On Dec 3, 7:04 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
Lee Michaels wrote:
"mapdude" wrote in message
...
It is my understanding from the guys in out IT department that
Microsoft has conceded problems with Vista and is offering free
downgrades to XP to anyone who has purchased a new machine with
Vista on it if you request it.

It is a downgrade if it fixes the problem?

Regardless, that "offer" by Microsoft is not an acknowledgment of
problems. Microsoft has had the backreve policy in place as long as I
can remember--most Microsoft operating system licenses are valid for
several generations of OS, so if you have an XP license it's also good
for Windows 2000 and IIRC NT as well (but check your lincense
agreement). Most but not all Vista licenses are and always have been
good for XP and 2K. You need the media from a retail boxed or System
Builder copy of XP to backrev though.

--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?
I have to actually buy a MS product for my business, but it won't get
much of a workout.

I tried a few other forums on usenet, but, whoa, is it ever nice and
quiet in here....G

r

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that the Pro
version offered more security over the Home version. They especially pushed
it for wireless lap tops.

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that the Pro
version offered more security over the Home version. They especially
pushed it for wireless lap tops.


XP Pro also supports multiple monitors, a must for me.

"Robatoy" wrote

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?
I have to actually buy a MS product for my business, but it won't get
much of a workout.


If you need to know the ins and outs of microsoft operating systems, I
suggest you subscribe to

http://windowssecrets.com/

They have archives you can search. There is a free version and a paid
version. Needlkess to say, the paid version is much more extensive.

Leon wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--
In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that the Pro
version offered more security over the Home version. They especially pushed
it for wireless lap tops.

I don't know enough to try to quote from memory, but here's a link that
should answer any question...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...p/default.mspx


--

Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 3, 7:04 am, "J. Clarke" wrote:
Lee Michaels wrote:
"mapdude" wrote in message
. ..
It is my understanding from the guys in out IT department that
Microsoft has conceded problems with Vista and is offering free
downgrades to XP to anyone who has purchased a new machine with
Vista on it if you request it.

It is a downgrade if it fixes the problem?

Regardless, that "offer" by Microsoft is not an acknowledgment of
problems. Microsoft has had the backreve policy in place as long
as
I can remember--most Microsoft operating system licenses are valid
for several generations of OS, so if you have an XP license it's
also good for Windows 2000 and IIRC NT as well (but check your
lincense agreement). Most but not all Vista licenses are and
always
have been good for XP and 2K. You need the media from a retail
boxed or System Builder copy of XP to backrev though.

--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home
and
Pro?
I have to actually buy a MS product for my business, but it won't
get
much of a workout.

I tried a few other forums on usenet, but, whoa, is it ever nice and
quiet in here....G

There are two significant differences. Home doesn't support dual
processors (it does support dual core though, but IIRC this didn't
happen until one of the service packs) and can't join a domain (at
least not without doing some hacking on it), which is only an issue if
you are running one of the Windows Server products. There are some
differences in default settings but I haven't played with Home enough
to remember what they are.

And I was slightly in error on the backrev policy--it only applies to
Open License and Software Assurance customers (mostly corporate
users), not to retail boxed or OEM product, except that XP and Vista
OEM licenses can be backreved (it's weird that they allow it for OEM
but not for retail-box), at least as of last January, which is the
most recent policy statement I can find.

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Lee Michaels wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home
and Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that
the Pro version offered more security over the Home version. They
especially pushed it for wireless lap tops.


XP Pro also supports multiple monitors, a must for me.

So does Home. All versions of XP and Vista (except maybe the "Basic"
versions that are very hard to come by) support up to 10 monitors.

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Lee Michaels wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home
and Pro?
I have to actually buy a MS product for my business, but it won't
get
much of a workout.


If you need to know the ins and outs of microsoft operating systems,
I
suggest you subscribe to

http://windowssecrets.com/

They have archives you can search. There is a free version and a
paid
version. Needlkess to say, the paid version is much more extensive.

