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Seeking a Special Chop or Cut-Off Saw
The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low
RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:57:09 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill"
wrote: The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R http://www.doringer.com/products.htm |
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On Jun 20, 4:57 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** generic term is a 'cold saw' $1300 http://www.drillspot.com/products/56...Bench_Cold_Saw $2700 http://www.mile-x.com/index.asp?Page...ROD&ProdID=979 $2900 http://www.bii1.com/coldsaws/275m.htm http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/pr...ategoryID=6879 Dave |
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On Jun 20, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:57:09 -0400, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote: The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R http://www.doringer.com/products.htm Yowza- $5000 for the base model (but its a 14 inch, larger than the ones I posted) Dave |
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Joe,
Cold saws have been around for a while. Not familiar with the specific one referred to. You can also do the aluminum/steel cutting just by changing the blade. These were really a big deal a few years ago. google for aluminum chopsaw/skilsaw? I did a quick search and couldn't find the really popular one. Aluminator is one trade name. The one I remember a few years ago, they were using a simple hand skilsaw, with this wicked blade, and ripping through 1/4" & thicker aluminum plate like hard butter. It was pretty amazing. they were called shark, alumashark, raptor, something et... ca Joe AutoDrill wrote: The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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wrote in message ... On Jun 20, 4:57 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote: The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? generic term is a 'cold saw' $1300 http://www.drillspot.com/products/56...Bench_Cold_Saw $2700 http://www.mile-x.com/index.asp?Page...ROD&ProdID=979 $2900 http://www.bii1.com/coldsaws/275m.htm http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/pr...ategoryID=6879 Dave http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber $275 !!! Although I have yet to meet a person who bought and used one. Note no reviews yet... -- Michael Koblic, Campbell River, BC |
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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message ... The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Joe, You are talking about a cold saw. The blade turns between 30 to 80 rpm or so. It is really a milling operation. The cut is very smooth and can be virtually burr free. I've owned 2 SOCOs, a Taiwanese saw but were quite good quality. The first was auto feed. I once cut 100 pieces of 1-5/8" cold rolled steel with it, and the machinist measured every one, because he couldn't believe a saw could hold +- 0.001" over 100 pieces! The second one was a manual machine with a swivel vice and I cut mostly aluminum and stainless. To cut a wide range of materials requires at least 3 different blade pitches. Too fine and the chip rolls up in the gullet, seizes, and BANG the blade shatters! Too coarse and the teeth get broken off easily. Blades cost about $90 but get resharpened for $10 a pop. After they have been sharpened maybe 10 times they will grind off all the teeth and cut all new ones, costs about $20 extra. So the blades last a really long time. A dull blade can shatter as well. For production you really want 9 blades, 3 of each pitch. One goes in the saw, one is a spare, and one is out getting sharpened from each pitch set. This way you are never down. Cold saws are great. In my case I used it to eliminate the machining of both ends of round and rectangular parts by cutting to exact size with a beautiful finish. If you have any questions, email me. Gary H. Lucas |
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Scotchman makes a nice cold saw. I have one I use on aluminum, which
works fantastically. I don't cut steel. Scotchman is American made. http://www.scotchman.com/ |
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... Scotchman makes a nice cold saw. I have one I use on aluminum, which works fantastically. I don't cut steel. Scotchman is American made. http://www.scotchman.com/ Is Scotchman the same as Thomas? Thomas makes a beautiful one, centering vise, 2 speed: slow and slower. Pricey, even used. Very heavy, nice to work with. Uses the weight of the motor head to drive through the work, with a arbor-press like handle to lift, or apply more force. Blades are pricey as well, $30+ just to have sharpened. For thinner alum bar or tube, a regular chop saw + wax works well. or RAS. Can also use on thicker stuff, if you're careful. There's another kind of saw, like a chop saw on effing steroids, pneumatic (iirc), that will cut through 3" bar alum in seconds, using carbide blades and high-velocity water mist. Sort of unnerving to use, tho, it's so ferocious--and loud, even with muffs. -- ------ Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY Sodomized by Congress, butt again... But, Obama at least took me to the hospital! entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie, all d'numbuhs |
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On Jun 20, 1:57 pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** You want a cold saw. I'm partial to the Scotchman ones. We used to use a regular woodworking miter saw with a stock fine tooth carbide blade to cut aluminum extrusions, but after someone used too fast a feed and sent a couple saw teeth flying into the wall, we finally looked into getting one. They basically work like a large slitting saw in a milling machine. |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:41:00 GMT, "Gary H. Lucas"
wrote: "Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message ... The other day, some cable TV show about trucks (I think) had this new low RPM, no dust cut-off saw that also allowed miter cuts in steel. I can't remember the name, but I remember it costing something like $2000 or $2500. Anyone see the show or know of this tool? Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Joe, You are talking about a cold saw. The blade turns between 30 to 80 rpm or so. It is really a milling operation. The cut is very smooth and can be virtually burr free. I've owned 2 SOCOs, a Taiwanese saw but were quite good quality. The first was auto feed. I once cut 100 pieces of 1-5/8" cold rolled steel with it, and the machinist measured every one, because he couldn't believe a saw could hold +- 0.001" over 100 pieces! The second one was a manual machine with a swivel vice and I cut mostly aluminum and stainless. To cut a wide range of materials requires at least 3 different blade pitches. Too fine and the chip rolls up in the gullet, seizes, and BANG the blade shatters! Too coarse and the teeth get broken off easily. Blades cost about $90 but get resharpened for $10 a pop. After they have been sharpened maybe 10 times they will grind off all the teeth and cut all new ones, costs about $20 extra. So the blades last a really long time. A dull blade can shatter as well. For production you really want 9 blades, 3 of each pitch. One goes in the saw, one is a spare, and one is out getting sharpened from each pitch set. This way you are never down. Cold saws are great. In my case I used it to eliminate the machining of both ends of round and rectangular parts by cutting to exact size with a beautiful finish. If you have any questions, email me. Gary H. Lucas You need to vary the RPM to get the best SFM for the materials too. One RPM (& saw diameter) does not fit all (well). Consider cutting fluids too. Is it designed for wet? Carbide tools? -- Cliff |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:05:15 -0400, "Proctologically Violated®©"
wrote: wrote in message ... Scotchman makes a nice cold saw. I have one I use on aluminum, which works fantastically. I don't cut steel. Scotchman is American made. http://www.scotchman.com/ Is Scotchman the same as Thomas? Thomas makes a beautiful one, centering vise, 2 speed: slow and slower. Pricey, even used. Very heavy, nice to work with. Uses the weight of the motor head to drive through the work, with a arbor-press like handle to lift, or apply more force. Blades are pricey as well, $30+ just to have sharpened. For thinner alum bar or tube, a regular chop saw + wax works well. or RAS. Can also use on thicker stuff, if you're careful. There's another kind of saw, like a chop saw on effing steroids, pneumatic (iirc), that will cut through 3" bar alum in seconds, using carbide blades and high-velocity water mist. Sort of unnerving to use, tho, it's so ferocious--and loud, even with muffs. A controlled programmable *variable* feedrate might be nice too. -- Cliff |
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