On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Phisherman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0400, "Ed Edelenbos"
wrote:

Ok, so one of batteries for my Ryobi 14.4 battery is dying. One
died a couple years ago and I replaced it then. I've had the drill
for around 5 or 6 years and done mostly home projects with it. I've
been (overall) happy with the battery life (ie time between charges)
and power. I can order a replacement battery for around $50 or I
can upgrade. This is my 2nd generation of Ryobi and I've been
pretty happy with their stuff. Of course in 5 or 6 years,
technology has advanced a bunch and there are new names in the
market.

What are the suggestions for 18v (or 19.2v???) drills? I'm not
really interested in saws and all the other stuff, just a decent
drill.


I recommend a corded Milwaulkee drill. It will last a lifetime and
won't run out of power. There are better brands than Ryobi. A 14
volt is about right for general purpose.

I had a corded Milwaukee and finally gave it away because I wasn't using it
anymore and didn't want to see it just gathering dust.


My second (and last) cordless is somewhere in a landfill.

"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Yep, if you're just boring straight holes and keep the RPM down it works
fine.

Phisherman wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Phisherman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0400, "Ed Edelenbos"
wrote:

Ok, so one of batteries for my Ryobi 14.4 battery is dying. One
died a couple years ago and I replaced it then. I've had the drill
for around 5 or 6 years and done mostly home projects with it.
I've been (overall) happy with the battery life (ie time between
charges) and power. I can order a replacement battery for around
$50 or I can upgrade. This is my 2nd generation of Ryobi and I've
been pretty happy with their stuff. Of course in 5 or 6 years,
technology has advanced a bunch and there are new names in the
market.

What are the suggestions for 18v (or 19.2v???) drills? I'm not
really interested in saws and all the other stuff, just a decent
drill.


I recommend a corded Milwaulkee drill. It will last a lifetime and
won't run out of power. There are better brands than Ryobi. A 14
volt is about right for general purpose.

I had a corded Milwaukee and finally gave it away because I wasn't
using it anymore and didn't want to see it just gathering dust.


My second (and last) cordless is somewhere in a landfill.

I am curious as to what you do with your drills that an 18v cordless won't
handle.

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Yep, if you're just boring straight holes and keep the RPM down it works
fine.



What insures straight?

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
Phisherman wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Phisherman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0400, "Ed Edelenbos"
wrote:

Ok, so one of batteries for my Ryobi 14.4 battery is dying. One
died a couple years ago and I replaced it then. I've had the drill
for around 5 or 6 years and done mostly home projects with it.
I've been (overall) happy with the battery life (ie time between
charges) and power. I can order a replacement battery for around
$50 or I can upgrade. This is my 2nd generation of Ryobi and I've
been pretty happy with their stuff. Of course in 5 or 6 years,
technology has advanced a bunch and there are new names in the
market.

What are the suggestions for 18v (or 19.2v???) drills? I'm not
really interested in saws and all the other stuff, just a decent
drill.


I recommend a corded Milwaulkee drill. It will last a lifetime and
won't run out of power. There are better brands than Ryobi. A 14
volt is about right for general purpose.

I had a corded Milwaukee and finally gave it away because I wasn't
using it anymore and didn't want to see it just gathering dust.


My second (and last) cordless is somewhere in a landfill.

I am curious as to what you do with your drills that an 18v cordless won't
handle.


Never spend money on batteries again and again and again? I am however a
big cordless drill user, less restrictive.

Leon wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
Phisherman wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Phisherman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:23:46 -0400, "Ed Edelenbos"
wrote:

Ok, so one of batteries for my Ryobi 14.4 battery is dying. One
died a couple years ago and I replaced it then. I've had the
drill for around 5 or 6 years and done mostly home projects with
it. I've been (overall) happy with the battery life (ie time
between charges) and power. I can order a replacement battery
for around $50 or I can upgrade. This is my 2nd generation of
Ryobi and I've been pretty happy with their stuff. Of course
in 5 or 6 years, technology has advanced a bunch and there are
new names in the market.

