There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to retard
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.

* Jim Willemin wrote:
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.

I could totally be wrong about this but in the Bowyer's Bible series
they just use elmers smeared over the endgrain.

matthew
ohio

If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
I have used roofing tar, others use paint.

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
7.131...
There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to
retard
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
7.131...
There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad tracks
in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside the fence.
This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with quite a bit of
oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide, and maybe two feet
long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's green. I'd like to
retard
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by the
shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a little
reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable aversion to
lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if that's what it
takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.

If you have not used pallets before you may quickly realize that there are
tons of nails and staples that break off in the wood. I worked for a
company that received an average of 10-12 pallets a week and I finally came
to the conclusion that it was best used for fire wood.

Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1)
(Jim*Willemin) doth sayeth:
snip BUT: it's green. snip

What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
spelling is lousy.

The correct spelling should be:
BUT: it's free.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

"Toller" wrote in message
...
If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
I have used roofing tar, others use paint.


What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on moisture?

Dan

(J T) wrote in news:6615-46F5591A-1906
@storefull-3331.bay.webtv.net:

Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1)
(Jim*Willemin) doth sayeth:
snip BUT: it's green. snip

What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
spelling is lousy.

The correct spelling should be:
BUT: it's free.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan



Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
run than spending money on a non-free item.

Puckdropper
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Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Leon" wrote in
:


"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
7.131...
There is a small pallet mill down on the other side of the railroad
tracks in town, and they appear to dump their scrap in a pile outside
the fence. This morning I just happened to drop by and came away with
quite a bit of oak, thicknesses 3/4 to maybe 8/4, 4 to 8 inches wide,
and maybe two feet long. Dunno what I'll do with it yet, BUT: it's
green. I'd like to retard
checking as much as I can. I'm gonna store it in the basement, by
the shop, stickered, but is there anything else I can do? I'm a
little reluctant to dip the ends in wax (SWMBO has this unreasonable
aversion to lumber in the kitchen - I can't figure it out...), but if
that's what it takes, I'll figure out some way to do it.

If you have not used pallets before you may quickly realize that there
are tons of nails and staples that break off in the wood. I worked
for a company that received an average of 10-12 pallets a week and I
finally came to the conclusion that it was best used for fire wood.



I know that about actual pallets - this stuff is scrap from the mill
that makes the pallets - rough cut hardwoods in little chunks, mostly.
I have gotten maple, walnut, oak (mostly for practice turning). This
haul was just a lot bigger and nicer than most, with stuff that I think
will plane down nicely, if I can avoid checks.

"Dan" wrote in
:

"Toller" wrote in message
...
If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
I have used roofing tar, others use paint.


What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on
moisture?


As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message
7.131...
"Leon" wrote

I know that about actual pallets - this stuff is scrap from the mill
that makes the pallets - rough cut hardwoods in little chunks, mostly.
I have gotten maple, walnut, oak (mostly for practice turning). This
haul was just a lot bigger and nicer than most, with stuff that I think
will plane down nicely, if I can avoid checks.

Ah, rereading, I see you said scraps. That should be a cool stash.

Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 7:29pm (EDT+4) (Puckdropper)
doth claimeth:
Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
run than spending money on a non-free item.

Nah. If it's fee, take it. You can always sort out the small
stuff later. If nothing else, give it away. LOL



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

"Dan" wrote in message
...
"Toller" wrote in message
...
If you don't do anything with it you will have firewood.
I have used roofing tar, others use paint.


What is the purpose of coating the ends, to prevent it taking on moisture?

If you don't coat them the ends will dry before the center. Since wood
shrinks as it dries, the only way the ends can shrink when the center
doesn't is by cracking. (makes sense if you think about it.)
To make it dry evenly you coat the ends so it has to dry through the sides.

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message

As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...

Makes sense. There's a place around the corner from me that usually has a
huge pile of pallets marked "free". I've always assumed they were just low
grade pine. Maybe I'll check 'em out.

Dan

In article ews.net,
Puckdropper wrote:
(J T) wrote in news:6615-46F5591A-1906
:

Sat, Sep 22, 2007, 10:09am (EDT-1)
(Jim*Willemin) doth sayeth:
snip BUT: it's green. snip

What are they teaching you guys in school nowadays? You're
spelling is lousy.

The correct spelling should be:
BUT: it's free.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan



Free doesn't often mean "free." It means it didn't cost you anthing to
acquire. Period. Use of the free item may cost you much more in the long
run than spending money on a non-free item.

Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a woman
who is free for the evening.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:03:29 -0700, "Dan" wrote:

"Jim Willemin" wrote in message

As I understand it, it is to force slow even drying. The cut capillaries
on end grain basically wick moisture out, and allow the stuff near the cut
end to dry from the inside out, essentially, forcing the shrinking wood to
split. If it dries from the sides instead of the ends, 1) it takes a lot
longer, and 2) the wood shrinks from the outside in, allowing it to retain
integrity. I just hope it'll be dry enough to work for Christmas...

Makes sense. There's a place around the corner from me that usually has a
huge pile of pallets marked "free". I've always assumed they were just low
grade pine. Maybe I'll check 'em out.

Dan


I've found pallets Made from many different woods: Pine, Poplar, Oak,
Basswood, Cottonwood (?) - I've even heard of Mahogany and other
exotic woods from over seas and South America. It seems that pallets
are made from whatever wood is available.

A large pile of pallets can be a woodcarvers gold mine.

Bill

Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:14pm (EDT+4)
(Robert*Bonomi) doth sayeth:
Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a
woman
********who is free for the evening.

Something like a $1,000 a night call girl, saying she is "free" for
the evening, eh?



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

J T wrote:
Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:14pm (EDT+4)
(Robert Bonomi) doth sayeth:
Proof: there is nothing in this world that is more expensive than a
woman
who is free for the evening.

Something like a $1,000 a night call girl, saying she is "free"
for the evening, eh?

A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up
wining and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out only
to catch her in the sack with some bum.

JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

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Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:36pm (J.*Clarke)
A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up wining
and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out only to catch
her in the sack with some bum.

It would seem that you have a lot more disposable income than I do,
and vastly different priorities on what to spend it on.. And, one HELL
of a lot more patience.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

J T wrote:
Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 2:36pm (J. Clarke)
A thousand buck a night call girl is a bargain--you don't end up
wining and dining her for six months trying to get her to put out
only to catch her in the sack with some bum.

It would seem that you have a lot more disposable income than I
do, and vastly different priorities on what to spend it on.. And,
one HELL of a lot more patience.

Nahh, both options are overpriced in my book.

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