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south
Georgia in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

As of next week, passwords will be
entered in Morse code.

On 6/30/11 6:47 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south Georgia
in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

A great screw would have been if they got lost in transit and there was
no refund.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On 6/30/2011 4:47 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south Georgia
in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Oh, what a setup for a long line of ribald OT replies.

On 6/30/2011 5:47 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south Georgia
in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Must be a time warp ... Woke the Canuck up and ordered a crosscut bar
for my Leigh D4 dovetail jig yesterday morning, 2nd day air.

Was out in the shop a few minutes ago and heard the unmistakable sound
of a UPS truck.

Hmmmm. Yep, that's what it was ... and no extra charge on the bill.

Maybe the sky is fixing to fall?

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:20 -0400, Gerald Ross
wrote:

I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south
Georgia in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Had to give up on them when they started collecting taxes in Texas.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:20 -0400, Gerald Ross
wrote:

I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south
Georgia in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Had to give up on them when they started collecting taxes in Texas.

Since Grainger has a presence in Texas, they are required to collect the
taxes. I'd rather pay the tax than get a lesser quality product.

In article , gwr40
@comsouth.net says...

I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south
Georgia in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Dunno how McFeelys is set up, but I do know that FedEx will (for a
price) store your inventory in their warehouse, which might not be near
where your business office is located. I suspect that UPS will do the
same.

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:20 -0400, Gerald
wrote:

I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south
Georgia in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Had to give up on them when they started collecting taxes in Texas.

They also collected GA state taxes, but with only $1 shipping, it was
cheaper than a trip to Lowe's, or ordering from Lee Valley and paying
their shipping charge.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

As of next week, passwords will be
entered in Morse code.

On 7/1/2011 12:32 AM, wrote:
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

????????......

--
Digger
Bob O'Dell

On 6/30/2011 6:47 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south Georgia
in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

Because they shipped from South Carolina. I'm in Hampton, GA and I get
1 day turnaround too.

Mike

On 7/2/2011 12:38 AM, ChairMan wrote:

"Lew
If 6.25% (Unless you are in Andrews County) breaks your piggy bank,
you probably need to find a new hobby.

8.25% in Dallas
I ordered 2000 2" in 8&10s and shipping and tax was 7.36, BFD
I couldn't drive to pick 'em up that cheap

I think you guys are missing the point.

I guarantee you it's going to add to cost of goods to be forced to
COLLECT taxes for all 50 states along with the thousands of
jurisdictions that add their own sales tax to the statutory state sales
tax, and that must also be collected as part of the sales tax.

You know who pays any tax, right? Not the corporation, YOU! So to act
like the $7.36 is no BFD is shortsighted thinking.

Again, the cost of being a tax collector is going to be added to the
cost of doing business, which YOU will again be paying.

IMO, it's a bad idea that is unconstitutional to start with.

Then again, the constitution is basically in shreds as it is thanks to
the warped thinking of lawyer politicians.

Unfortunately there is little no doubt that it will eventually come to
pass ... BOHICA.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in
On 7/2/2011 12:38 AM, ChairMan wrote:

"Lew
If 6.25% (Unless you are in Andrews County) breaks your piggy bank,
you probably need to find a new hobby.

8.25% in Dallas
I ordered 2000 2" in 8&10s and shipping and tax was 7.36, BFD
I couldn't drive to pick 'em up that cheap

I think you guys are missing the point.

I guarantee you it's going to add to cost of goods to be forced to COLLECT
taxes for all 50 states along with the thousands of jurisdictions that add
their own sales tax to the statutory state sales tax, and that must also
be collected as part of the sales tax.

You know who pays any tax, right? Not the corporation, YOU! So to act like
the $7.36 is no BFD is shortsighted thinking.

Again, the cost of being a tax collector is going to be added to the cost
of doing business, which YOU will again be paying.

IMO, it's a bad idea that is unconstitutional to start with.

Then again, the constitution is basically in shreds as it is thanks to the
warped thinking of lawyer politicians.

Unfortunately there is little no doubt that it will eventually come to
pass ... BOHICA.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

I see your point and agree, but . . . . .

Buying a lesser product from a source with no tax rather than paying the tax
for a better product proves nothing. All you do is end up with a crappy
screw. Refusing to order from a tax collecting seller amongst tens of
thousands of orders being shipped does not send much of a message to
politicians.

Yes, we should protest the tax on internet sales for the reasons you state,
but the right way is to contact those involved directly.