What are the suggestions for 18v (or 19.2v???) drills? I'm not
really interested in saws and all the other stuff, just a decent
drill.


I recommend a corded Milwaulkee drill. It will last a lifetime
and won't run out of power. There are better brands than Ryobi.
A 14 volt is about right for general purpose.

I had a corded Milwaukee and finally gave it away because I wasn't
using it anymore and didn't want to see it just gathering dust.


My second (and last) cordless is somewhere in a landfill.

I am curious as to what you do with your drills that an 18v cordless
won't handle.


Never spend money on batteries again and again and again? I am
however a big cordless drill user, less restrictive.

The batteries are the _only_ downside I've found, but at this point I'm
lousy with batteries and the next time one dies I'll probably cobble up a
tab welder.

Leon wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Yep, if you're just boring straight holes and keep the RPM down it
works fine.



What insures straight?

A modicum of coordination.

Start the hole with the router just like planned, then finish with the
Forstner. The hard part with using a Forstner hand-held is starting the
hole in the desired spot. After that they guide themselves.

Yeah, if you're using a 3-inch in a Hole-Hawg and get it crossed up enough
to bind you can have problems, but a 3/4 in a cordless drill the worst
you're going to do is fry the bit.

Leon wrote:

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...

Lew Hodgett wrote:

"J. Clarke" wrote:


Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Yep, if you're just boring straight holes and keep the RPM down it works
fine.




What insures straight?



Start the bit so it contacts the stock flush. Once the hole is started
the design of the bit prevents it from being angled.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"d.williams" wrote in
:


FWW did a fairly recent test of 18V Lithium drill / drivers, the
Makita BDF452HW, scored both best over all and best value. Retail is
about 200 bucks, occasionally the Big Box DIY stores discount this
drill and an Impact Driver (that is a sweet tool) for $225 - $230.
Agreed on the Panasonic 15.6V, a real work horse, I just bought the
Makita combo kit because I was impressed with the impact driver, and
ended up with both tools, and 2 batteries for just a bit more than a
single would have cost.



I think that's [Makita] the one I got. I found the three tool set with
flashlight for less than the two tool set and the flashlight's pretty
awesome too. It's about like carrying a small car headlight.

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
...

"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with it?
For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Lew

Worked for me. I use them in a hand drill often. No one ever told me not
to and based on experience so far, I'm going to continue.

Spade bit wee also mentioned. Any I've ever had wee crap. Maybe there are
some good ones, but I stopped looking many years ago.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
...

"J. Clarke" wrote:

Why not just spend the 10 bucks for a Forstner bit and be done with
it? For
one set of dog holes you don't need carbide.

Chuck upa forstner in a hand held drill?

I'll pass.

Lew

Worked for me. I use them in a hand drill often. No one ever told
me not to and based on experience so far, I'm going to continue.

Spade bit wee also mentioned. Any I've ever had wee crap. Maybe
there are some good ones, but I stopped looking many years ago.

Spade bits are IMO mainly for rough work--need a hole in a stud to run a
wire or pipe through they're the appropriate tool.

On 10/22/2009 08:20 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Spade bit were also mentioned. Any I've ever had were crap. Maybe there are
some good ones, but I stopped looking many years ago.

The better spade bits have spurs like a brad-point drill. If the bit is
sharp it can produce a reasonably clean hole. Not as clean as a
forstner or sawtooth bit, of course.

Chris

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:10:28 -0600, Chris Friesen
wrote:


The better spade bits have spurs like a brad-point drill. If the bit is
sharp it can produce a reasonably clean hole. Not as clean as a
forstner or sawtooth bit, of course.

I agree with that. I bought a set of Speedbor drill bits this past
summer from Lee Valley. In cedar, where one might expect an excessive
amount of splintering, they cut very clean holes.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...240,53317&ap=1