On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

Tue, Mar 9, 2004, 11:20pm (EST+5) (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
snip spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) snip

Homer, you can be doing other things while the coats dry. It
wouldn't be right to charge for drying time. I don't include any paint,
or finish, drying time as work time. Of course, I'm not on the left
coast either.

JOAT
That the peope have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves
and the state.
- Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/

based soley on the time, and your description, west coast billing, 200$
doesnt sound unreasonable for either party. 300 would be better, but more
than that and i think you mad out like a bandit. less than 150 and i bet
you get another call within a week or two from that guys friend wanting the
same lowball job.

wait this is san francisco.. double everything i said, those were seattle
prices g

randy

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
...
buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

ok, then what would you price that job at? Every time I see how little
guys pay for wood anywhere but here I think I should have moved before
taking up this craft. How about $2.60 for gas?

dave

B a r r y wrote:

On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:20:05 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:



Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!



Lest I remind you that some parts of the east coast are pretty similar
to your area. For instance the strip from NYC to Boston, and about 75
miles north and south of it. The DC area ain't exactly cheap, either.

Barry

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

I'd probably charge a minimum plus a per foot charge. Something like $75
plus two beer per foot.

haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

Bob S. wrote:

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

Bob S. wrote:

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

"Bay Area Dave" writes:

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.

You want me to screw around with somebody else's stuff it's $900/8 hr day or
$500/4 hrs, portal to portal.

You got that right, you're paying for my driving time as well as for my
skill to do the work.

Also add $25 fuel charge to cover that $2.00/gallon gasoline.

HTH



--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

A way of saying "why are you asking? Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

Prevailing wage, anyone?

"xrongor" wrote in message
news:z5u3c.530427$na.1280099@attbi_s04...
huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
...
buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys
charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT
fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

Bitburg........;-)

Bob S.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
haven't seen a pfennig since I left Wiesbaden. I presume that's what
you meant? Deutsche Marks and all that jazz.

dave

Hey Dave,

One of the best ways to calculate hourly rate, is based on your costs.
Doesn't matter where you live.

Take into account how many ft your shop is, and what it would cost you to
rent or pay a mortgage for that shop (if you aren't already).

Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business. If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k / 160
hours per month )

In my shop, it doesn't matter what the task is, designing, mock-up, stock
prep, finishing or delivery etc....I still charge my hourly rate.

Cheers,

aw

"Bob S." wrote in news:uZE3c.19167$KB.14437
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Bitburg........;-)

Spangdahlem.

in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:
A way of saying "why are you asking? Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

Prevailing wage, anyone?

"xrongor" wrote in message
news:z5u3c.530427$na.1280099@attbi_s04...

huh?

whats a 'buck-three-ninety-eight'? is that iraq currency or something?

randy

"Bob S." wrote in message
. ..

buck-three-ninety-eight per lineal foot and not a pfenning less...

http://www.thebluebook.com/ not exactly what you're looking for but you
could always call one in the listing and ask for a quote.

Bob S.


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys

charge

for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT

fee

(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:

I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

"A Dubya" wrote in message
Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business.
If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k /
160
hours per month )

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered


In my shop, it doesn't matter what the task is, designing, mock-up, stock
prep, finishing or delivery etc....I still charge my hourly rate.

Some shops charge different rates for different skill levels, but in a one
man shop, it makes no difference. Others play games. No charge for
delivery, but you are paying the "free" delivery charges in the product
cost.

Most people think you are charging them an astronomical rate. They earn
maybe $15/hour and figure the rest of the world should too. They do not
realize they are earning far more than that when you include benefits,
vacation time, SS tax, etc. Right now my company paid health care is over $4
an hour. Figure in the paid holidays and vacation, etc.
Ed

No offence, but sounds to me like the customer picked the wrong guy, from
what you wrote there wasn't any woodwork involved, sounds more like a job
for a painter/decorator, unless it's some special finish. In quality
cabinet work finishing takes a lot of time, I spoke to a small specialist
manufacturer about some chairs at a crafts show, the price was half if I
wanted to finish them myself.

