Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

wrote in message
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Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

Some times the "quality" of the tool and the "ease of use" and the "what
you would expect" factor in as to whether you would use the tool more than
once.

I am very close to buying "another" guide for cutting plywood sheets. My
first one sucked, and was a PIA to use. My next one made by Festool will
come with a Festool circular saw. That guide is stupid easy, conveinent,
and probably more than what you would expect from a guide.

After that

PC Detail Sander tops the list.

I still use a guide to cut down sheet goods. Much handier for my
style of work.

The biggest waste of time and money I own is the DeWalt version of the
Rotozip. One of my buddies bought one and convinced me you could use
it for about anything.

Quite the opposite is true. I tried to cut 3/8" plywood with it, and
got smoke with the proper bits. I tried to used it as a laminate
trimmer, and not enough torque. I don't need the mess it makes to cut
a hole or two in sheetrock.

However, it was a Christmas gift, so it is still with us. It sits on
the shelf, unused unopened for about the last 8 - 10 years.

What a waste.

Robert

On 3/27/10 1:32 PM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message
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Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

Some times the "quality" of the tool and the "ease of use" and the "what
you would expect" factor in as to whether you would use the tool more than
once.

I am very close to buying "another" guide for cutting plywood sheets. My
first one sucked, and was a PIA to use. My next one made by Festool will
come with a Festool circular saw. That guide is stupid easy, conveinent,
and probably more than what you would expect from a guide.

After that

PC Detail Sander tops the list.

Got the Dremel Detail Sander, rather use a piece of sandpaper in my hand.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On Mar 27, 1:32*pm, "Leon" wrote:
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Ok, here's my contribution to *more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

Some times the "quality" of the tool and the "ease of use" *and the "what
you would expect" factor in as to whether you would use the tool more than
once.

I am very close to buying "another" guide for cutting plywood sheets. *My
first one sucked, and was a PIA to use. *My next one made by Festool will
come with a Festool circular saw. *That guide is stupid easy, conveinent,
and probably more than what you would expect from a guide.

After that

PC Detail Sander tops the list.- Hide quoted text -

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Just made the same thing for my jigsaw, a narrow strip
of 3/4" ply screwed to a wider strip of 3/8" ply, cut the edges
off with the jigsaw, line the sole side with several strips
of friction tape. Cost was three minutes' digging through
the scrap bin for material. Works perfectly. Hold down against
the line to be cut and saw, no time wasted looking for and
setting up clamps -- less really is more. This device WILL
get used frequently.

" wrote in news:6c0720d1-
:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

I think the HF nailer was one of my most disappointing. It often failed
to advance the nails at random times, often resulting in damage to the
wood. The bottle of oil that was included had what looked to be a spout
on it, and when you turned around the spout and punctured it the seal
would be permanently broken and oil free to spill all over.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ
I think I have one of those - along with a "trim tramp"

wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

1) Sears pad sander. Got it before I started woodworking. Tried using it
to re-finish a cabinet. It vibrated lots, made my hand numb, but didn't
really sand wood. I almost didn't get my PC ROS because I was convinced
that electric sanders were worthless.
2) PC detail sander, used it a few times and decided it just didn't do all
that much.
3) Sheet handling jig from Woodworkers Supply. It looked like a good idea
-- I loaded a sheet of plywood on it, as I went to re-orient, the sheet
twisted, broke loose, and bent up several parts of the jig. To their
credit, WWS took it back, I was only out the cost of shipping.



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700, wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or 2)
ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.


That's easy - the Ryobi detail sander. Otherwise known as a hand buzzer.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On 3/27/10 5:09 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700, wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or 2)
ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.


That's easy - the Ryobi detail sander. Otherwise known as a hand buzzer.

Looks like all detail sanders suck. PC, Ryobi, and my Dremel, any more
votes for these useless tools.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700, wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or 2)
ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.


That's easy - the Ryobi detail sander. Otherwise known as a hand buzzer.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw


I have one of those......somewhere.