If that's your source for the information that XP Home doesn't support
multiple monitors then I'd give it a wide berth.

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:15:29 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"mapdude" wrote in message
...
It is my understanding from the guys in out IT department that Microsoft
has conceded problems with Vista and is offering free downgrades to XP to
anyone who has purchased a new machine with Vista on it if you request it.


It is a downgrade if it fixes the problem?

Yeah, right Lee... Micro$oft doesn't fix things, they sell you upgrades.. ;-]
(after you pay to be a beta tester)


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
...
"Swingman" writes:

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year
old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

Say again?


On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
...
Mark & Juanita writes:

Msoft put primary effort into 2 things for Vista: 1) A slick interface
to
appeal to users. It's cool but the way it is implemented Aero Glass is
very resource intensive.


In other words, you MUST buy a new computer to use the interface.
That's MS's business model - forcing people to buy a new computer
every three years.

If they did the same thing as the Mac, they would not need the
high-end graphics that Aero requires. That would make live easier on
users. But that's not what MS really wants to do.


Can you explain why Microsoft wants you to buy a new computer when they do
not sell computers?
Yes, I know that many computers come with the MS OS however that is no
longer a requirement and you can get just about any OS you want on a new
computer.

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 05:58:47 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
wrote:

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?
I have to actually buy a MS product for my business, but it won't get
much of a workout.

I tried a few other forums on usenet, but, whoa, is it ever nice and
quiet in here....G

r

We use computers that came with XP home, XP pro and XP Media center..
AFAICT, home is just that but because of the target market, it's "easier" to
view and send photos, etc..
pro is my preference so far.. Seems a bit faster on networks then Home and seems
to be the more "tweekable" of the 3..
media is sort of self-describing.. a lot of built-in stuff for sound, movies,
etc..
They're all pretty much the same and I'd recommend any of them... I would NOT
recommend mixing them on a network, though...
We have the 3, as I said above, because different computers came with different
OS... Pro seems to be able to talk to all the others but xp has to be nagged
into file sharing and protects it's Program Files folder like it was valuable or
something..

I only know 3 people with Vista so far.. I loves it and the other 2 hate it..
The one that loves it is new to computers so ya never know..lol


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:16:59 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"Robatoy" wrote

I'm trusting POS stands for Point Of Sale in this case? G

Is that what POS stands for???

making a note...

Reminds me of a Christmas morning when my kids were little...
A friend had bought them a little football and was playing with them in the
yard... I came out and the 4 yr old said "Daddy, Draco taught us the SOL play"

I looked at my friend, he looked at me... then the light went on and he said
"don't worry, it's the Statue Of Liberty play"...


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Maxwell Lol wrote:
Mark & Juanita writes:

Msoft put primary effort into 2 things for Vista: 1) A slick
interface to appeal to users. It's cool but the way it is
implemented Aero Glass is very resource intensive.


In other words, you MUST buy a new computer to use the interface.
That's MS's business model - forcing people to buy a new computer
every three years.

My 5 year old machine runs Vista just fine. Why would Microsoft have
any interest in forcing people to buy new computers? They don't sell
computers.

If they did the same thing as the Mac, they would not need the
high-end graphics that Aero requires. That would make live easier on
users. But that's not what MS really wants to do.

So enlighten us as to what they want to do besides sell a lot of
software and mice and keyboards and Xboxen and make a lot of money?

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"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
"Swingman" writes:

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year
old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

Say again?

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

Anything else?


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Last update: 11/30/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

mac davis wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:15:29 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"mapdude" wrote in message
. ..
It is my understanding from the guys in out IT department that
Microsoft has conceded problems with Vista and is offering free
downgrades to XP to anyone who has purchased a new machine with
Vista on it if you request it.


It is a downgrade if it fixes the problem?

Yeah, right Lee... Micro$oft doesn't fix things, they sell you
upgrades.. ;-] (after you pay to be a beta tester)

You mean like Leopard?

