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Belt sander behavior
I bought a new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line
model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. |
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Belt sander behavior
"Richard Evans" wrote in message I bought a new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. They do advertise a "soft start" feature ... but not something I would want to put up with in that particular tool either. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/14/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Belt sander behavior
"Richard Evans" wrote in message ... I bought a new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. No good fer racing then? |
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Belt sander behavior
"Richard Evans" wrote in message ... I bought a new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. Like Swingman asked, perhaps a soft start feature or maybe an Electronic Speed Control. I have several tools that act in a similar manner when the Electronic Speed Control is changed. |
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Belt sander behavior
"Leon" wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote in message .. . I bought a new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. Like Swingman asked, perhaps a soft start feature or maybe an Electronic Speed Control. I have several tools that act in a similar manner when the Electronic Speed Control is changed. It has a variable speed feature, but this trigger lag is evident at all speeds. |
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Belt sander behavior
On May 14, 4:43*pm, "Micky" wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote in message ... I bought a *new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. No good fer racing then? Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. |
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On May 14, 2:45*pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote in message I bought a *new Craftsman belt sander yesterday, top of the line model. When I pulled the trigger, the motor hummed briefly then the belt *slowly* came up to speed. While running, if I let off on the trigger it wouldn't restart until it had coasted to a complete stop. I've had several belt sanders and I expect instant response to the trigger. I took it back and swapped it for another one. It does the same thing. So, did I get two faulty units or is this some new "feechur?" The Sears clerk didn't comment when I described the symptoms. Feature or flaw, it's going back, and this time for a refund. I just don't see this behavior being useful in this tool. They do advertise a "soft start" feature ... but not something I would want to put up with in that particular tool either. ...just an aside, Swing... what *is * that sound that Lynyrd Skynyrd's Tuesday's Gone's hook is played in? Keyboard? Sounds a bit like string, almost bell-like... hard to tell. |
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Belt sander behavior
"Robatoy" wrote: Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. You sure you want to take on my Choo-Choo /w/ 24 grit belts? Lew |
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On May 14, 8:21*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote: Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. You sure you want to take on my Choo-Choo /w/ 24 grit belts? 24 grit?! When I put even a 36g on the widebelt I (literally) get tear-out! 24 must be downright nasty. JP |
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On May 14, 8:32*pm, Jay Pique wrote:
On May 14, 8:21*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Robatoy" wrote: Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. You sure you want to take on my Choo-Choo /w/ 24 grit belts? 24 grit?! *When I put even a 36g on the widebelt I (literally) get tear-out! *24 must be downright nasty. Disclaimer: This is on end-grain butcher-block slabs. WRT the soft-start on your belt sander....I don't have it on any of mine, and I'm sure I wouldn't want it. JP |
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Jay Pique wrote:
On May 14, 8:32*pm, Jay Pique wrote: On May 14, 8:21*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: "Robatoy" wrote: Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. You sure you want to take on my Choo-Choo /w/ 24 grit belts? 24 grit?! *When I put even a 36g on the widebelt I (literally) get tear-out! *24 must be downright nasty. Disclaimer: This is on end-grain butcher-block slabs. WRT the soft-start on your belt sander....I don't have it on any of mine, and I'm sure I wouldn't want it. It's not mentioned on the box or in the manual, so I'm guessing it's not an intentional feechur. |
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On May 14, 8:21*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote: Nope. 36 grit on a Milwaukee...and I'll whoop anybody's ass. You sure you want to take on my Choo-Choo /w/ 24 grit belts? Lew That would be a challenge. |
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Belt sander behavior
"Jay Pique" wrote:
24 grit?! When I put even a 36g on the widebelt I (literally) get tear-out! 24 must be downright nasty. Think fiberglass and CDX you want to laminate with fiberglass. Lew |
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Belt sander behavior