I also thing it is best to support local business too, but that is not
always practical or best for me. Sometimes it is cheaper to spend $6.95 for
shipping than to drive 30 miles for an item. The world is changing and it
may be too late to save the local buggy whip maker. The few left would
probably do better to get a web site and increase market exposure.

On 7/2/2011 11:22 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Yes, we should protest the tax on internet sales for the reasons you
state, but the right way is to contact those involved directly.

I like the way Amazon is doing it to California. They are dropping all
California affiliates so they don't have to collect taxes for the bed
wetters (w/o representation I might add) I generally like Amazon but
now I'm loving them. Couldn't happen to a better state, and with any
luck, this move should cost them big time.

I also thing it is best to support local business too, but that is not
always practical or best for me. Sometimes it is cheaper to spend $6.95
for shipping than to drive 30 miles for an item. The world is changing
and it may be too late to save the local buggy whip maker. The few left
would probably do better to get a web site and increase market exposure.

The best way to support business is supply and demand. Whomever fills
your needs best gets your money. Stupidly supporting or not supporting
for political/social reasons is generally not the best way to go in the
long run. Not buying McFeely's screws simply because they are made in
China would be stupid, if they make the best screw at the best price.
I've bought McFeely's screws, and I don't think they are anything
special in quality or price, but at least you know they are not crap.

For example, I would not pay 100 bucks more for a tool shipped from
California than the same tool shipped from Kansas just because I like
paying taxes to a state that sucks the big one...

--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

On Jul 2, 9:53*am, Swingman wrote:
On 7/2/2011 12:38 AM, ChairMan wrote:

* "Lew
* If 6.25% (Unless you are in Andrews County) breaks your piggy bank,
* you probably need to find a new hobby.

* 8.25% in Dallas
* I ordered 2000 2" in 8&10s and shipping and tax was 7.36, BFD
* I couldn't drive to pick 'em up that cheap

I think you guys are missing the point.

I guarantee you it's going to add to cost of goods to be forced to
COLLECT taxes for all 50 states along with the thousands of
jurisdictions that add their own sales tax to the statutory state sales
tax, and that must also be collected as part of the sales tax.

You know who pays any tax, right? Not the corporation, YOU! So to act
like the $7.36 is no BFD is shortsighted thinking.

Again, the cost of being a tax collector is going to be added to the
cost of doing business, which YOU will again be paying.

IMO, it's a bad idea that is unconstitutional to start with.

Then again, the constitution is basically in shreds as it is thanks to
the warped thinking of lawyer politicians.

Unfortunately there is little no doubt that it will eventually come to
pass ... BOHICA.

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

caveat: The people who made this little cartoon/video did so with the
intent to sell a book.
Personally. I couldn't give a rat's ass about that book, it is not the
reason why I posted the link.
But I do 'get' the message.

When shipping several thousand pounds of Metal targets - I went FED-EX
Ground. Two pallets - (my truck would only tote one at a time).

They went by truck from Deep East Texas -200 miles to Houston. Air from
there to DC. Truck from DC to the local mountain range.

UPS has planes also. Likely went by train to Chicago and out on an
cargo plane.

They work 24/7. Track one - see that at 3 am it gets somewhere and is
clocked in... and then it is clocked out...


Martin

On 6/30/2011 5:47 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I ordered some screws online yesterday just after lunch. They arrived
this afternoon by UPS. How did they get from Wisconsin to south Georgia
in one day? Shipping was $1.00.
If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

On 2011-07-01 09:46:30 -0400, Digger said:

If you want a great screw, this is the place to go.

????????......

Service Supply in Indianapolis used to bill itself as "The House of a
Million Screws." Drove past the place recently and noticed a new name
of the building and no slogan, but damned if I could tell you what it
was....

Of course the days of the Rigid Tool calendars are past, too.

Yet there lurks the 12-year-old in many of us. And he's still snickering!

On 2011-07-02 09:53:30 -0400, Swingman said:

IMO, it's a bad idea that is unconstitutional to start with.

I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but I think the biggest strike against
sales taxes is that they are regressive. If the majority of your income
is spent on the necessities of life (and we'll include quality
square-drive screws here, so that we remain on topic), the sales tax
you pay has a terrific impact on your finances as a percentage of your
expenditures.

If you're spending a miniscule portion of your earnings on the same
neccessities, while banking your the vast bulk of your income in some
sheltered Bahamian account, you could give a twit about the sales tax.

