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![]() "tommyboy" wrote in message ... I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG Well, the Tormeck is an expensive machine. So it would make sense that it's attachments would be expensive as well. That said, it has a big wheel that moves slowly. I would imagine the engineering and physics of a drill sharpening attachment would be different than more traditional arrangements. Which may explain some of the hefty price. I don't think that very many people who are looking for something to sharpen drill bits are going to run out and buy a Tormek. But I have seen some expensive drill sharpeners for metal shops that do a first class job and sharpen drills in volume. And the price would be similar to this setup or a little less. Soooo....., this seems to be an expensive accessory for the folks who already own a Tormeck. After all, they have demonstrated an active interest in sharpening things. |
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![]() "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net wrote in message eb.com... "tommyboy" wrote in message ... I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG Well, the Tormeck is an expensive machine. So it would make sense that it's attachments would be expensive as well. That said, it has a big wheel that moves slowly. I would imagine the engineering and physics of a drill sharpening attachment would be different than more traditional arrangements. Which may explain some of the hefty price. I don't think that very many people who are looking for something to sharpen drill bits are going to run out and buy a Tormek. But I have seen some expensive drill sharpeners for metal shops that do a first class job and sharpen drills in volume. And the price would be similar to this setup or a little less. Soooo....., this seems to be an expensive accessory for the folks who already own a Tormeck. After all, they have demonstrated an active interest in sharpening things. Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. |
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"Leon" wrote in message
... "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net wrote in message eb.com... "tommyboy" wrote in message ... I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG Well, the Tormeck is an expensive machine. So it would make sense that it's attachments would be expensive as well. That said, it has a big wheel that moves slowly. I would imagine the engineering and physics of a drill sharpening attachment would be different than more traditional arrangements. Which may explain some of the hefty price. I don't think that very many people who are looking for something to sharpen drill bits are going to run out and buy a Tormek. But I have seen some expensive drill sharpeners for metal shops that do a first class job and sharpen drills in volume. And the price would be similar to this setup or a little less. Soooo....., this seems to be an expensive accessory for the folks who already own a Tormeck. After all, they have demonstrated an active interest in sharpening things. Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. A lot less than half. Max |
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:43:35 -0700, "Max"
wrote: "Leon" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net wrote in message eb.com... "tommyboy" wrote in message ... I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG Well, the Tormeck is an expensive machine. So it would make sense that it's attachments would be expensive as well. That said, it has a big wheel that moves slowly. I would imagine the engineering and physics of a drill sharpening attachment would be different than more traditional arrangements. Which may explain some of the hefty price. I don't think that very many people who are looking for something to sharpen drill bits are going to run out and buy a Tormek. But I have seen some expensive drill sharpeners for metal shops that do a first class job and sharpen drills in volume. And the price would be similar to this setup or a little less. Soooo....., this seems to be an expensive accessory for the folks who already own a Tormeck. After all, they have demonstrated an active interest in sharpening things. Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. A lot less than half. What, youse guys can rationalize gazillions on bailouts and Festerings, but can't spend a measly $600 on a stupid grinder? nomex=ON -- The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings. -- Okakura Kakuzo |
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![]() "Larry Jaques" wrote in message What, youse guys can rationalize gazillions on bailouts and Festerings, but can't spend a measly $600 on a stupid grinder? High price tags for the equipment and especially the price of $260 for the sharpener attachment would come *after* it's gained a decent market share of satisfied customers and supporting tool reviews. I doubt Leon is very willing to be a cash up front guinea pig when it comes to developing that market share. |
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![]() "Max" wrote in message eb.com... Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. A lot less than half. Max That would depend on the model you get. Mine was around $100 but It was not the top of the line model, and now they have one that does spade bits. http://www.drilldoctor.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=90 |
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 09:58:44 -0600, "Leon"
