I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

On Jan 9, 12:44*pm, GarageWoodworks
wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? *This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brianwww.garagewoodworks.com

get a piece of predrilled masonite (used for hanging tools) to use as
a template
shelly

On Jan 9, 12:54*pm, wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:44*pm, GarageWoodworks
wrote:

I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? *This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brianwww.garagewoodworks.com

get a piece of predrilled masonite (used for hanging tools) to use as
a template
shelly

Nice. Neat idea. Hmmmm.

On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:54:11 -0800, smandel wrote:

On Jan 9, 12:44Â*pm, GarageWoodworks wrote:

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. Â*I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.



get a piece of predrilled masonite (used for hanging tools) to use as a
template

Yes, but be careful. I once used a piece and found out a row here and
there were a little off. Must have slipped during the drilling process.
Not a problem if you know about it but I only found out when done :-(.

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On 1/9/2010 11:54 AM, wrote:

get a piece of predrilled masonite (used for hanging tools) to use as
a template
shelly

Only in a dire emergency ... not only will the holes wear out quickly
from drilling and become inaccurate, but there are not necessary
consistent in level.

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KarlC@ (the obvious)

get a piece of predrilled masonite (used for hanging tools) to use as
a template
shelly

This is what I usually do. Mark top and bottom and any edge index
marks you need. Clamp in place.

Cheap and often available in the scrap bin.

RonB

"GarageWoodworks" wrote in message
...
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

On Jan 9, 12:58*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"GarageWoodworks" wrote in message

...

I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? *This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. *I have been using this jig for about 12 years. *comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. *Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

What are your thoughts on the 1/4" dowel. Should do it right?

"GarageWoodworks" wrote in message
...
On Jan 9, 12:58 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"GarageWoodworks" wrote in message

...

I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many
cases.http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

What are your thoughts on the 1/4" dowel. Should do it right?


Yes you can use a dowel but I use the 1/4" hooks.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...r=shelf%20pins

They will not fall out when the shelf is in place and most of the pin does
not show.

In article , "Leon" wrote:

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

Not only that.... if that one isn't large enough, if you have a drill press
with a table, you can make your own. Make a jig to make a jig: set the fence
to, say, 2" from the bit, set a piece of scrap plywood against the fence, and
drill a hole in it the size of the collar on your Vix bit. (For a 1/4" bit,
that's 3/8".) Move the plywood by the distance you want between the shelf pin
holes, and clamp it to the table. This is your jig for making a jig.

Now lay the actual jig over the plywood, and position it where you want the
first shelf-pin hole to be. Drill. Put a 3/8" dowel in the first hole you
drilled in the plywood. Slide the jig over, and slip the hole you just drilled
in it over the dowel in the plywood. Drill another hole. Repeat.

On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:58:17 -0600, "Leon"
wrote:

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig



That's the one we use. We didn't think we would use it much but
bought it because it wasn't a whole lot more than just buying the self
centering bit. We use it all the time. We also made a longer one out
of 1/4" plexi for use on tall bookcases that takes the same Rockler
bits. It saves a little time over re-setting the Jig-It 2 or 3 times
on a side.

Mike O.

"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message
news:090120101232560780%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca...

www.garagewoodworks.com

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

See also http://www.plansnow.com/100108download.html

the beauty to the Rockler jig is that the bit is self centering and does
not/has not damaged the holes in 12 years od use.

On 1/9/2010 12:38 PM, Leon wrote:
"Dave wrote in message
news:090120101232560780%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca...

www.garagewoodworks.com

This is relatively inexpensive and much simpler than using a router like
Norm uses. I have been using this jig for about 12 years. comes with a
special Vix type bit that IIRC uses a brad point style bit. Can be used
before or after assembly in many cases.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...er=shelf%20jig

See alsohttp://www.plansnow.com/100108download.html

the beauty to the Rockler jig is that the bit is self centering and does
not/has not damaged the holes in 12 years od use.

I have the Rockler jig too. Works like a champ.

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than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
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On 1/9/2010 11:44 AM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.


Done it every way possible, both drill and router.

