Ordered the smaller CNC shark. For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...


-Kevin

On Nov 25, 11:47*am, Kevin wrote:
Ordered the smaller CNC shark. *For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. *I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun *I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

-Kevin

Congrats, those things are a blast!

Can you say: "Slippery slope?"

Hey MORRIS!! We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

On Nov 25, 11:47*am, Kevin wrote:
Ordered the smaller CNC shark. *For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. *I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun *I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

-Kevin

Congrats, those things are a blast!

Can you say: "Slippery slope?"

Hey MORRIS!! We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

Now that he's hooked, it won't be long before he's he
http://fwd4.me/63N , or even he http://fwd4.me/63K

--
Q: How many climate scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. There's a consensus that it's going to change, so they've
decided to keep us in the dark.

On Nov 27, 10:00*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:





On Nov 25, 11:47*am, Kevin wrote:
Ordered the smaller CNC shark. *For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. *I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun *I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

-Kevin

Congrats, those things are a blast!

Can you say: "Slippery slope?"

Hey MORRIS!! *We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

Now that he's hooked, it won't be long before he's hehttp://fwd4.me/63N, or even hehttp://fwd4.me/63K

--
Q: How many climate scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. There's a consensus that it's going to change, so they've
decided to keep us in the dark.

In all seriousness... what else are going to buy for $60K that does as
much as that does? (Aside from the fact that a $ 30K machine will
almost do it all.) Football, Ballet...

Robatoy wrote:

In all seriousness... what else are going to buy for $60K that does as
much as that does? (Aside from the fact that a $ 30K machine will
almost do it all.) Football, Ballet...

How good can they be? Neither of those machines can spin a rubber chicken!

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Not to **** on anyone's Wheaties....

I've seen these sub-$5k cnc machines at woodcraft and woodworking
shows and the results always look pretty lousy.
I can only describe it as woodworking's equivalent to the dot-matrix
printer.

To those who know, those who've used them.... I ask, are they doing
something wrong that makes the "carving" look so cheap? Are there some
sort of resolution settings on the machine or are they using too soft of
wood or what?

Like I said, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I honestly want to know. I've
considered the possibility of using one to carve a logo in drum shells.
But if they would end up looking like the samples I've seen at their
displays, no thanks.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:22:49 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

On Nov 27, 10:00*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:





On Nov 25, 11:47*am, Kevin wrote:
Ordered the smaller CNC shark. *For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. *I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun *I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

-Kevin

Congrats, those things are a blast!

Can you say: "Slippery slope?"

Hey MORRIS!! *We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

Now that he's hooked, it won't be long before he's hehttp://fwd4.me/63N, or even hehttp://fwd4.me/63K

--
Q: How many climate scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. There's a consensus that it's going to change, so they've
decided to keep us in the dark.

In all seriousness... what else are going to buy for $60K that does as
much as that does? (Aside from the fact that a $ 30K machine will
almost do it all.) Football, Ballet...

I'd sure rather have one of those nice Laguna CNCs than a stupid
Beemer.

--
Q: How many climate scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. There's a consensus that it's going to change, so they've
decided to keep us in the dark.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:00:08 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

Hey MORRIS!! We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

Now that he's hooked, it won't be long before he's he
http://fwd4.me/63N , or even he http://fwd4.me/63K

For 60k it better come with Kate Hudson


-Kevin

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:43:47 -0500, the infamous Kevin
scrawled the following:

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:00:08 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

Hey MORRIS!! We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

Now that he's hooked, it won't be long before he's he
http://fwd4.me/63N , or even he http://fwd4.me/63K

For 60k it better come with Kate Hudson

I've love^H^H^Husted after that woman since "Almost Famous"!

--
Q: How many climate scientists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None. There's a consensus that it's going to change, so they've
decided to keep us in the dark.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:48 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
wrote:

On Nov 25, 11:47*am, Kevin wrote:
Ordered the smaller CNC shark. *For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. *I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun *I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

-Kevin

Congrats, those things are a blast!

Can you say: "Slippery slope?"

Hey MORRIS!! We got another one!! Bwuahahahaha *diabolical laughter*

May as well pick your brains while I'm at it. I need to order some
end mills and I'm wondering what size range I ought to have. I'm
limited to the 1/4" collet of the Colt so nothing bigger than that.
1/4" and 1/8" ought to cover most everything for a straight cutter but
how small do I need to have for ball end for detail 3D work?

I found one source that said using a split 1/8 to 1/4 adapter
increases runout and they offer a pressed on bushing that they say is
better. Any merit to that?

I haven't googled this one yet, but is there a table somewhere for
feedrate vs diameter and cutting depth?

I'm at a bit of a loss as far as how to price cnc work. There's
design time and that's straightforward enough, but what about running
time on the cnc?

-Kevin

Kevin wrote:

May as well pick your brains while I'm at it. I need to order some
end mills and I'm wondering what size range I ought to have. I'm
limited to the 1/4" collet of the Colt so nothing bigger than that.
1/4" and 1/8" ought to cover most everything for a straight cutter but
how small do I need to have for ball end for detail 3D work?

That depends on the fineness of the detail. Most of the end mills I've
seen smaller than 1/8" still have 1/8" shanks, so once you have your
collet adapter, you can go about as fine as you like. My KBC Tools
catalog list ball end mills with diameters down to 1/64", and I'd guess
that you should be able to find 1/128 with a bit of looking.

I found one source that said using a split 1/8 to 1/4 adapter
increases runout and they offer a pressed on bushing that they say is
better. Any merit to that?

Perhaps. I think I'd have to wonder if the increase is significant in
the work you do - after all, there isn't any /perfect/ tooling.

I haven't googled this one yet, but is there a table somewhere for
feedrate vs diameter and cutting depth?

There's also RPM and number of flutes that need to be considered along
with diameter.

I'm at a bit of a loss as far as how to price cnc work. There's
design time and that's straightforward enough, but what about running
time on the cnc?

Most of the guys I know doing custom CNC routing bill somewhere between
$50 and $75/hour for machine time.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:31:31 -0600, Morris Dovey
wrote:


I haven't googled this one yet, but is there a table somewhere for
feedrate vs diameter and cutting depth?

There's also RPM and number of flutes that need to be considered along
with diameter.

Thanks, that narrows it down :P

I'm at a bit of a loss as far as how to price cnc work. There's
design time and that's straightforward enough, but what about running
time on the cnc?

Most of the guys I know doing custom CNC routing bill somewhere between
$50 and $75/hour for machine time.

Great, so the robot makes more than I do. Well, I suppose it's more
accurate and doesn't spend half the day putzing around when it ought
to be working.


-Kevin

Kevin wrote:

Ordered the smaller CNC shark. For the type of stuff I do the small
one is going to work fine, and will actually fit in the shop. I was
going to put a planer in that spot but this is going to be way more
fun I don't even want to think about how much more I'm going to
have to spend (time & money) to get full use out of it though...

Now I have to go build a cabinet for it...

Way cool! It'll add a lot to your enjoyment of woodworking.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/