"Richard Evans" wrote It's not mentioned on the box or in the manual, so I'm guessing it's not an intentional feechur. Here is one Craftsman model that does advertise/mention "soft start": http://shop2.aol.ca/shop/product--ca...d_2673634.html -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/14/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Belt sander behavior
On May 15, 9:19*am, "Swingman" wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote It's not mentioned on the box or in the manual, so I'm guessing it's not an intentional feechur. Here is one Craftsman model that does advertise/mention "soft start": http://shop2.aol.ca/shop/product--ca..._en__productId... Is it me, or is that the most awkward looking thing ever? Top heavy, expensive...naaa, I'll stick to my Makeeter... or maybe the baby PC. |
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Belt sander behavior
"Swingman" wrote:
"Richard Evans" wrote It's not mentioned on the box or in the manual, so I'm guessing it's not an intentional feechur. Here is one Craftsman model that does advertise/mention "soft start": http://shop2.aol.ca/shop/product--ca...d_2673634.html I don't see a model number on this one, so don't know if it's the same. It looks like mine, except mine is red. Mine is #26819. See it he http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools No mention of soft start |
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Belt sander behavior
"Richard Evans" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote: It has a variable speed feature, but this trigger lag is evident at all speeds. If the trigger controls the variable speed that might normal if the sander also has ESC, Electronic speed control. Typically these type tools monitor the speed of the tool to the location of the trigger and "cruise control" so to speak. Your are sorta flying by wire. |
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Belt sander behavior
Richard Evans wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: "Richard Evans" wrote It's not mentioned on the box or in the manual, so I'm guessing it's not an intentional feechur. Here is one Craftsman model that does advertise/mention "soft start": http://shop2.aol.ca/shop/product--ca...d_2673634.html I don't see a model number on this one, so don't know if it's the same. It looks like mine, except mine is red. Mine is #26819. See it he http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools No mention of soft start OK, I took it back and spoke to the manager. It does indeed have the soft start feature, though he admitted it should've been mentioned in the packaging. Apparently, it's common, at least in Craftsman tools. The manager said he has it on a router and really likes it, though I still can't imagine the benefit of it. I decided to keep it because at $170 it was far and away the cheapest 4" sander I could find. |
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On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:05:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote: They do advertise a "soft start" feature ... but not something I would want to put up with in that particular tool either. ...just an aside, Swing... what *is * that sound that Lynyrd Skynyrd's Tuesday's Gone's hook is played in? Keyboard? Sounds a bit like string, almost bell-like... hard to tell. According to the liner notes, it's Roosevelt Cook playing a Mellotron. It's about the earliest keyboard instrument that could use sampled sounds. So early that the samples were on tape. A lot of rock bands from the Beatles to the Moody Blues used them back in the day. Originally they were built in England but there is a Canadian company building them and supplying parts now. They also have CDs with the original Mellotron sounds. Mike O. |
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On May 15, 9:22*pm, Mike O. wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:05:35 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy wrote: They do advertise a "soft start" feature ... but not something I would want to put up with in that particular tool either. ...just an aside, Swing... what *is * that sound that Lynyrd Skynyrd's Tuesday's Gone's hook is played in? Keyboard? *Sounds a bit like string, almost bell-like... hard to tell. According to the liner notes, it's Roosevelt Cook playing a Mellotron. It's about the earliest keyboard instrument that could use sampled sounds. *So early that the samples were on tape. *A lot of rock bands from the Beatles to the Moody Blues used them back in the day. Originally they were built in England but there is a Canadian company building them and supplying parts now. * They also have CDs with the original Mellotron sounds. Mike O. Ahhhhh yes..... I just couldn't place it. (No liner notes.) Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:36:26 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote: ...just an aside, Swing... what *is * that sound that Lynyrd Skynyrd's Tuesday's Gone's hook is played in? Keyboard? *Sounds a bit like string, almost bell-like... hard to tell. According to the liner notes, it's Roosevelt Cook playing a Mellotron. Ahhhhh yes..... I just couldn't place it. (No liner notes.) Thanks for clearing that up for me. Speaking of samples...have you heard Kid Rock's All Summer Long? I heard it on the radio the other day and didn't know who did it but saw him on Letterman the other night. He samples Werewolves Of London, Sweet Home Alabama and Fly Like An Eagle in this song. Bob magically turned three pretty good tunes into one mediocre song. Mike O. |
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