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Glue Getting Old? Maybe not.
I am working on a project and wanted to refill my smaller glue container
from the quart container of TB III and noticed that the glue in the quart container had almost turned to a pudding like consistency. As the glue almost poured out when I squeezed the bottle but sucked back into the bottle when I quit squeezing I thought that this half bottle of glue had expired. I have 2, 1 quart bottles and the unopened one was fine and both were bought at the same time. So, I called Franklin International and told them that I thought I had a bottle of glue that had gone bad, what can you do for me. They indicated that they have only seen the glue sometimes begin to gel, like putting. I had not told them what was wrong however his description matched my problem. The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. |
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Glue Getting Old? Maybe not.
"Leon" wrote The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. It's a small world out there. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. I think you are showing your age there Lee. I remember many years ago the magical whack and or jiggle of the knob would make the reception on any TV or radio come in better. These days there are no knobs to jiggle and printed circuits don't respond in a benefitting way to being whacked. ;~) |
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Glue Getting Old? Maybe not.
Leon wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. I think you are showing your age there Lee. I remember many years ago the magical whack and or jiggle of the knob would make the reception on any TV or radio come in better. These days there are no knobs to jiggle and printed circuits don't respond in a benefitting way to being whacked. ;~) Maybe you need a bigger whacker. :-) -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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"Leon" wrote in
et: "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. I think you are showing your age there Lee. I remember many years ago the magical whack and or jiggle of the knob would make the reception on any TV or radio come in better. These days there are no knobs to jiggle and printed circuits don't respond in a benefitting way to being whacked. ;~) You may still fix a modern TV with a good whack... Take a look at the first story under the section "Rob's Experiences" he http://repairfaq.org/sam/stories.htm#rs023 Puckdropper -- Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote
As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. It's a small world out there. LOL .. musicians have what is universally known as the "Peavey Fix" ... whack/smack/kick the **** out of it and, magically, it works again ... First time I've ever seen it applied to wooddorking. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/16/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:33:47 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:
LOL .. musicians have what is universally known as the "Peavey Fix" ... In my neighborhood, Peaveys are used to keep the boat from drifting or the band truck from rolling! They did make a few decent sounding tube amps, but they also made some really ugly sounding stuff... Remember the natural oak Peavey basses of the 80's? G --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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"B A R R Y" wrote
Remember the natural oak Peavey basses of the 80's? G I still have a Peavey 18 /2 10's from that era ... used to power it with a GK 800RB, in crossover mode. Would it ever thump! ... Ouch! Huh? whaddidjyousay?? (haven't used it it in 15 years ... wonder what it'll bring on ebay?) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/11/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:54:24 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote Remember the natural oak Peavey basses of the 80's? G I still have a Peavey 18 /2 10's from that era ... used to power it with a GK 800RB, in crossover mode. I had the same cabinet. It was a replacement of a KILLER Yamaha 6x10 that the seller had to buy me when the *real* owner of the 6x10 appeared. G That Yamaha was like a cut-down SVT cabinet, with less boomy bottom. I never could find another of that beautiful sounding box. --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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Swingman wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote Remember the natural oak Peavey basses of the 80's? G I still have a Peavey 18 /2 10's from that era ... used to power it with a GK 800RB, in crossover mode. Would it ever thump! ... Ouch! Huh? whaddidjyousay?? (haven't used it it in 15 years ... wonder what it'll bring on ebay?) and you had to have the 7mm Stixson Gangley Wrench to just get the cover off... confusedly yours, jo4hn |
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:08:51 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" Like The Fonz? G --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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In article , "Lee Michaels" wrote:
"Leon" wrote The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. It's called "percussive maintenance". -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Doug Miller wrote:
"Leon" wrote The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. As an avid advocate of the "magic whack" fix for everything electronic and mechanical, I am surprised that this technique also apples to glue. It's called "percussive maintenance". I'm a big fan of my BFH alignment tool. |
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Leon wrote:
Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. Nice little physics lesson...thanks |
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Glue Getting Old? Maybe not.
I seem to remember that a "magic whack" from my Dad used to fix us kids too.
