Dear experts,

My latest project is refinishing the kitchen.

I've decided to keep the existing cabinets, and
have painted them. But I'm thinking of changing
the doors.

At Home Depot, I saw, in the same section as the
melamine, what they called a pine laminate.

This are long pieces of pine, edge glued together
to form a flat board. The same effect is seen in
a solid wood table top.

I like this idea, of using real wood laminate for
the cabinet doors. But but I'm not fond of pine.
I could make them myself, but I would have to buy
the tools, and take the time to build the boards,
before finally getting to making the doors.

Does anyone know where I could buy a similar, solid wood,
edge glued laminate? But, made out of oak or maple?
I live in the Boston area.

Also, do I have the right term? Does this product go by
another name? (not oak/maple laminate?)


Thanks a lot

Does anyone know where I could buy a similar, solid wood,
edge glued laminate? But, made out of oak or maple?
I live in the Boston area.

You could try a kitchen countertop place. They'll probably have the
laminate, but be prepared to pay a lot more for the wood.

I've actually refurbished a kitchen using pine laminate shelving for the
doors and drawer fronts. With a dark red-brown dye stain and semi-gloss
clear it looked great.

All of the prospective buyers who went through the house oohed and aahed at
the wood, and it definitely helped sell the house. The lesson to me was that
even the cheapest materials can be made to look good, and the quality of the
finish is just as important as the quality of construction.

Roger Redford wrote:

I could make them myself, but I would have to buy
the tools, and take the time to build the boards,
before finally getting to making the doors.

All you'd need is a saw and a plane. Plus clamps. Lots of clamps.

If you have a router you could use it instead of the plane to edge the =
boards by running along a straight edge. Obviously, you could also use =
a joiner.

Once you have your boards glued up it is duck soup to make the doors. =
Note that they should be full overlay doors, not inset.

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As another option, you could use the pine glue-ups as a substrate
on which you could apply a veneer in the wood of your choice.
You would only need a simple laminate trim tool for the edges.

If it were me, I think I would buy a few hundred dollars of tools
(router, plane, etc) and glue up some solid material. It would
probably be much cheaper & after its finished, you still have the
tools.

My 2ç.

Lou

In article ,
Roger Redford wrote:
[ ... ]
At Home Depot, I saw, in the same section as the
melamine, what they called a pine laminate.
[ ... ]
Does anyone know where I could buy a similar, solid wood,
edge glued laminate? But, made out of oak or maple?
I live in the Boston area.

Sure. Look in the flooring section. They should have a variety
of hardwood veneered producs you can use.

Also, do I have the right term? Does this product go by
another name? (not oak/maple laminate?)

Veneer. That's the term for applying a thin layer of real wood
over a base material.

Thanks a lot

You're welcome.

Of course, you could just ask at Home Depot to see if they can
order oak or maple laminate where they get the pine.


Gary

--
Gary Heston

Contrary to popular opinion, _not_ everyone loves Raymond.

At Home Depot, I saw, in the same section as the
melamine, what they called a pine laminate.

I saw something similar there too, called "Thermofoil." I passed on that
after some checking on the net showed there was some concern over the stuff
changing color and coming unglued. This did happen most frequently over
stoves/ovens, but I can't imagine how hot a stove would have to get to make
the laminate start to peel and discolor.

Instead, I ordered up some cabinets with solid birch doors (stained and
varnished) with a laminate countertop. Cost a little more, but it looks
better . . .
-Tock

On 18 Apr 2004 09:07:33 -0700, (Roger Redford)
wrote:

Dear experts,

My latest project is refinishing the kitchen.

Does anyone know where I could buy a similar, solid wood,
edge glued laminate? But, made out of oak or maple?
I live in the Boston area.

Bad idea. There is a very good reason why frame and panel construction
is used (and had been used for centuries) for doors and other flat
surfaces. That is to prevent warping. Your laminated panels are
extremely likely to warp in no time, especially as you are in Boston
with large humidity swings.

Note that laminated panels are a lot easier to make than frame and
panel doors, and the old timers did not go to the trouble of making
mortised frames and panels just because they were prettier. As you
rightly note, flat panels can be very attractive.

Flat kitchen cabinet doors only started being used when stable
products such as plywood, particle board and MDF became available. So
if you want flat doors, I would suggest going for plywood with an
attractive figure.

I have used the laminated pine panels and they have, without
exception, all warped. I would not use them for doors.

Luigi
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I have used the laminated pine panels and they have, without
exception, all warped. I would not use them for doors.

I haven't had any warps from pine laminate doors, not even after two years
on the soggy west coast.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:58:44 -0700, "mp" scribbled:

I have used the laminated pine panels and they have, without
exception, all warped. I would not use them for doors.

I haven't had any warps from pine laminate doors, not even after two years
on the soggy west coast.

Interesting, but can't argue with experience, as Swingman says. What
kind of pine? Finish? Do you heat in winter -- and dry out your house?
Where did you get them?

My experience with pine panels is like I said. But then I live in a
very dry climate and the panels are probably manufactured somewhere
much wetter.

Luigi
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Thanks everyone for your responses.

However, I already knew about using the roll on laminate.
And, how to make them myself. And edge veneer.

But I still have my heart set on oak or maple laminate.

Does anyone know if it exists? Where could I buy it?


(Roger Redford) wrote in message . com...
Dear experts,

My latest project is refinishing the kitchen.

I've decided to keep the existing cabinets, and
have painted them. But I'm thinking of changing
the doors.

At Home Depot, I saw, in the same section as the
melamine, what they called a pine laminate.

This are long pieces of pine, edge glued together
to form a flat board. The same effect is seen in
a solid wood table top.

I like this idea, of using real wood laminate for
the cabinet doors. But but I'm not fond of pine.
I could make them myself, but I would have to buy
the tools, and take the time to build the boards,
before finally getting to making the doors.

Does anyone know where I could buy a similar, solid wood,
edge glued laminate? But, made out of oak or maple?
I live in the Boston area.

Also, do I have the right term? Does this product go by
another name? (not oak/maple laminate?)


Thanks a lot

(Roger Redford) wrote in message om...
Thanks everyone for your responses.

However, I already knew about using the roll on laminate.
And, how to make them myself. And edge veneer.

But I still have my heart set on oak or maple laminate.

Does anyone know if it exists? Where could I buy it?

Telephone book = lumber yard = call...

Cheers,

Ned

I haven't had any warps from pine laminate doors, not even after two
years
on the soggy west coast.

Interesting, but can't argue with experience, as Swingman says. What
kind of pine? Finish? Do you heat in winter -- and dry out your house?
Where did you get them?

Nothing fancy, just the plain HD & Rona shrinkwrapped pine laminate
shelving. The doors were dyed and sprayed with lacquer. The doors are in the
kitchen, and subject to the occasional bit of humidity and kitchen heat. The
weather on the west coast doesn't really get all that dry in the winter.
Perhaps these conditions help to limit warping.

But I still have my heart set on oak or maple laminate.

Does anyone know if it exists? Where could I buy it?

As mentioned earlier, it's available as kitchen countertop material. You
might even be able to buy slabs of it at Ikea in their kitchen department.

In article ,
Roger Redford wrote:
Thanks everyone for your responses.

However, I already knew about using the roll on laminate.
And, how to make them myself. And edge veneer.

But I still have my heart set on oak or maple laminate.

Does anyone know if it exists? Where could I buy it?


If all else fails, go to an 'art supply' store. One that sells artists
paints, brushes, etc. Look at 'wooden drawing boards'. Usually solid,
P
laminated up, maple.

Sit down before looking at the price tags, however.