Without resorting to the S-word, let's throw out a bible passage: "Of
those to whom much is given, much shall be required." Let's dump the
sales taxes (there are five states that don't have 'em...), and move
our taxation model to income taxes, with far fewer exemptions. If
you're a fat cat, you don't need to be subsidized.

"Jack Stein" wrote
I also thing it is best to support local business too, but that is not
always practical or best for me.

The best way to support business is supply and demand. Whomever fills
your needs best gets your money. Stupidly supporting or not supporting
for political/social reasons is generally not the best way to go in the
long run.
For example, I would not pay 100 bucks more for a tool shipped from
California than the same tool shipped from Kansas just because I like
paying taxes to a state that sucks the big one...

A Weber Summit grill locally comes to $2008. On line, it came to $1473
sitting on my deck.

In article om,
says...

On 2011-07-02 09:53:30 -0400, Swingman said:

IMO, it's a bad idea that is unconstitutional to start with.

I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but I think the biggest strike against
sales taxes is that they are regressive. If the majority of your income
is spent on the necessities of life (and we'll include quality
square-drive screws here, so that we remain on topic), the sales tax
you pay has a terrific impact on your finances as a percentage of your
expenditures.

If you're spending a miniscule portion of your earnings on the same
neccessities, while banking your the vast bulk of your income in some
sheltered Bahamian account, you could give a twit about the sales tax.

Without resorting to the S-word, let's throw out a bible passage: "Of
those to whom much is given, much shall be required." Let's dump the
sales taxes (there are five states that don't have 'em...), and move
our taxation model to income taxes, with far fewer exemptions. If
you're a fat cat, you don't need to be subsidized.

If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.

But once a tax code is established, it needs to be made very difficult
to change it, because that's the big problem, they monkey with the tax
code every year in ways that don't really change anything but make it
impossible to plan ahead because you have no idea what your taxes are
going to be.

"J. Clarke" wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress is
sure to pass it.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 06:49:22 -0600, Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article ):


"J. Clarke" wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress is
sure to pass it.


Ummm like:

How much did you earn in 20xx?: _________
Send it in.

-Bruce

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"J. wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress is
sure to pass it.

Are you trying to put all those nice people out of work? That is
un-patriotic.
Who would run the presidency, congress, and supreme court if there
were no lawyers?

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

If the government doesn't trust us
with our guns, why should we trust
them with theirs?

In article ,
says...

"J. Clarke" wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress is
sure to pass it.

I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment to the effect that a person
may be required to file with the government one form each year,
consisting of a single page, and may be required to file no other form,
and that if government tells him he must file more than one form he gets
to decide which form to file.

Also that the sum total of all taxes and other mandatory transfers of
funds to the government or to government sponsored programs, direct and
indirect paid by any person in any given year may not exceed ten percent
of his income and if the government provides him with bills for more
than that amount he gets to decide which to pay up to the 10 percent
limit.

And that no person may be arrested, detained, annoyed, spoken to
harshly, glared at, or otherwise in any manner be pestered by the
government for lack of any government-mandated form, certificate,
license, unpaid tax or anything else having to do with government
requirements as long as he has (a) filed his one form and (b) paid his
10 percent tax.

And that "deceased violated the above paragraph" be an affirmative
defense in cases involving homicide of a government official.

On 7/03/11 10:22 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment to the effect that a person
may be required to file with the government one form each year,
consisting of a single page, and may be required to file no other form,
and that if government tells him he must file more than one form he gets
to decide which form to file.

Also that the sum total of all taxes and other mandatory transfers of
funds to the government or to government sponsored programs, direct and
indirect paid by any person in any given year may not exceed ten percent
of his income and if the government provides him with bills for more
than that amount he gets to decide which to pay up to the 10 percent
limit.

And that no person may be arrested, detained, annoyed, spoken to
harshly, glared at, or otherwise in any manner be pestered by the
government for lack of any government-mandated form, certificate,
license, unpaid tax or anything else having to do with government
requirements as long as he has (a) filed his one form and (b) paid his
10 percent tax.

And that "deceased violated the above paragraph" be an affirmative
defense in cases involving homicide of a government official.

all that and you didn't even request "world peace" in your idea of
utopia. :-)

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 06:49:22 -0600, Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article ):


"J. Clarke" wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one
minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress
is
sure to pass it.


Ummm like:

How much did you earn in 20xx?: _________
Send it in.

-Bruce


Nah, buy yourself a six-pack and send in the rest.

One a serious note, the tax form can be that simple. I don't know if 10% or
20% or whatever is needed, but it can be that easy. No deductions, no
loopholes, no accountants and lawyers (like that would ever happen).