I'm with Leon ... the Rockler jig, or a similar brand, with the vix bit,
is the cat's meow. I've made similar one's out of plexiglass and 1/4 mdf
on the drill press in a pinch.

--
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Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jan 9, 1:57*pm, Swingman wrote:
On 1/9/2010 11:44 AM, GarageWoodworks wrote:

I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Done it every way possible, both drill and router.

I'm with Leon ... the Rockler jig, or a similar brand, with the vix bit,
is the cat's meow. I've made similar one's out of plexiglass and 1/4 mdf
on the drill press in a pinch.

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

I use to have a Rockler here down the street, but they closed up
shop. :^(
I need to place an order for next time.

GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

I prefer steel KV clips.

As far as the holes go, I use a plunge router with a 1/4" bit and a 3/8
bushing. Years ago I carefully laid out a hole spacing pattern and drilled
3/8" holes with a drill press in a piece of 1/2" mel board. That board has
overlaps on the edge to register it the desired distance on whatever I am
making holes in. I've used it for 1000s of holes.

I prefer a router to a drill because the holes wind up perpendicular without
any effort. It is also fast...turn on router, release plunge clamp, stick
in hole, push down, lift up, move to next hole.

I used 1/2" mel board to keep router bit length to a mimimum. Over the
years, the holes have become a bit edge rounded from the bushing insertions
but that doesn't matter as the interior of the hole is fine.

--

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On 1/9/2010 11:44 AM, GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.


Done it every way possible, both drill and router.

I'm with Leon ... the Rockler jig, or a similar brand, with the vix bit,
is the cat's meow. I've made similar one's out of plexiglass and 1/4 mdf
on the drill press in a pinch.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jan 9, 12:44*pm, GarageWoodworks
wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? *This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brianwww.garagewoodworks.com

Our fine folks at FastCap sell adhesive tape with 32 mm marks printed
on it. Handy if you don't have a lot of them to do.

"GarageWoodworks" wrote in message
...
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

I also have the Rockler one. Works great. I just use my battery drill. WW

GarageWoodworks wrote:

I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

At the risk of sounding like a philistine and cheap, I've always used a
piece of pegboard (1/4" holes) cut to fit in the case. Registered to the
bottom with a square cut to ensure that the holes are parallel to the case
and using a drill bit with either a stop collar or a piece of tape for depth
control.

Simple, fast, cheap if you aren't doing lots of shelves


--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Jan 9, 11:53*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. *I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. *I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? *This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

* At the risk of sounding like a philistine and cheap, I've always used a
piece of pegboard (1/4" holes) cut to fit in the case. * Registered to the
bottom with a square cut to ensure that the holes are parallel to the case
and using a drill bit with either a stop collar or a piece of tape for depth
control.

* Simple, fast, cheap if you aren't doing lots of shelves


Are you a tight-a**ed Irishman too?

Related to one?

Scottish too, but we won't claim them right away.

RonB wrote:

On Jan 9, 11:53Â*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. Â*I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. Â*I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? Â*This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com

At the risk of sounding like a philistine and cheap, I've always used a
piece of pegboard (1/4" holes) cut to fit in the case. Â* Registered to
the bottom with a square cut to ensure that the holes are parallel to the
case and using a drill bit with either a stop collar or a piece of tape
for depth control.

Simple, fast, cheap if you aren't doing lots of shelves


Are you a tight-a**ed Irishman too?

Related to one?

Scottish too, but we won't claim them right away.

Nope, stubborn German. We've gotta be convinced it's worth spending money
also.



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

Here is the cheap(er) version of the same jig Norm
did use:

http://www.megproducts.com/basic-bore32.html

GarageWoodworks wrote:
I'm gonna brave the cold shop today. I might get to the shelf pin
holes sometime this weekend on a project im working on.

Looking for any tips/tricks for making consistent shelf pin holes down
a post. I have seen Nahmie use a jig before that he uses to line up
the holes with a shelf pin as he moves down the post.

Got a favorite method?

Also, 1/4" dowels should do the trick in each corner right? This case
is going to be loaded down pretty good I hear.

Thanks as always,
Brian
www.garagewoodworks.com