Bernard R

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

(J T) wrote in message ...
Tue, Mar 9, 2004, 11:20pm (EST+5) (Bay Area Dave)
snip spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) snip

Homer, you can be doing other things while the coats dry. It
wouldn't be right to charge for drying time. I don't include any paint,
or finish, drying time as work time. Of course, I'm not on the left
coast either.

I disagree. Depending on his shop setup he may not be able do any
other work while the coats dry. Even if he had a separate finish room
he probably wouldn't be able to do any other finishing without causing
problems.

Of course, I'm just an occassional weekend woodworker so what do I
know? g
--
Jim

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered

lmao....I wish

Some shops charge different rates for different skill levels, but in a one
man shop, it makes no difference. Others play games. No charge for
delivery, but you are paying the "free" delivery charges in the product
cost.

Most people think you are charging them an astronomical rate. They earn
maybe $15/hour and figure the rest of the world should too. They do not
realize they are earning far more than that when you include benefits,
vacation time, SS tax, etc. Right now my company paid health care is over
$4
an hour. Figure in the paid holidays and vacation, etc.
Ed



The people that question hourly shop rates, are people that don't know your
work, and are easier to deal with if there are a couple of finished pieces
in the shop, and you remind them what the local plumber or electrician is
charging per hour.

I keep the local IKEA phone number handy, anyone trying to get me to compete
with a price, I give them the IKEA phone #, and tell them "call this guy,
he's competitive".

Cheers,

aw

Actually, having used the nonsense expression "buck three eighty" for years,
I know it's a nonsense response to a nonsense question. It's nonsense for
anyone to say what a job's worth other than the one what done it.

Now do you get it?

That said, take a look at the remaining quote. That's my answer to those
kinds of jobs, if you care.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:
Charge what you would if you had to
do it again tomorrow."

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:08:06 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"A Dubya" wrote in message
Calculate monthly hydro, taxes, maintainance, consumables and equipment
replacement cost. All this sounds like work but, business is business.
If
you were paying $1000/m to rent your shop, $1000/m to rent/lease/loan for
tools, $1000/m for hydro/tax/consumables and had to take home $5000/m to
keep the wife supplied with bon bons, you'd need to be at $50/h ($8k /
160
hours per month )

Far easier to charge $8000 for the first job of the month and then you are
covered



say once you get that first job done, can you come over and help me
out with a few things?

Mace B.....

Bob S.


"Joe Willmann" wrote in message
.77...
"Bob S." wrote in news:uZE3c.19167$KB.14437
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Bitburg........;-)

Spangdahlem.

no I DON'T get it. I was curious what guys around my area would charge
for the job I listed. pure and simple.

take care, George.

dave

George wrote:

Actually, having used the nonsense expression "buck three eighty" for years,
I know it's a nonsense response to a nonsense question. It's nonsense for
anyone to say what a job's worth other than the one what done it.

Now do you get it?

That said, take a look at the remaining quote. That's my answer to those
kinds of jobs, if you care.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to

do it again tomorrow."

ok, Dave. What did you charge????


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
no I DON'T get it. I was curious what guys around my area would charge
for the job I listed. pure and simple.

take care, George.

dave

George wrote:

Actually, having used the nonsense expression "buck three eighty" for
years,
I know it's a nonsense response to a nonsense question. It's nonsense
for
anyone to say what a job's worth other than the one what done it.

Now do you get it?

That said, take a look at the remaining quote. That's my answer to
those
kinds of jobs, if you care.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to

do it again tomorrow."

Last try.

If you knew you might have to do the same the next day, would you:

1) not do it for any price

2) demand a high price to discourage repeats because it's a pain in the ass

3) work for an average local hourly rate because it's just a job

4) do for a lower rate, because it's really a cinch and you wouldn't mind
doing it again

5) work for nothing, because friendship is worth more than bucks

When you ask for an opinion, that's what you get.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
no I DON'T get it.

I was curious what guys around my area would charge

George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to

do it again tomorrow."

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:

I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...

On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

Tell him "I need about tree fiddy".