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do not
understand the forms and laws as they stand.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:25:52 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:


"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 06:49:22 -0600, Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article ):


"J. Clarke" wrote
If the personal income tax and user fees for services were the only
taxes, that might not be too bad. Dump the sales tax, dump the property
tax, etc.


I have a plan for a simple tax form that is on one page and takes one
minute
to fill out.. Once I get the lawyers and accountants behind me, Congress
is
sure to pass it.


Ummm like:

How much did you earn in 20xx?: _________
Send it in.

-Bruce


Nah, buy yourself a six-pack and send in the rest.

One a serious note, the tax form can be that simple. I don't know if 10% or
20% or whatever is needed, but it can be that easy. No deductions, no
loopholes, no accountants and lawyers (like that would ever happen).

What do you do with businesses (CoGS, etc.)?

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do not
understand the forms and laws as they stand.

The common forms are pretty simple. I think it's more that the government has
people so scared that they're afraid of doing something wrong. There is good
reason for that feeling, though. VT has sent a collections company after me
for $20K that I don't owe (didn't live in, or work in, the state - paid
elsewhere).

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do
not understand the forms and laws as they stand.
Hey, there is a reason they call it the tax CODE.

On 7/3/2011 1:21 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:


"Ed Pawlowski" wrote

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do
not understand the forms and laws as they stand.
Hey, there is a reason they call it the tax CODE.

And once passed, and for those being governed, a law is harder to remove
than a mountain range ...

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 7/3/2011 1:53 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:25:52 -0400, "Ed wrote:

One a serious note, the tax form can be that simple. I don't know if 10% or
20% or whatever is needed, but it can be that easy. No deductions, no
loopholes, no accountants and lawyers (like that would ever happen).

What do you do with businesses (CoGS, etc.)?

Businesses don't pay taxes, people pay taxes...

--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

On 7/3/2011 12:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
....

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do
not understand the forms and laws as they stand.

I'd think that mostly either just don't try or are undereducated.
There's really nothing terribly complicated about the basic 1040 and
Schedules most folks need. If have more complex issues, maybe, but I
figure the fella' does mine is earning his keep w/ the business end.

The no-deduction idea is a non-starter so there's not even any reason to
go there on why it doesn't work...

--

On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:36:32 -0400, Jack Stein wrote:

On 7/3/2011 1:53 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:25:52 -0400, "Ed wrote:

One a serious note, the tax form can be that simple. I don't know if 10% or
20% or whatever is needed, but it can be that easy. No deductions, no
loopholes, no accountants and lawyers (like that would ever happen).

What do you do with businesses (CoGS, etc.)?

Businesses don't pay taxes, people pay taxes...

That depends on your definition of "pay". But I certainly would support the
elimination of all corporate income taxes. That wasn't at issue, however.

"dpb" wrote in message ...
On 7/3/2011 12:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do
not understand the forms and laws as they stand.

I'd think that mostly either just don't try or are undereducated. There's
really nothing terribly complicated about the basic 1040 and Schedules
most folks need. If have more complex issues, maybe, but I figure the
fella' does mine is earning his keep w/ the business end.


Tens of thousands of high school grads don't have the proper brain cells to
fill out a tax form. They may be remarkably talented in other areas, just
not doing what you and I think of a simple form. Most schools don't teach
tax forms either.

On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:42:06 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:


"dpb" wrote in message ...
On 7/3/2011 12:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers for
anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a half dozen
people every year for free. They are good, hard working people that do
not understand the forms and laws as they stand.

I'd think that mostly either just don't try or are undereducated. There's
really nothing terribly complicated about the basic 1040 and Schedules
most folks need. If have more complex issues, maybe, but I figure the
fella' does mine is earning his keep w/ the business end.


Tens of thousands of high school grads don't have the proper brain cells to
fill out a tax form. They may be remarkably talented in other areas, just
not doing what you and I think of a simple form. Most schools don't teach
tax forms either.

I never took "Tax Forms 101", either. OTOH, I did learn arithmetic (in
arbitrary bases) by junior high.

wrote


I never took "Tax Forms 101", either. OTOH, I did learn arithmetic (in
arbitrary bases) by junior high.

We use some unskilled labor at work. I see these people every day and 99%
of them could not understand the simplest forms. They end up paying $75+ to
some tax preparer, for the federal, almost that much for the state form that
is more complex. Since they don't have the money to pay for it, they have
the fees taken from the refund and pay even more for the privilege.