wrote: "Max" wrote in message web.com... Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. A lot less than half. Max That would depend on the model you get. Mine was around $100 but It was not the top of the line model, and now they have one that does spade bits. http://www.drilldoctor.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=90 Do they have one for brad point or forstner bits yet? -- The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings. -- Okakura Kakuzo |
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![]() "Leon" wrote in message ... Actually a Drill Doctor does the job very very quickly compared to the Tomek set up and for about half the price. Actually, the Drill Doctor does a better job. On the site they talk about a 4 facet point. The four facet point of the Tormek is inferior to the curved facet grind of the Drill Doctor. |
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In article , tommyboy wrote:
I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG I own a Tormek, so I'm on their email distribution list. I have most of the accessories already, so when I got the email about this one I thought I'd be interested. Until I saw the price. The way I figure it, $255 will buy an awful lot of drill bits... |
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![]() "Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , tommyboy wrote: I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG I own a Tormek, so I'm on their email distribution list. I have most of the accessories already, so when I got the email about this one I thought I'd be interested. Until I saw the price. The way I figure it, $255 will buy an awful lot of drill bits... Me too, I have had the Tomek for about 10 years and bought the whole package when it was about $800. Realistically the add on to sharpen bits is worth about $75 IMHO. |
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On Dec 18, 11:07*am, "Leon" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , tommyboy wrote: I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-...tachment/dp/B0.... I own a Tormek, so I'm on their email distribution list. I have most of the accessories already, so when I got the email about this one I thought I'd be interested. Until I saw the price. The way I figure it, $255 will buy an awful lot of drill bits... Me too, I have had the Tomek for about 10 years and bought the whole package when it was about $800. *Realistically the add on to sharpen bits is worth about $75 IMHO. There are only a few sizes I wear to dullness...every 2 years or so... I just get new ones. I can't even justify a Drill Doctor and they're low cost. Mind you, most of the drilling I do is done with those combo tapered/ countersink gizmos from Lee Valley... Then there is one size of forstner style bit, a 35 mm, of which I own 3..and I have those sharpened professionally. |
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![]() "Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Dec 18, 11:07 am, "Leon" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , tommyboy wrote: I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-...tachment/dp/B0... I own a Tormek, so I'm on their email distribution list. I have most of the accessories already, so when I got the email about this one I thought I'd be interested. Until I saw the price. The way I figure it, $255 will buy an awful lot of drill bits... Me too, I have had the Tomek for about 10 years and bought the whole package when it was about $800. Realistically the add on to sharpen bits is worth about $75 IMHO. There are only a few sizes I wear to dullness...every 2 years or so... I just get new ones. I can't even justify a Drill Doctor and they're low cost. Mind you, most of the drilling I do is done with those combo tapered/ countersink gizmos from Lee Valley... Then there is one size of forstner style bit, a 35 mm, of which I own 3..and I have those sharpened professionally. I had so many dull bits it was redicklus. ;~) If I only used the bits for wood working I'd probably only buy replacements but I often get into other stuff. And then I break bits at inopertune moments and those can be revived with a sharpening with out having to make a special trip to the store. |
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In article , "Leon" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , tommyboy wrote: I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-.../dp/B004AYCXVG I own a Tormek, so I'm on their email distribution list. I have most of the accessories already, so when I got the email about this one I thought I'd be interested. Until I saw the price. The way I figure it, $255 will buy an awful lot of drill bits... Me too, I have had the Tomek for about 10 years and bought the whole package when it was about $800. Realistically the add on to sharpen bits is worth about $75 IMHO. I agree completely, Leon. If it had been only $75, I'd already own one. But three+ times that? No way. |
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On Dec 17, 12:43*pm, tommyboy wrote:
I'm speechless.....$255?? http://www.amazon.com/Tormek-DBS-22-...tachment/dp/B0... There still appears to be a market for folks who want to pay $300-400 for a Fein multipurpose tool set. Likewise some will be more than happy to put out the extra bucks for this. Being ignorant on how the Tromek works, I doubt if it is much better or faster than my Drill Doctor. It took some fiddling to figure it out the first time. But once it is set up, I can go through my bench- box of dull bits in a few minutes. RonB |
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