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Swingman wrote:
"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
"Swingman" writes:

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year
old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);
Say again?

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

Anything else?


Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

"Doug Winterburn" wrote in message
...
Swingman wrote:
"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
"Swingman" writes:




Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

LOL, That too!

On Dec 3, 12:27 pm, Doug Winterburn wrote:
Swingman wrote:
"Maxwell Lol" wrote in message
"Swingman" writes:

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year
old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);
Say again?

On my laptop with 2 megs/RAM, Vista is faster than my wife's two year old
laptop running XP with the same RAM (thank the Core2 Duo);

Anything else?

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

My apple tech now talks in terms of 'sticks'. 1/2 a stick is 512
megs.. a whole stick is 1 gig, a couple of sticks...you get the
picture..then there is the double stick...
"Stick a few sticks in there.."
"Naaa...just add a couple of sticks."
"Ya need more sticks."

I think Leon meant 2 sticks. G

On Dec 3, 10:18 am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message

t...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP Home and
Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that the Pro
version offered more security over the Home version. They especially
pushed it for wireless lap tops.

XP Pro also supports multiple monitors, a must for me.

Yup, two monitors. I don't care much about security as the Windows
side of things will never go on-line. All it will do is mundane tasks,
like Cutsheet and ShopBot software (but not to run the controller,)
although I will need an OS for that too.

..eCabinets mostly.

http://www.ecabinetsystems.com/

r

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 07:04:19 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Regardless, that "offer" by Microsoft is not an acknowledgment of
problems. Microsoft has had the backreve policy in place as long as I
can remember--most Microsoft operating system licenses are valid for
several generations of OS, so if you have an XP license it's also good
for Windows 2000 and IIRC NT as well (but check your lincense
agreement). Most but not all Vista licenses are and always have been
good for XP and 2K. You need the media from a retail boxed or System
Builder copy of XP to backrev though.

This is Microsoft we're talking about, they don't acknowledge anything
as a problem. Keep in mind that they understand their Xbox 360 has
overheating problems, they keep extending everyone's warranty but they
won't admit there's a problem and do a recall.

Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 3, 10:18 am, "Lee Michaels"

wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message

t...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--

In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP
Home
and Pro?

When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that
the Pro version offered more security over the Home version. They
especially pushed it for wireless lap tops.

XP Pro also supports multiple monitors, a must for me.

Yup, two monitors. I don't care much about security as the Windows
side of things will never go on-line. All it will do is mundane
tasks,
like Cutsheet and ShopBot software (but not to run the controller,)
although I will need an OS for that too.

.eCabinets mostly.

http://www.ecabinetsystems.com/

It's a funny thing but I've never had a machine that was provably
contaminated from an online source. Usually when there's malware on
the machine somebody took a file home on diskette to work on it, took
it back to work, and booted the machine with the diskette in the
drive.

The best thing you can do for security is go into setup and make sure
that the machine is set to _not_ boot from diskette.

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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J. Clarke wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 3, 10:18 am, "Lee Michaels"

wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message

t...

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
--
In a few words or less, what is the big difference between XP
Home
and Pro?
When I bought our last few computers from Dell they explained that
the Pro version offered more security over the Home version. They
especially pushed it for wireless lap tops.
XP Pro also supports multiple monitors, a must for me.
Yup, two monitors. I don't care much about security as the Windows
side of things will never go on-line. All it will do is mundane
tasks,
like Cutsheet and ShopBot software (but not to run the controller,)
although I will need an OS for that too.

.eCabinets mostly.

http://www.ecabinetsystems.com/

It's a funny thing but I've never had a machine that was provably
contaminated from an online source. Usually when there's malware on
the machine somebody took a file home on diskette to work on it, took
it back to work, and booted the machine with the diskette in the
drive.

The best thing you can do for security is go into setup and make sure
that the machine is set to _not_ boot from diskette.