Add to that, the people speaking little or no English.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message
...
On 7/3/2011 12:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
...

I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers
for anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a
half dozen people every year for free. They are good, hard working
people that do not understand the forms and laws as they stand.

I'd think that mostly either just don't try or are undereducated.
There's really nothing terribly complicated about the basic 1040 and
Schedules most folks need. If have more complex issues, maybe, but
I figure the fella' does mine is earning his keep w/ the business
end.

Tens of thousands of high school grads don't have the proper brain
cells to fill out a tax form. They may be remarkably talented in
other areas, just not doing what you and I think of a simple form. Most
schools don't teach tax forms either.

Are you kidding?

The SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY can't fill out a tax form! Even with the help
of tax software and a computer!

No, best to pay no taxes at all and you won't have to confront the
government form.

On 7/4/2011 3:18 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:36:32 -0400, Jack wrote:

On 7/3/2011 1:53 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jul 2011 13:25:52 -0400, "Ed wrote:

One a serious note, the tax form can be that simple. I don't know if 10% or
20% or whatever is needed, but it can be that easy. No deductions, no
loopholes, no accountants and lawyers (like that would ever happen).

What do you do with businesses (CoGS, etc.)?

Businesses don't pay taxes, people pay taxes...

That depends on your definition of "pay". But I certainly would support the
elimination of all corporate income taxes. That wasn't at issue, however.

I know that wasn't the issue, the issue was McFeely's Screws. I was
just responding to your particular question:-)

--
Jack
You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out!
http://jbstein.com

On 7/4/2011 9:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Most schools don't
teach tax forms either.

Few teachers capable of teaching them ... the inmates are in charge of
that asylum.

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On Tue, 5 Jul 2011 06:37:49 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message
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On 7/3/2011 12:25 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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I think it is sad that people have to pay high prices to preparers
for anything but the EZ form to be filled out. I do taxes for a
half dozen people every year for free. They are good, hard working
people that do not understand the forms and laws as they stand.

I'd think that mostly either just don't try or are undereducated.
There's really nothing terribly complicated about the basic 1040 and
Schedules most folks need. If have more complex issues, maybe, but
I figure the fella' does mine is earning his keep w/ the business
end.

Tens of thousands of high school grads don't have the proper brain
cells to fill out a tax form. They may be remarkably talented in
other areas, just not doing what you and I think of a simple form. Most
schools don't teach tax forms either.

Are you kidding?

The SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY can't fill out a tax form! Even with the help
of tax software and a computer!

There is a difference between can't and won't.

No, best to pay no taxes at all and you won't have to confront the
government form.

I haven't figured out what happened, but Vermont wants almost $20K from me for
a year I didn't live or work there. You may not have to confront the form,
but unless you are the Secretary of the Tresury, you will have to confront the
government.

"J. Clarke" wrote




It will use the EZ Pass system. You don't even have to slow down now.
If
you don't have a pass, they bill you from the plate number on the car.
They
are talking about 8 border locations on 95, 91, 84, 395 and a few
others.

Are they going to clearly mark where the tolls are collected and the
amounts and have "last exit before toll" signs? Or are people just
going to get a surprise bill in the mail?

I've not read any details, but I'm sure they will be well marked. The
system is in use on the Garden State Parkway and on Rt 95 going through New
Hampshire.

I don't mind paying a fair tax or toll since I do use the roads. What I do
mind is that many of us in border towns will be paying either nothing,
because we use the side roads, or a much larger portion since we cross the
border frequently. The lawmakers that travel from home to Hartford will pay
nothing, but I would have to pay about $1200 a year.

The toll will be in one direction only so I can cross coming home, but will
have to circumvent on the way to work or for some shopping and doctor
visits. The side roads will be much more congested with the toll dodgers
and they are not built for the heavy traffic.

BTW, near work, gas is $3.59 and pumped for you. Near home it is 3.97 today
for self service.

"Stuart" wrote in message
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In article ,
ChairMan nospam@nospam wrote:
If 6.25% (Unless you are in Andrews County) breaks your piggy bank,
you probably need to find a new hobby.

Lew




8.25% in Dallas
I ordered 2000 2" in 8 &10s and shipping and tax was 7.36, BFD
I couldn't drive to pick 'em up that cheap

You lucky b******s, if you were in the UK you'd be paying TWENTY PERCENT,
yes 20%!

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Stuart Winsor

Did you ever notice the correlation between the amount of taxes paid
and the number of royals supported?
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