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Saw Stop demo with a real hand
Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network). The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all sorts of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some of the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop demonstrating the saw. At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of course, it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand in water (I think it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold? The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can. MJM |
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I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to
force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if you're demonstrating how well the thing works? my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc..... jc wrote in message ... Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science network). The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all sorts of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some of the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop demonstrating the saw. At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of course, it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand in water (I think it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold? The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can. MJM |
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On Nov 22, 7:52*am, "joe" wrote:
I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. *I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if you're demonstrating how well the thing works? my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc..... jc wrote in message ... Just saw a new show "TimeWarp" (I think on Discovery or Science network). The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all sorts of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some of the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop demonstrating the saw. At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of course, it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand in water (I think it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold? The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can. MJM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I just saw (no pun intened) the Time Warp episode. 2 comments: 1 - Blood The inventor did the hot dog demo first and it didn't even appear to nick the skin, so I don't know if there would have been blood had it been his finger. 2 - When the inventor did use his finger, he approached the blade from the side with the pad of his middle finger - not the way you or I would normally contact the blade in actual use. I'm not about to run downstairs and see if I can touch the sides of the teeth on my saw, but I think the SawStop is much less likely to nick the pad coming in from the side than it would if the side of your thumb was coming straight into the teeth. |
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 7:52 am, "joe" wrote: I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if you're demonstrating how well the thing works? my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc..... jc wrote in message ... Just saw a new show "TimeWarp" (I think on Discovery or Science network). The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all sorts of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some of the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop demonstrating the saw. At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of course, it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand in water (I think it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold? The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can. MJM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I just saw (no pun intened) the Time Warp episode. 2 comments: 1 - Blood The inventor did the hot dog demo first and it didn't even appear to nick the skin, so I don't know if there would have been blood had it been his finger. 2 - When the inventor did use his finger, he approached the blade from the side with the pad of his middle finger - not the way you or I would normally contact the blade in actual use. I'm not about to run downstairs and see if I can touch the sides of the teeth on my saw, but I think the SawStop is much less likely to nick the pad coming in from the side than it would if the side of your thumb was coming straight into the teeth. Never having seen a Sawstop, I don't know exactly how it functions but it is electrical. Soaking his hand in water was to increase conductivity. So, if you are going to try to hurt yourself with a Sawstop, make sure you wet your hands first. |
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Dave wrote:
Also, if the wood was unnoticeably damp in places it would trip the mechanism and then there would be the expense of replacing the device. Anyone who is that careless in the shop in the first place better give up woodworking. According to the Sawstop web site: "5. Will cutting green or “wet” wood activate the SawStop safety system? SawStop saws cut most wet wood without a problem. However, if the wood is very green or wet (for example, wet enough to spray a mist when cutting), or if the wood is both wet and pressure treated, then the wood may be sufficiently conductive to trigger the brake. Accordingly, the best practice is to dry wet or green wood before cutting by standing it inside and apart from other wood for about one day. You can also cut wet pressure treated wood and other conductive material by placing the saw in bypass mode." http://www.sawstop.com/how-it-works-faqs.htm -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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"Dave" wrote in
: Also, if the wood was unnoticeably damp in places it would trip the mechanism and then there would be the expense of replacing the device. Anyone who is that careless in the shop in the first place better give up woodworking. Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in. Puckdropper -- If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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On Nov 21, 9:04*pm, "
wrote: Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science network). The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all sorts of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some of the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop demonstrating the saw. At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of course, it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand in water (I think it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold? The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can. MJM I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. |
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"Robatoy" wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? |
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On Nov 23, 8:29*pm, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "Robatoy" *wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. ROTF |
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CW wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? [I'm gonna regret this, but...] Some peoples' table saw infeed tables are longer than others' -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in. Puckdropper Probably would depend on the feed rate as well as a shirt sleeve becoming entangled in the spinning blade. I imaging the Saw Stop designers have thought about that and would not go the extra step in both engineering and cost if they did not have a reason. |
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On Nov 23, 9:11*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
CW wrote: "Lee Michaels" wrote in message .. . "Robatoy" *wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? [I'm gonna regret this, but...] * Some peoples' table saw infeed tables are longer than others' -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough We know, we know. Infeed tables should not be any shorter than Obama's dick. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. That way we can REALLY rip some frickin' LUMBAH!!! |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. That could never happen. If he could reach the blade with his dick, he would have been a porn star instead and the Saw Stop would never have been invented. So you see, there actually is a place in this world for guys with short dicks. |
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On Nov 23, 8:44*pm, "CW" wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" *wrote I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? Not after I dipped it in ice-water. |
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Robatoy wrote in
: I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? Not after I dipped it in ice-water. Yeah, mine shrinks down to the size of a stack of dimes... about thirty cents worth. |
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CW wrote:
Never having seen a Sawstop, I don't know exactly how it functions but it is electrical. Soaking his hand in water was to increase conductivity. So, if you are going to try to hurt yourself with a Sawstop, make sure you wet your hands first. Nope...it works perfectly fine with dry skin. If you know of a place with a sawstop, you can try it out. With the motor off but the electrical system in "test" mode, you can touch the blade with items and see if it would trigger the safetey feature. I'm inclined to think the ice was for numbing (so he didn't flinch?) , to drive the blood away from the surface, or possibly both. Chris |
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Puckdropper wrote:
Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in. The energy transferred from the spinning blade as it slams into the brake is actually what causes it to drop so fast. Conservation of angular momentum and all that... Chris |
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Elrond Hubbard wrote in news:Xns9B605C0B5F317oldshoe@
216.151.153.22: Robatoy wrote in : I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? Not after I dipped it in ice-water. Yeah, mine shrinks down to the size of a stack of dimes... about thirty cents worth. That gets a 15 yard penalty for over-sharing. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 24 Nov, 20:20, Han wrote:
Elrond Hubbard wrote in news:Xns9B605C0B5F317oldshoe@ 216.151.153.22: Robatoy wrote in : I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some trust in his product. ************************ Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the front of the tablesaw. You mean you can't reach? Not after I dipped it in ice-water. Yeah, mine shrinks down to the size of a stack of dimes... about thirty cents worth. That gets a 15 yard penalty for over-sharing. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Shouldn't these penalties be measured in inches? |
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