Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

MJM

I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to
force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that
the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it
works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if you're
demonstrating how well the thing works?

my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc.....

jc

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Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

MJM

On Nov 22, 7:52*am, "joe" wrote:
I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to
force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that
the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. *I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it
works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if you're
demonstrating how well the thing works?

my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc.....

jc

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Just saw a new show "TimeWarp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

MJM- Hide quoted text -

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I just saw (no pun intened) the Time Warp episode.

2 comments:

1 - Blood

The inventor did the hot dog demo first and it didn't even appear to
nick the skin, so I don't know if there would have been blood had it
been his finger.

2 - When the inventor did use his finger, he approached the blade from
the side with the pad of his middle finger - not the way you or I
would normally contact the blade in actual use. I'm not about to run
downstairs and see if I can touch the sides of the teeth on my saw,
but I think the SawStop is much less likely to nick the pad coming in
from the side than it would if the side of your thumb was coming
straight into the teeth.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
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On Nov 22, 7:52 am, "joe" wrote:
I didn't see it. If it was ice water, I'm guessing that the purpose was to
force blood away from the surface of the hand so even the small nick that
the SS leaves wouldn't bleed much. I mean, you're gonna bleed even if it
works, albeit just a little, but why would you want to show blood if
you're
demonstrating how well the thing works?

my $1/50, your opinion may vary, etc etc.....

jc

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Just saw a new show "TimeWarp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

MJM- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I just saw (no pun intened) the Time Warp episode.

2 comments:

1 - Blood

The inventor did the hot dog demo first and it didn't even appear to
nick the skin, so I don't know if there would have been blood had it
been his finger.

2 - When the inventor did use his finger, he approached the blade from
the side with the pad of his middle finger - not the way you or I
would normally contact the blade in actual use. I'm not about to run
downstairs and see if I can touch the sides of the teeth on my saw,
but I think the SawStop is much less likely to nick the pad coming in
from the side than it would if the side of your thumb was coming
straight into the teeth.

Never having seen a Sawstop, I don't know exactly how it functions but it is
electrical. Soaking his hand in water was to increase conductivity. So, if
you are going to try to hurt yourself with a Sawstop, make sure you wet your
hands first.

CW wrote:

Never having seen a Sawstop, I don't know exactly how it functions but it is
electrical. Soaking his hand in water was to increase conductivity. So, if
you are going to try to hurt yourself with a Sawstop, make sure you wet your
hands first.

Nope...it works perfectly fine with dry skin. If you know of a place
with a sawstop, you can try it out. With the motor off but the
electrical system in "test" mode, you can touch the blade with items and
see if it would trigger the safetey feature.

I'm inclined to think the ice was for numbing (so he didn't flinch?) ,
to drive the blood away from the surface, or possibly both.

Chris

In article ,
wrote:
Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

Yes, he touched the blade with his finger, but I wouldn't consider it to
be a real test. If you noticed, he slowly approached the blade with his
finger, so even if it didn't work, all he would have gotten was a small
nick. A real test would have been having him cut a piece of wood at normal
speed with his finger in the way. But also doing so would have been a
higher risk.

"J. Cochran" wrote in message
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In article
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wrote:
Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

Yes, he touched the blade with his finger, but I wouldn't consider it to
be a real test. If you noticed, he slowly approached the blade with his
finger, so even if it didn't work, all he would have gotten was a small
nick. A real test would have been having him cut a piece of wood at normal
speed with his finger in the way. But also doing so would have been a
higher risk.

Also, if the wood was unnoticeably damp in places it would trip the
mechanism and then there would be the expense of replacing the device.
Anyone who is that careless in the shop in the first place better give up
woodworking.

Dave wrote:




Also, if the wood was unnoticeably damp in places it would trip the
mechanism and then there would be the expense of replacing the device.
Anyone who is that careless in the shop in the first place better give
up woodworking.

According to the Sawstop web site:

"5. Will cutting green or “wet” wood activate the SawStop safety system?

SawStop saws cut most wet wood without a problem. However, if the wood
is very green or wet (for example, wet enough to spray a mist when
cutting), or if the wood is both wet and pressure treated, then the wood
may be sufficiently conductive to trigger the brake. Accordingly, the
best practice is to dry wet or green wood before cutting by standing it
inside and apart from other wood for about one day. You can also cut wet
pressure treated wood and other conductive material by placing the saw
in bypass mode."

http://www.sawstop.com/how-it-works-faqs.htm

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

"Dave" wrote in
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Also, if the wood was unnoticeably damp in places it would trip the
mechanism and then there would be the expense of replacing the device.
Anyone who is that careless in the shop in the first place better give
up woodworking.


Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and
not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull
blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in.

Puckdropper
--
If you're quiet, your teeth never touch your ankles.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message

Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and
not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull
blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in.

Puckdropper

Probably would depend on the feed rate as well as a shirt sleeve becoming
entangled in the spinning blade. I imaging the Saw Stop designers have
thought about that and would not go the extra step in both engineering and
cost if they did not have a reason.

Puckdropper wrote:

Wouldn't it be just as safe to have the blade disappear into the saw and
not stop it cold? At the speed a saw blade spins, all but the most dull
blades are going to cut through something and not pull something in.

The energy transferred from the spinning blade as it slams into the
brake is actually what causes it to drop so fast. Conservation of
angular momentum and all that...

Chris

On Nov 21, 9:04*pm, "
wrote:
Just saw a new show "Time Warp" (I think on Discovery or Science
network).

The hosts go around with an amazing high speed camera capturing all
sorts
of events. Explosions, fire eating, skateboarding,etc. have been some
of
the things I saw. But the latest show had the inventor of Saw Stop
demonstrating the saw.

At first, he used the famous hotdog trick. The hosts then said that
he had to do a real hand and he agreed. He used his finger and of
course,
it worked. Interesting before he touched the blade, he soaked his hand
in water (I think
it was ice water). I guess to make sure his hand was wet and cold?

The show repeats alot, so catch it if you can.

MJM

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.

"Robatoy" wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
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Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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"Robatoy" wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
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Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

You mean you can't reach?

CW wrote:


"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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"Robatoy" wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
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Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

You mean you can't reach?

[I'm gonna regret this, but...]

Some peoples' table saw infeed tables are longer than others'


--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

On Nov 23, 9:11*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
CW wrote:

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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"Robatoy" *wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
************************

Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

You mean you can't reach?

[I'm gonna regret this, but...]

* Some peoples' table saw infeed tables are longer than others'

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

We know, we know. Infeed tables should not be any shorter than Obama's
dick.
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That way we can REALLY rip some frickin' LUMBAH!!!

On Nov 23, 8:44*pm, "CW" wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message

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"Robatoy" *wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
************************

Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

You mean you can't reach?

Not after I dipped it in ice-water.

Robatoy wrote in
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I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show
some trust in his product.
************************

Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from
the front of the tablesaw.

You mean you can't reach?

Not after I dipped it in ice-water.

Yeah, mine shrinks down to the size of a stack of dimes... about thirty
cents worth.

On Nov 23, 8:29*pm, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:
"Robatoy" *wrote

I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.
************************

Not THAT would be impressive. Considering how far the blade is from the
front of the tablesaw.

ROTF

"Robatoy" wrote in message
I will be impressed ONLY if he uses his dick. Now THAT would show some
trust in his product.

That could never happen. If he could reach the blade with his dick, he would
have been a porn star instead and the Saw Stop would never have been
invented.

So you see, there actually is a place in this world for guys with short
dicks.