It's not too common to find a relatively new machine with a diskette drive.

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of "gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


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"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


LOL, My first DOS 2.0 computer had 640k ram and two 360 floppies for massive
storage, no hard drive, 1985.

On Dec 3, 5:18 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message

...



"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

LOL, My first DOS 2.0 computer had 640k ram and two 360 floppies for massive
storage, no hard drive, 1985.

I can beat that. 128K Mac. 400K floppies, but already in the same
plastic sleeves that we still see today.
Early '85.
I still have it. the 4001st one built ever. Still boots. Somewhere in
my museum, lol, I have a 300 baud modem..
I had a Commodore 64 as well. I played Silent Service for days.....
I don't think there's a game I like these days. Daughter and I play a
little Gran Turismo on a PS 2...but thassal.

I remember a friend of mine trying to send me a titty pic..and we made
fun of the speed by referring to the speed by calling it 4 minutes/
nipple. Quite fun, actually. Black & White of course.

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

Our first 686 had a whopping 64 MB RAM and a 30 MB HD !
--
Dave in Houston

"Dave In Houston" wrote in
news

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

Our first 686 had a whopping 64 MB RAM and a 30 MB HD !

I was sooo happy with the 128K RAM expansion card for my Apple //e

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Swingman wrote:
"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of "gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


The 360-40 mainframe I worked on in 1969 had a whopping 256KB. It could
run three partitions of apps under OS/360-MFT. The older 7094 had 32K
of 36-bit oil-cooled magnetic core memory. Took a 55 gallon drum of oil
dumped into the memory and about 2-3 days with the heaters running to
get it up to temp so we could boot it.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

I can beat that. 128K Mac. 400K floppies, but already in the same
plastic sleeves that we still see today.
Early '85.

IIRC it had a screen about 10" across diagonally that built into the
computer case. I almost bought one of those and or the Compac that folded
up into a suit case sized shape with a screen that was about 6" across
diagonally, but I settled for 6300 AT&T with the massive 13" green screen.
:~)



I still have it. the 4001st one built ever. Still boots. Somewhere in
my museum, lol, I have a 300 baud modem..
I had a Commodore 64 as well. I played Silent Service for days.....
I don't think there's a game I like these days. Daughter and I play a
little Gran Turismo on a PS 2...but thassal.

Yeah, I don't still have my AT&T. LOL


I remember a friend of mine trying to send me a titty pic..and we made
fun of the speed by referring to the speed by calling it 4 minutes/
nipple. Quite fun, actually. Black & White of course.

I recall using a computer at work that used a floppy that looked like the
old 5.25" ones however it was about 10" across.

"Dave In Houston" wrote in message
news

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

Our first 686 had a whopping 64 MB RAM and a 30 MB HD !


Sure that was not a 286 or a 386? Before the 286 was the 8086 and the
8088's IIRC. I don't recall 686's.

"Doug Winterburn" wrote in message
news
Swingman wrote:
"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


The 360-40 mainframe I worked on in 1969 had a whopping 256KB. It could
run three partitions of apps under OS/360-MFT. The older 7094 had 32K of
36-bit oil-cooled magnetic core memory. Took a 55 gallon drum of oil
dumped into the memory and about 2-3 days with the heaters running to get
it up to temp so we could boot it.

They don't build'em like they usta. Thank goodness. Sounds slightly
slower than booting Win95. ;~)

Doug Winterburn wrote:
Swingman wrote:
"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes"). "Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


The 360-40 mainframe I worked on in 1969 had a whopping 256KB. It
could run three partitions of apps under OS/360-MFT. The older 7094
had 32K of 36-bit oil-cooled magnetic core memory. Took a 55 gallon
drum of oil dumped into the memory and about 2-3 days with the
heaters running to get it up to temp so we could boot it.

And one of those machines could support a remarkable number of
simultaneous users.

You might want to check out http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/.

