yep - when I lived in a Coastal Redwood forest it was touch or do it all
every fall. Just before cool days set in. Winter rains would pound it.

I measured (using my pro 10" to the .01" gauge ) 90 to 100 inches.
One year it was so bad that the ground jellied. It was about 6" deep.

My deck 24 feet in the air - was about 1800 square feet took two and half
landings to get all the way down. We lived in the house for 18 years
and it passed inspection when we sold it.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 5/20/2010 6:23 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote:

Spar varnish.

NOT.

Varnish, especially spar, or even poly or LP, just won't cut it on
redwood.

Need a penetrating oil, applied every 6-9 months, depending on
exposure.

BTW, cheap and fast are mutually exclusive in this application.

Lew

Only 102 miles to the local store :-)

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 5/22/2010 12:42 AM, Winston wrote:
On 5/21/2010 7:20 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 10:36:44 -0700,
wrote the following:

On 5/20/2010 3:45 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
This is out in the "weather" (1) 24 x 7 so durability
is most important.

If you put Spar Varnish on this it will look fantastic and shiney for
about 11 months. Then it will start to peel. No problem, simply sand
of every bit of it at that time and then reapply. Repeat every 11
months... forever. Even on a front door that is only partially
exposed, the best you'll get is two years off any varnish. Aslk any
boat owner about the word "refit."

OK, three votes for Penofin or an analog.

I will begin looking for a local supplier.

There are only forty one dealers within 50 miles of 95116.
http://www.penofin.com/location.shtml

Yup! Turns out it's available across the street and down a ways
from Pinecone Lumber.

Thanks again!

--Winston

On 5/22/2010 9:25 PM, Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Only 102 miles to the local store :-)

Wow!

I couldn't do that!

--Winston

I have two (shop-built using Norm's plan) redwood adirondack chairs
and a small knee-high redwood table and these are kept outdoors on the
deck. In winter, I bring them in, tighten any loose bolts, sand, and
coat with Flood's product (it is called CW? or some three letters I
can not recall). This darkens the wood and protects it for up to two
years. Not as durable as paint, but it never peels and very easy to
apply. The label says it dries in 48 hours--I say give it a week of
drying for the stickiness to go away. Sanding removes the gray color
and the finish almost makes the redwood look new again. The furniture
is about 15 years old, still sturdy and looking very good.

On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:25:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote the following:

Only 102 miles to the local store :-)

http://www.penofin.com/location.shtml

Here ya go, Martin: http://fwd4.me/Pcv $12 s/h is cheaper than a long
drive using 10 gallons of gas, eh? Use UPS diesel instead!

--
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when
they do it from religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal

On Sun, 23 May 2010 09:09:38 -0400, Phisherman
wrote the following:

I have two (shop-built using Norm's plan) redwood adirondack chairs
and a small knee-high redwood table and these are kept outdoors on the
deck. In winter, I bring them in, tighten any loose bolts, sand, and
coat with Flood's product (it is called CW? or some three letters I

CWF, or Clear Wood Finish. OK stuff.


can not recall). This darkens the wood and protects it for up to two
years. Not as durable as paint, but it never peels and very easy to
apply. The label says it dries in 48 hours--I say give it a week of
drying for the stickiness to go away. Sanding removes the gray color
and the finish almost makes the redwood look new again. The furniture
is about 15 years old, still sturdy and looking very good.

I hate gray wood. Keep up the good work, Phishy.

--
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when
they do it from religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal

On 5/23/2010 6:09 AM, Phisherman wrote:
I have two (shop-built using Norm's plan) redwood adirondack chairs
and a small knee-high redwood table and these are kept outdoors on the
deck. In winter, I bring them in, tighten any loose bolts, sand, and
coat with Flood's product (it is called CW? or some three letters I
can not recall). This darkens the wood and protects it for up to two
years. Not as durable as paint, but it never peels and very easy to
apply. The label says it dries in 48 hours--I say give it a week of
drying for the stickiness to go away. Sanding removes the gray color
and the finish almost makes the redwood look new again. The furniture
is about 15 years old, still sturdy and looking very good.

Cool! Thanks!

--Winston

Hum - market possibly :-) Thanks for the pointer.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 5/23/2010 8:49 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:25:31 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote the following:

Only 102 miles to the local store :-)

http://www.penofin.com/location.shtml

Here ya go, Martin: http://fwd4.me/Pcv $12 s/h is cheaper than a long
drive using 10 gallons of gas, eh? Use UPS diesel instead!

--
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when
they do it from religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal

(Edward A. Falk) writes:
Just an update. I've been doing some stain tests, and I have to say
I really really like the look of Penofin. (I also very much liked the
excellent service I got at Pinecone Lumber and the fact that there was
a bin of free samples right there in the store.)

But what I *really* liked was the look of clear polyurethane on top
of the Penofin. This may seem like overkill to some people, but this
project is going to eventually spend some time in the Black Rock desert.
You'll never see a harsher environment than that, and playa dust is
bugger-all difficult to remove.

Poly and sun don't generally mix well.


Next up: finding an affordable source of redwood in the San Francisco
area.

Try Jackel hardwoods in watsonville.

scott

Big Tree or San Lorenzo lumber in the Santa Cruz area.
Former resident.

Don't forget to protect on all sides. Any cut end and old cut ends.

Otherwise - the wood will absorb underneath and the bottom will expand
or rot out. It is all or nothing. Equal absorption.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 6/16/2010 3:36 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
Just an update. I've been doing some stain tests, and I have to say
I really really like the look of Penofin. (I also very much liked the
excellent service I got at Pinecone Lumber and the fact that there was
a bin of free samples right there in the store.)

But what I *really* liked was the look of clear polyurethane on top
of the Penofin. This may seem like overkill to some people, but this
project is going to eventually spend some time in the Black Rock desert.
You'll never see a harsher environment than that, and playa dust is
bugger-all difficult to remove.

Next up: finding an affordable source of redwood in the San Francisco
area.