Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw, which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

"LoboMike" wrote in message
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Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

The DeWalt is not a true cabinet saw. I'd rate it a down from the Jet and
Delta cabinet saws. The Jet and Delta are fairly close. Jet is imported,
Delta is made in the US if that is a factor. If the Delta is rated #1, the
Jet, IMO is rated #1 1/2. I've used both and can not tell them apart when
pushing a board through them. I do like the Biesemeyer fence.
Ed

The Dewalt is a Hybrid saw, not a true cabinet saw. The Jet depending on the
model may be a hybrid too. It's real cabinet saw if the motor is 3HP and
the model starts w/ "JTAS".

I too, did the upgrade from the Craftsman and went to a "true" cabinet saw,
because I had been doing this hobby long enough to know for sure that I
planned on doing it for the next couple decades and I wanted to never have
to "upgrade" again. YMMV

Your short list should include:

Delta Unisaw
JET JTAS
General 350
Grizzly 1023???
Powermatic 66

I'm not saying that everyone needs a $1500 saw. I am saying that it appears
that you have been at this long enough to know that you will continue doing
it for a long time. And, since you're asking about cabinet saw's, they are
not out of your financial reach.

I don't **need** my JTAS, but it has provided me with more than my money's
worth of enjoyment.

BTW, **none** of the above saws suck; any of them will put a long-lasting
grin on your face.

-Steve






"LoboMike" wrote in message
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Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

LoboMike asks:


The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.


I don't know whether you're listing the Jet cabinet saw or their "super" saw,
but the DeWalt is not a cabinet saw. The Delta should be the Unisaw for that
price, with a pile of extra equipment.

Given a choice, I'd pick either the Jet cabinet saw (not the super saw) or the
Unisaw, but at those prices, I'd check the equipment list carefully. Among
other things, on the Delta at 1800 smackers, you'd need a top quality blade
added, the 50" Biese or Unifence, table and undershelf, and a couple other
fairly decent pieces of gear.

Post the actual features of the saws if you want some kind of sensible
comparison: what you have posted is almost like comparing studio apartments to
penthouses, without knowing which is on the first floor and which on the roof.

Charlie Self
"A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other
way." Mark Twain
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html

When I was looking last year, I decided on the Unisaw. The trunions were
heavier. This is probably not a real issue for a home user, but.......

LoboMike wrote:

Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw, which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

The DeWalt is not a true cabinet saw. I'd rate it a down from the Jet and
Delta cabinet saws. The Jet and Delta are fairly close. Jet is imported,
Delta is made in the US if that is a factor. If the Delta is rated #1, the
Jet, IMO is rated #1 1/2. I've used both and can not tell them apart when
pushing a board through them. I do like the Biesemeyer fence.
Ed


I have used all 3 of these saws...and honestly I could & would
survive with any of them in my shop ... But letting the truth be
known I do not get excited about the Hybird saws, neither Dewalt or
the Jst Super Saw....

BUT !

My main reason for repling is the Fence... which I personally think
is a more important choice to make then the choice of which brand of
saw to purchase...

I can not comment on the Bies-clones because I actually stopped
looking at fences the same day I installed a Biesemeyer on my saw more
then 10 years ago....

So look carefully at your choices in fences..., play with them , yank
them off the saw, slide them around etc ..find the one you like....

THEN FLIP A COIN on what brand saw to buy....

Bob Griffiths
for the record...I run an. OLD .(.BLUE in COLOR) Jet
...with a Homeshop Biesemeyer... which I purchased new in the mid to
late 80's...

Do you live near TN? if so you can get refurbed Delta Unisaws in Sevierville
TN for under $1000.

--

http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"LoboMike" wrote in message
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Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

I may be wrong here but I don't think you will find a Powermatic 66 anywhere
near 1500.00 new....

Philski

Stephen M wrote:

The Dewalt is a Hybrid saw, not a true cabinet saw. The Jet depending on the
model may be a hybrid too. It's real cabinet saw if the motor is 3HP and
the model starts w/ "JTAS".

I too, did the upgrade from the Craftsman and went to a "true" cabinet saw,
because I had been doing this hobby long enough to know for sure that I
planned on doing it for the next couple decades and I wanted to never have
to "upgrade" again. YMMV

Your short list should include:

Delta Unisaw
JET JTAS
General 350
Grizzly 1023???
Powermatic 66

I'm not saying that everyone needs a $1500 saw. I am saying that it appears
that you have been at this long enough to know that you will continue doing
it for a long time. And, since you're asking about cabinet saw's, they are
not out of your financial reach.

I don't **need** my JTAS, but it has provided me with more than my money's
worth of enjoyment.

BTW, **none** of the above saws suck; any of them will put a long-lasting
grin on your face.

-Steve

"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

"Philski" wrote in message
...
I may be wrong here but I don't think you will find a Powermatic 66
anywhere
near 1500.00 new....

And the Grizz saw is considerably less.

I was making describing a general price point for group of cabinet saws
mentioned....

-s

Thanx, I am in NC, so if Sevierville is in eastern TN I could do it. I'll
check the map.


--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.



"KYHighlander" wrote in message
...
Do you live near TN? if so you can get refurbed Delta Unisaws in
Sevierville
TN for under $1000.

--

http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt
had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best
available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

Thanx everyone, this was exactly what I was looking for. I am in the
preliminary stages of due diligence, therefore a general query.

FWIW the three saws I referenced were floor models at Woodcraft in GSO and
yes all featured up as suggested in the pricing. Once I have a clear
definition of my desires and perceived preferred model I'll be back for
confirmation of features and prices.

Anyone with a good used model available let me know.

Thanx again,


--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.



"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

Can you suppy me with ph/address for this?

Thanks,
H.

"KYHighlander" wrote in message ...
Do you live near TN? if so you can get refurbed Delta Unisaws in Sevierville
TN for under $1000.

--

http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

Sevierville is just across from NC. What is the contact to pursue one of
these?

TIA
--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.



"KYHighlander" wrote in message
...
Do you live near TN? if so you can get refurbed Delta Unisaws in
Sevierville
TN for under $1000.

--

http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt
had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best
available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC. Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.

Hi, you can get directions to the stores at: www.workshoptools.com


LoboMike wrote in message
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Sevierville is just across from NC. What is the contact to pursue one of
these?

TIA
--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.



"KYHighlander" wrote in message
...
Do you live near TN? if so you can get refurbed Delta Unisaws in
Sevierville
TN for under $1000.

--

http://users.adelphia.net/~kyhighland


"LoboMike" wrote in message
link.net...
Browsed the offerings, for education purposes, at Woodcraft this past
weekend. They had three "cabinet" table saws: Jet, Delta and Dewalt.

The Jet appeared the best value for the dollars. That said the Dewalt
had
some very nice features. The base prices, probably not the best
available
I
know, went from $1.300 for the Jet to $1,800 for the Delta IIRC.
Sorry
don't remember many features included other than a Bies fence on the
delta.

What do y'all think of these three and please offer why.

I'm planning to eventually upgrade from my Craftsman contractors saw,
which
by the way has served me well. It proved to be a great vehicle to
learn
and
advance my skills and knowledge. However I want to do some serious
furniture/cabinet work, so time to move forward.

--
LoboMike

"If you seek a universal truth on anything, live long, study
hard, and be sure to visit the real world along the way.",

Walter J. Kuleck, Ph.D.