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

"George" wrote in message
...
Last try.

If you knew you might have to do the same the next day, would you:

1) not do it for any price

2) demand a high price to discourage repeats because it's a pain in the
ass

3) work for an average local hourly rate because it's just a job

4) do for a lower rate, because it's really a cinch and you wouldn't mind
doing it again

5) work for nothing, because friendship is worth more than bucks

When you ask for an opinion, that's what you get.

Along with some excellent free advice!



"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
no I DON'T get it.

I was curious what guys around my area would charge

George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to

do it again tomorrow."

How about $2.60 for gas?

You've got us beat there, but we're usually close. We had a friend
of ours in for the weekend who works for Google out there. We were
doing a lot of price comparisons. G

Barry

The Boston area is just as expensive as the Bay Area. I just checked the
Real estate listings in my town, Lexington MA, and there are 92 houses for
sale with a median price of 949K and a mean price of 1085k. And that’s
just a suburb. The gas is a little cheaper here but many of us will burn
1000 gal of oil just to keep warm this winter. I don't expect to use that
many gallons of gas this year. My office mate moved to Boston from the Bay
area six months ago and he says both places are equally expensive. After
this winter, I'd like to move to Hawaii...

-Scott

can't tell until I get 3 honest guys to answer MY question first. So
far no one has come forward.

dave

Mike in Mystic wrote:

ok, Dave. What did you charge????


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

no I DON'T get it. I was curious what guys around my area would charge
for the job I listed. pure and simple.

take care, George.

dave

George wrote:


Actually, having used the nonsense expression "buck three eighty" for

years,

I know it's a nonsense response to a nonsense question. It's nonsense

for

anyone to say what a job's worth other than the one what done it.

Now do you get it?

That said, take a look at the remaining quote. That's my answer to

those

kinds of jobs, if you care.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
gy.com...


in other words you don't have a clue.

dave

George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to


do it again tomorrow."

in other words, you don't have a clue what to charge?

dave

George wrote:

Last try.

If you knew you might have to do the same the next day, would you:

1) not do it for any price

2) demand a high price to discourage repeats because it's a pain in the ass

3) work for an average local hourly rate because it's just a job

4) do for a lower rate, because it's really a cinch and you wouldn't mind
doing it again

5) work for nothing, because friendship is worth more than bucks

When you ask for an opinion, that's what you get.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

no I DON'T get it.


I was curious what guys around my area would charge


George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to


do it again tomorrow."

not necessarily...

dave

Rumpty wrote:

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw, Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:


I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...


On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

then why live there, Scott? It is so humid! Today the humidity is
30 percent. highs in the 80's. Love it!

dave

Scott Duncan wrote:

How about $2.60 for gas?

You've got us beat there, but we're usually close. We had a friend
of ours in for the weekend who works for Google out there. We were
doing a lot of price comparisons. G

Barry


The Boston area is just as expensive as the Bay Area. I just checked the
Real estate listings in my town, Lexington MA, and there are 92 houses for
sale with a median price of 949K and a mean price of 1085k. And that’s
just a suburb. The gas is a little cheaper here but many of us will burn
1000 gal of oil just to keep warm this winter. I don't expect to use that
many gallons of gas this year. My office mate moved to Boston from the Bay
area six months ago and he says both places are equally expensive. After
this winter, I'd like to move to Hawaii...

-Scott

About a buck seventy five thereabouts.

Jim


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
m...
On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?

do you charge less for finishing when you were commissioned to do a
piece, or is that just buried in the price.

I picked up some material for someone (that's 45 minutes of my time),
spent 2 hours (on and off, waiting to the coats to dry) finishing, and
will need about 45 minutes for a round trip of 24 miles to deliver the
finished material. Total time invested around 3 1/2 hours but it's not
really 3 1/2 hours of SOLID work. (clean up time is included)

customer pays for the material (baseboards). customer will pay for my
finishing materials (only about $10-12)

I've already set a price.

I'm just curious what you guys would charge for sanding, sealing, 3 top
coats on 63 feet of 2 5/8 baseboard, including the driving time I
mentioned for materials pick-up and delivery to customer.

