On 3/28/2010 1:29 PM, wrote:
On Mar 28, 1:19 am, Puckdropperpuckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:


That's not quite the point I was trying to make. They don't want to
discuss politics with the internet at large, they want to discuss them
with the guys here, on this group.

I respectfully disagree. To me, they are like the loudest bullies
making noise in the first grade classroom. Everyone knows what they
are saying and doing. If they are in a quiet room (like a woodworking
newsgroup), they will really stand out when they start their hijinks.

But if you put them in a classroom or a playground of like minded
loudmouths they simply disappear in the ambient noise. Nope, this is
their stage.

I could find no group that had split
so the people on the group could have their own private political
discussions. At least not following the pattern *.something.politics.

Here again, a less than .5 second search of "starting a newsgroup"
yielded pages of instruction. Moreover, the search didn't even tap
making a private Yahoo group or a Google group.

No sale on a lack of venue. Most of these folks aren't idiots.
ANYTIME, and I do mean anytime, 24/7 every day of the year, if they
wanted to take it private and argue amongst themselves, they could
have their group set up in minutes. They are here because they want
to be, not because they have to be.

How else could their internet friends appreciate the depth of their
huge political acumen, or their keen insight into the "real" truth
that only a few can understand without their personal help? Their
opinions are of such weight and importance they have to stand out.
Arguing amongst themselves in a 15 man group would simple devolve into
petty bickering in just a few posts and the group would lose interest
in itself.

These guys need an audience.

This is a public newsgroup, so it their right to post as they wish.
Their lack of respect of the group intent and charter is their
business. They are here because they want to be.

Robert.

Yes, you can start a newsgroup. Anybody can start one in the alt
heirarchy. Good luck getting USENET providers to carry it, and good
luck getting people to use it. Unless they are carefully targetted,
splinter groups generally get no traffic to speak of.

On Mar 28, 11:32*am, "J. Clarke" wrote:

Yes, you can start a newsgroup. *Anybody can start one in the alt
heirarchy. *

Or:

http://groups.google.com/groups/create?hl=en&lnk=gcphp

a few seconds and *poof* you got it.

Good luck getting USENET providers to carry it, and good
luck getting people to use it. *Unless they are carefully targetted,
splinter groups generally get no traffic to speak of.

Echoing Puck's point, he was thinking that some here may want to bandy
about their beliefs with each other, and were only lacking a venue.
Who would care then, if their was a larger audience for their views if
they were genuinely, and only interested in discourse amongst
themselves? No one would care about post counts, traffic,
advertising, click ads or anything else. They could hammer on each
other to their hearts delight. And it wouldn't cost them anything,
and they could keep it amongst themselves.

*My* point was there would be no larger stage for their considered
opinions, the showboating of their perceived smack downs, and one
oneupmanship they try to practice.

My point is that for these guys it is better to be a small fish in a
mud puddle than to be big fish in the ocean.

Robert

On 3/28/2010 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mar 28, 11:32 am, "J. wrote:

Yes, you can start a newsgroup. Anybody can start one in the alt
heirarchy.

Or:

http://groups.google.com/groups/create?hl=en&lnk=gcphp

a few seconds and *poof* you got it.

Good luck getting USENET providers to carry it, and good
luck getting people to use it. Unless they are carefully targetted,
splinter groups generally get no traffic to speak of.

Echoing Puck's point, he was thinking that some here may want to bandy
about their beliefs with each other, and were only lacking a venue.
Who would care then, if their was a larger audience for their views if
they were genuinely, and only interested in discourse amongst
themselves? No one would care about post counts, traffic,
advertising, click ads or anything else. They could hammer on each
other to their hearts delight. And it wouldn't cost them anything,
and they could keep it amongst themselves.

There are many venues for "bandying about beliefs". Having one more is
not going to make the discussion move from here to there.

*My* point was there would be no larger stage for their considered
opinions, the showboating of their perceived smack downs, and one
oneupmanship they try to practice.

What makes you think that anybody participating in such a discussion
cares about the size of the audience?

My point is that for these guys it is better to be a small fish in a
mud puddle than to be big fish in the ocean.

They don't care about the size of fish they are or the size of the
puddle, only that someone posted a statement to which they take exception.

Political threads occur in every non-moderated newsgroup on USENET.
There's nothing that can be done about it lawfully except liberal use of
the killfile. Making another empty newsgroup will not cause the
discussion to move there.