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"ron" wrote in message ... I seem to remember that a "magic whack" from my Dad used to fix us kids too. Yeah.. ;~) |
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Glue Getting Old? Maybe not.
Leon wrote:
I am working on a project and wanted to refill my smaller glue container from the quart container of TB III and noticed that the glue in the quart container had almost turned to a pudding like consistency. As the glue almost poured out when I squeezed the bottle but sucked back into the bottle when I quit squeezing I thought that this half bottle of glue had expired. I have 2, 1 quart bottles and the unopened one was fine and both were bought at the same time. So, I called Franklin International and told them that I thought I had a bottle of glue that had gone bad, what can you do for me. They indicated that they have only seen the glue sometimes begin to gel, like putting. I had not told them what was wrong however his description matched my problem. The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. Aha! A thixotropic gel. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who don't. |
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"Gerald Ross" wrote in message news Aha! A thixotropic gel. No, it was glue. ;~) |
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:47:58 -0600, "Leon"
wrote: I am working on a project and wanted to refill my smaller glue container from the quart container of TB III and noticed that the glue in the quart container had almost turned to a pudding like consistency. As the glue almost poured out when I squeezed the bottle but sucked back into the bottle when I quit squeezing I thought that this half bottle of glue had expired. I have 2, 1 quart bottles and the unopened one was fine and both were bought at the same time. So, I called Franklin International and told them that I thought I had a bottle of glue that had gone bad, what can you do for me. They indicated that they have only seen the glue sometimes begin to gel, like putting. I had not told them what was wrong however his description matched my problem. The very simple solution to fix and return the gel like glue to a chocolate milk liquid was to simply "whack" the bottle a couple of times with the palm of your hand. Like magic, this gunk in my glue bottle suddenly turned to a liquid again. I've been doing that since my first bottle of TB III, Leon.. I hope your call to Franklin was toll free, cuz it tells you on the label to "hit vigorously on a hard surface" on the label.. ;-] mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... I hope your call to Franklin was toll free, It wuz. cuz it tells you on the label to "hit vigorously on a hard surface" on the label.. ;-] Reeeeeally! I gunna go take a look. Wellllll, the lable on mne says to shake vigeriousely by bumping on a table. I only had to bump the bottle against my hand 2 or 3 times, no shaking at all. That said, I'm going to shake it too. ;~) |
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:55:30 GMT, "Leon" wrote:
"mac davis" wrote in message .. . I hope your call to Franklin was toll free, It wuz. cuz it tells you on the label to "hit vigorously on a hard surface" on the label.. ;-] Reeeeeally! I gunna go take a look. Wellllll, the lable on mne says to shake vigeriousely by bumping on a table. I only had to bump the bottle against my hand 2 or 3 times, no shaking at all. That said, I'm going to shake it too. ;~) Lesson that I learned about 40 years too late.. NEVER use your body when you can use a tool.. I'll hit it against the table.. If I would have bought and used a rubber mallet in my younger days, I know my hands & wrists would be in a lot better shape now.. Of course, staying out of fights would have helped a lot, too... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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mac davis wrote:
Lesson that I learned about 40 years too late.. NEVER use your body when you can use a tool.. I'll hit it against the table.. If I would have bought and used a rubber mallet in my younger days, I know my hands & wrists would be in a lot better shape now.. Of course, staying out of fights would have helped a lot, too... Man...do I relate to that. Being a woodcarver, I used the heel of my hand as a hammer for so long, I crushed the blood vessels until my fingers shrank and turned white...couldn't resist the brawls, either. |
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:51:34 -0800 (PST), DAClark
wrote: mac davis wrote: Lesson that I learned about 40 years too late.. NEVER use your body when you can use a tool.. I'll hit it against the table.. If I would have bought and used a rubber mallet in my younger days, I know my hands & wrists would be in a lot better shape now.. Of course, staying out of fights would have helped a lot, too... Man...do I relate to that. Being a woodcarver, I used the heel of my hand as a hammer for so long, I crushed the blood vessels until my fingers shrank and turned white...couldn't resist the brawls, either. Yep.. tapping on wrenches, lathe handles, fence pickets, etc.... I nag my kids and anyone else in range about the value of a rubber mallet... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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