Bear in mind, don't give me midwest or east coast pricing. this is the
land of the top dollar. which is why when we retire, we are getting the
heck outta here!!

I'll post what I billed AFTER I see what you guys think. don't want to
sway your opinions.


dave

come on dave, we're trying to help you but you keep shooting everyone down.
you claimed it really wanst that big or hard of a job for you. i tossed out
some numbers, but in the end we're all guessing what you think your time is
worth which is really the only thing that matters. four hours and nominal
material cost. figure out your hourly rate and multiply. since it seems it
was a fairly easy job, 50 an hour seems reasonable and i dont think anyone
would disagree except to say you should have charged more. which again
comes down to the question how much is YOUR time worth.

im afraid your next question is gonna be how much should bill them for the
time you've spent worrying about how much you should have billed them..

spit it out man, what did you charge? too little is my guess..

randy

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
in other words, you don't have a clue what to charge?

dave

George wrote:

Last try.

If you knew you might have to do the same the next day, would you:

1) not do it for any price

2) demand a high price to discourage repeats because it's a pain in the
ass

3) work for an average local hourly rate because it's just a job

4) do for a lower rate, because it's really a cinch and you wouldn't
mind
doing it again

5) work for nothing, because friendship is worth more than bucks

When you ask for an opinion, that's what you get.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

no I DON'T get it.


I was curious what guys around my area would charge


George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to


do it again tomorrow."

can't tell until I get 3 honest guys to answer MY question first. So
far no one has come forward.

90 minute drive plus 40 minutes finishing, or 2.1 hr * 50/hr = $105 and I
still wouldn't take this job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
om...
can't tell until I get 3 honest guys to answer MY question first. So
far no one has come forward.

dave

Mike in Mystic wrote:

50 an hour seems reasonable

True, but how long did it take ole BAD to finish this moulding? There isn't
an hour in this job.

BTW I still wouldn't take this job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"xrongor" wrote in message
news:WZQ3c.2650$YG.28564@attbi_s01...
come on dave, we're trying to help you but you keep shooting everyone
down.
you claimed it really wanst that big or hard of a job for you. i tossed
out
some numbers, but in the end we're all guessing what you think your time
is
worth which is really the only thing that matters. four hours and nominal
material cost. figure out your hourly rate and multiply. since it seems
it
was a fairly easy job, 50 an hour seems reasonable and i dont think anyone
would disagree except to say you should have charged more. which again
comes down to the question how much is YOUR time worth.

im afraid your next question is gonna be how much should bill them for the
time you've spent worrying about how much you should have billed them..

spit it out man, what did you charge? too little is my guess..

randy

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
in other words, you don't have a clue what to charge?

dave

George wrote:

Last try.

If you knew you might have to do the same the next day, would you:

1) not do it for any price

2) demand a high price to discourage repeats because it's a pain in
the
ass

3) work for an average local hourly rate because it's just a job

4) do for a lower rate, because it's really a cinch and you wouldn't
mind
doing it again

5) work for nothing, because friendship is worth more than bucks

When you ask for an opinion, that's what you get.

"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

no I DON'T get it.


I was curious what guys around my area would charge


George wrote:

Charge what you would if you had to


do it again tomorrow."

not necessarily...

It's a 40 minute job without the drive time. That's 33.30 for the job. I
rather take the same time and drive down to the Exxon station for a hot dog
and a Dr. Pepper.

FWIW, that same time to finish the moulding I finish a $600 coffee table.
Mustard, onion and relish?

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...
not necessarily...

dave

Rumpty wrote:

No, it's because you can't make a PROFIT finishing 63' of moulding
including
90 minutes delivery. Simple.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
. com...

that's because you can't lay a finish on with a remedial arm saw,
Rumpty!

dave

Rumpty wrote:


I wouldna taken the job.

--

Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message
.com...


On the west coast (where EVERYTHING costs more) what do you guys
charge
for finishing something that you didn't build. do you charge a FLAT
fee
(how much -- give an example please) or per hour plus materials?