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J. Clarke wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote:
Swingman wrote:
"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?
Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes"). "Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


The 360-40 mainframe I worked on in 1969 had a whopping 256KB. It
could run three partitions of apps under OS/360-MFT. The older 7094
had 32K of 36-bit oil-cooled magnetic core memory. Took a 55 gallon
drum of oil dumped into the memory and about 2-3 days with the
heaters running to get it up to temp so we could boot it.

And one of those machines could support a remarkable number of
simultaneous users.

You might want to check out http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/.

Yabbut, there's a huge difference between a black/green text terminal or
selectric typewriter terminal and today's GUIs as far as cycles and
memory usage. The typical modern PC sucks up close to a half gig in 32
bit address (4 gig max) space for video and drivers for a single user.

J. Clarke wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote:
Swingman wrote:
"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?
Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes"). "Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"


The 360-40 mainframe I worked on in 1969 had a whopping 256KB. It
could run three partitions of apps under OS/360-MFT. The older 7094
had 32K of 36-bit oil-cooled magnetic core memory. Took a 55 gallon
drum of oil dumped into the memory and about 2-3 days with the
heaters running to get it up to temp so we could boot it.

And one of those machines could support a remarkable number of
simultaneous users.

You might want to check out http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/.

Brings back memories. I was a IBM Program Support Rep or Software CE.
One of our jobs was to install PTFs on customer machines. Very early in
my IBM career - which started in 1966, I decided to bring one of my
customers completely up to date by installing every PTF that might apply
to them. Took me over a day to back them all out. From that point
forward, I never applied any PTF unless the customer was having a
specific problem that a PTF referenced, and I was always ready to back
it out.

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Dave In Houston" wrote in message
news

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

Our first 686 had a whopping 64 MB RAM and a 30 MB HD !


Sure that was not a 286 or a 386? Before the 286 was the 8086 and the
8088's IIRC. I don't recall 686's.

DOH! What was I thinking?
D-I-H

Dave In Houston wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Dave In Houston" wrote in message
news

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

"Doug Winterburn" wrote

Maybe 2000 megs or 2 gigs?

Gigabytes ... mea culpa.

(still having a hard time thinking of RAM in the magnitude of
"gigabytes").
"Surely we'll never need more than 640K?"

Our first 686 had a whopping 64 MB RAM and a 30 MB HD !


Sure that was not a 286 or a 386? Before the 286 was the 8086 and
the 8088's IIRC. I don't recall 686's.

DOH! What was I thinking?
D-I-H

First machine I ever owned ran CP/M and had 48K. And I learned to
repair the things the hard way--it had a resistor pack reversed and
when I upgades the RAM to 64K it died horribly. Took me the better
part of a year of poking at it to find that.

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too many mega bites makes the giga hurt.
ross

Leon said:

I almost bought one of those and or the Compac that folded
up into a suit case sized shape with a screen that was about 6" across
diagonally, but...

Like this one?
http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...mages/DG01.jpg

Compac portable, circa 1985, 256k mem/dual floppies/orange display.
Running dBase II, DOS 2.x.
Beside it is a Commodore 64, modem, external floppy, and DIY monitor.
Lost most of the _really_ old stuff and its software to asshats.


Greg G.

J. Clarke wrote:

Maxwell Lol wrote:
Mark & Juanita writes:

Msoft put primary effort into 2 things for Vista: 1) A slick
interface to appeal to users. It's cool but the way it is
implemented Aero Glass is very resource intensive.


In other words, you MUST buy a new computer to use the interface.
That's MS's business model - forcing people to buy a new computer
every three years.

My 5 year old machine runs Vista just fine. Why would Microsoft have
any interest in forcing people to buy new computers? They don't sell
computers.


Are you running the Aero Glass with full effects on your 5 year-old
machine?

Msoft doesn't necessarily have any interest in forcing people to buy new
computers, their programming however does require more than currently
deployed machines to fully utilize all new features. Msoft has pretty much
always been that way.


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