Looking for advice on the staining and upkeep of PT pine.

I am building a gazebo and was wondering how the above product would look
and endure? I am in SE Penna.

In my case, should I use the three coats of the Cetol 1 or should I put
Cetol 23 on top of it?

I am just starting and ready for the construction but would not be able to
finish before winter sets in. If I were to do what I can until then, should
I stain what I can before closing up until spring, should I wait until
totally done and stain all at once or would either of the two cause a
varying intake of stain and treatment resulting in an uneven appearance?

Finally, what is different in the product that is restricted to sale in
this part of the country?

Thanks.
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JG... Jeff Givens


"My hovercraft is full of eels."

"Jeff Givens" wrote:

Looking for advice on the staining and upkeep of PT pine.

I'd leave it "as is".

Once you start with anything, you will have to maintain it.

I am building a gazebo and was wondering how the above product would
look

"Cetol" will generate a lot of comments in the boating community.

Provides an orangish color on teak.

Requires regular maintenance.

Some like it, some don't.


Lew

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:40:51 -0700 "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Jeff Givens" wrote:

Looking for advice on the staining and upkeep of PT pine.

I'd leave it "as is".

Once you start with anything, you will have to maintain it.

I don't mind the maintenance - I am quite willing to do a yearly treatment.
I would sure like to have a very nice looking structure - one that is not
that awful aged gray PT wood look, if possible.
__________________________________________________ _______________
JG... Jeff Givens


"My hovercraft is full of eels."

"Jeff Givens" wrote:

I would sure like to have a very nice looking structure - one that
is not
that awful aged gray PT wood look, if possible.

"Nice looking" applies to a lot of things including members of the
opposite sex, and is strictly in the eye of the beholder.

SFWIW, I'm not a fan of Cetol, but you pay your money, you take your
pick.

Have fun.

Lew

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:32 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Nice looking" applies to a lot of things including members of the
opposite sex, and is strictly in the eye of the beholder.


So, if we drink enough beer, Cetol will look better? G

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"B A R R Y" wrote:

So, if we drink enough beer, Cetol will look better?

I doubt it, but you won't care either.

Lew

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:32 -0700 "Lew Hodgett"
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SFWIW, I'm not a fan of Cetol, but you pay your money, you take your
pick.

I am all ears...

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JG... Jeff Givens


"My hovercraft is full of eels."

"Jeff Givens" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:40:51 -0700 "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Jeff Givens" wrote:

Looking for advice on the staining and upkeep of PT pine.

I'd leave it "as is".

Once you start with anything, you will have to maintain it.

I don't mind the maintenance - I am quite willing to do a yearly
treatment.
I would sure like to have a very nice looking structure - one that is not
that awful aged gray PT wood look, if possible.

I used Cetol on a lounge chair I made. I'd never use it again. If you are
willing to do work every year, consider a stain.

"Jeff Givens" wrote:

I am all ears...

I'm not a fan of P/T lumber.

Maybe it's back to the basic question, what are you trying to
accomplish?

Lew

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:28:21 -0700 "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Jeff Givens" wrote:

I am all ears...

I'm not a fan of P/T lumber.

Maybe it's back to the basic question, what are you trying to
accomplish?

Lew



Trying to find what can be used on PT that gives it a chance to look
reasonable over time.

__________________________________________________ _______________
JG... Jeff Givens


"My hovercraft is full of eels."

On Oct 8, 7:50 am, Jeff Givens wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:28:21 -0700 "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:



"Jeff Givens" wrote:

I am all ears...

I'm not a fan of P/T lumber.

Maybe it's back to the basic question, what are you trying to
accomplish?

Lew

Trying to find what can be used on PT that gives it a chance to look
reasonable over time.

__________________________________________________ _______________
JG... Jeff Givens


"My hovercraft is full of eels."

I used Cetol on western red cedar on my front porch last fall. The
"natural" color I used does look a little orange but there are a lot
of other colors to choose from. I applied two coats of Cetol 1 before
assembling the parts. I had every intention of applying a coat of 23
before winter but never got around to it. The 2 coats of #1 held up
just fine over the winter (in Hudson Valley, NY). I have since applied
the finish coat (23) and it looks very nice. One gripe is that it is
not marketed as semi opaque but it definitely was more opaque than I
expected or would have liked.

Cetol has VERYspecific instructions and I've been told the product
will perform fantastically - if - the instructions are followed to the
letter (like coating all 6 surfaces of every board after they have
been cut and before starting assenbly). I've also been told that not
following directions properly practically guarantees bad results.

I don't know if it is compatible with PT lumber. IMO, your best bet is
to go into a professional paint store (not a paint department in a
hardware store or a big box) and get advice from them. Good luck with
your project!

Chuck B.

"Jeff Givens" wrote:

Trying to find what can be used on PT that gives it a chance to look
reasonable over time.

Don't think anybody has yet figured out how to turn a sow's ear into a
silk purse.

If you do, let me know.

Lew

No matter the product, PT SYP will still look like SYP.

The Cetol will give it a slightly different look, but
at the end of the day, it will still look like PT SYP.

The wood should be allowed to dry about six months to
allow the cetol to even penetrate.

You will have plenty of time. Wait six months "after"
completion and then stain away.

Jeff Givens wrote:

Looking for advice on the staining and upkeep of PT pine.

I am building a gazebo and was wondering how the above product would look
and endure? I am in SE Penna.