Max

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
scrawled the following:

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700, wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or 2)
ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.


That's easy - the Ryobi detail sander. Otherwise known as a hand buzzer.

Isn't one of those doodads one of the least used attachments to the HF
Multifunction tool, guys? Leetle triangulah sandah?

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
scrawled the following:

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700, wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or 2)
ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.


That's easy - the Ryobi detail sander. Otherwise known as a hand buzzer.

Isn't one of those doodads one of the least used attachments to the HF
Multifunction tool, guys? Leetle triangulah sandah?

'Tis. I believe I still have some of the original sandpaper triangles that
came with my Fein. Blades, OTOH ...

On 3/27/2010 12:24 PM, wrote:

Your turn.

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted
my arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident looking
for a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!

It's for sale ... if anyone is interested!

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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Was this because Laguna or Festool didn't offer a miter saw stand?

"Swingman" wrote in message
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On 3/27/2010 12:24 PM, wrote:

Your turn.

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!

It's for sale ... if anyone is interested!

Hey watt can'I sayyy. It dent look like the pisher. ;~)

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!


I have this one and it's awesome.
http://xrl.us/mitersawstand


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:48:09 -0500, -MIKE- wrote:

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland
Woodworking or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon
literally twisted my arm and made me buy it! (I think he was
interested but needed to see what it looked like before he spent his
money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are
in an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident
looking for a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with
never a saw mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!


I have this one and it's awesome.
http://xrl.us/mitersawstand


I have one from HF that is similar. It has more pull out supports. I
wouldn't give up this table.

Paul T.

On 3/28/2010 12:48 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally
twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident
looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!


I have this one and it's awesome.
http://xrl.us/mitersawstand

One of my trim carpenters has the Ridgid. He added a couple of
reinforcing welds before he got it to his perfect satisfaction, but
loves it.

I messed with it a bit on the last job and have to admit that it's the
best one I've operated in use thus far. Very easy to fold up and transport.

Mine is shop made and a PITA to move, but works well when stationary,
which is what it is designed for, although it works well onsite on a
couple of sawhorses. Takes up too much room in the shop though.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:28:02 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 3/28/2010 12:48 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally
twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident
looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!


I have this one and it's awesome.
http://xrl.us/mitersawstand

One of my trim carpenters has the Ridgid. He added a couple of
reinforcing welds before he got it to his perfect satisfaction, but
loves it.

I messed with it a bit on the last job and have to admit that it's the
best one I've operated in use thus far. Very easy to fold up and transport.

Mine is shop made and a PITA to move, but works well when stationary,
which is what it is designed for, although it works well onsite on a
couple of sawhorses. Takes up too much room in the shop though.

I have a Dewalt stand for my (HF) SCMS[*] It's rather nice and a couple of
extra flanges makes it simple matter to change tools. I also have the Delta
stand that I use for my DW735 planer.
[*] It's on the replacement short list

On 3/28/10 8:28 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/28/2010 12:48 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland
Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally
twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels
are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident
looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!


I have this one and it's awesome.
http://xrl.us/mitersawstand

One of my trim carpenters has the Ridgid. He added a couple of
reinforcing welds before he got it to his perfect satisfaction, but
loves it.

I messed with it a bit on the last job and have to admit that it's the
best one I've operated in use thus far. Very easy to fold up and transport.


Yeah, soon after pinching my hand *once,* I fell in love with it.
The best part is the shock that takes all the weight of the saw falling
down when it folds up. I added a couple casters to the top/handle end,
so it would roll, flat, into my minivan.



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:38:41 -0500, Swingman wrote:
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted
my arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what it looked like before he spent his money!)

Dang that Leon guy eh? Do the smart thing. Wrap it up and give it to
him for a birthday or Christmas present.

On 3/28/2010 5:36 AM, Upscale wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:38:41 -0500, wrote:
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted
my arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see
what it looked like before he spent his money!)

Dang that Leon guy eh? Do the smart thing. Wrap it up and give it to
him for a birthday or Christmas present.



Have tried similar ploys with Leon ... he just gives it right back to
you on your next birthday/Christmas.

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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
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On 3/27/2010 12:24 PM, wrote:

Your turn.

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!

It's for sale ... if anyone is interested!

--

With *that* sales pitch??? Nah, I think I'll pass.

BTW, chuck my vote in on the triangular head detail sander/hand buzzer...

jc

"Swingman" wrote in message
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On 3/27/2010 12:24 PM, wrote:

Your turn.

Not a tool, but a "Craftsman" miter saw stand, from Highland Woodworking
or somesuch, $149.99 on closeout for 39.99, and Leon literally twisted my
arm and made me buy it! (I think he was interested but needed to see what
it looked like before he spent his money!)

Anyhow, the rubber feet wouldn't fit the tubular legs, the wheels are in
an awkward place, and the whole thing is basically an accident looking for
a place to happen ... it's been stored in a corner with never a saw
mounted on it yet.

Leon took one look at it, up went his nose, and immediately wanted to
know why I would ever, fergawrdssakes, buy such a thing?!

It's for sale ... if anyone is interested!

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

I've Ridgid's/Rigid's MSUV (Mitre Saw Utility Vehicle, or something like
that) and I can't say enough good things about it. Sturdy, breaks down/moves
easily, never had a prob with it. If I hadn't built a rolling cart for my
yellow planer, I'd buy one for it as well.

On Mar 27, 1:24*pm, "
wrote:
Ok, here's my contribution to *more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

My worst tool buy was a Skill 1/4 sheet orbital sander. The spring
loaded clamps which were used to mount the sandpaper were better
suited to break finger nails, and vibrate the nrves in your arm.
Finally just tossed it.

Note to Swingman;
The ill fitting rubber crutch tips which don't quite fit the legs of
those saw stands can be gotten on if you boil the tips. That softens
them enough to squeeze them on.
Joe G

"GROVER" wrote in message
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On Mar 27, 1:24 pm, "
wrote:
Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

My worst tool buy was a Skill 1/4 sheet orbital sander. The spring
loaded clamps which were used to mount the sandpaper were better
suited to break finger nails, and vibrate the nrves in your arm.
Finally just tossed it.

Note to Swingman;
The ill fitting rubber crutch tips which don't quite fit the legs of
those saw stands can be gotten on if you boil the tips. That softens
them enough to squeeze them on.


Naw those things were pretty HD, IIRC about 1/4" thick there was not going
to be any rolling. ;~) He did get to use them as guards. He put one on
the end of his BS fence front guide. Another made a handy glue brush water
container.

On 3/27/2010 7:00 PM, GROVER wrote:

Note to Swingman;
The ill fitting rubber crutch tips which don't quite fit the legs of
those saw stands can be gotten on if you boil the tips. That softens
them enough to squeeze them on.

Not in this case ... you'd have better luck getting a hammer handle up a
gnats ass.

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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Ok, here's my contribution to more woodworking set of topics:

We just had a thread about favorite tool, here's the alternative:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

Here's mine:

Years ago, I bought a guide for cutting sheets of plywood. Cost me
over
$100 and I only used it once. I still have it.

Your turn.

MJ

Xmas gift of a B&D electric adjustable cresent wrench. Total piece of
crap other then watching the jaw go in and out.

Mike M

On 3/27/2010 12:24 PM, wrote:

What tool did you buy, that 1) you never used beyond once or twice or
2) ended up being worthless and you kept it anyway.

[With apologies to MJ because I accidentally sent 1st response directly
to him.]

Back in '75 I bought a B&D circular saw and a B&D jig saw - and I still
have both. I've probably used the circular saw 4 or 5 times and the jig
saw only once.

Bought 'em because they were cheap and don't use 'em because they're
/too/ cheap. Their primary value is as reminders to not repeat that mistake.


--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/