Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

Jay Pique wrote:
| Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs?
| I'm looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give
| or take a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer
| parts to accept 5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut
| as small as .25", and none of our blades is large enough. I've
| sort of ruled out using a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise
| though.

Otherwise!

Oh, sorry. This is abuse. Arguing is down the hall...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou.

What about stacking some thin-kerf blades together with shims?

Chris

On Aug 22, 5:47 pm, Chris Friesen wrote:
Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou.

What about stacking some thin-kerf blades together with shims?

That's an option, and one I'll probably be using for my immediate
need. But I'd prefer to have a dedicated blade, as this is going to
be used with some regularity by a number of different workers.

JP

On Aug 22, 5:42 pm, "Morris Dovey" wrote:
Jay Pique wrote:

| Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs?
| I'm looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give
| or take a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer
| parts to accept 5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut
| as small as .25", and none of our blades is large enough. I've
| sort of ruled out using a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise
| though.

Otherwise!

Oh, sorry. This is abuse. Arguing is down the hall...

I'm still grumbling over that Clamping Caul Machine you sent me. It's
been sitting in the shop for MONTHS and it hasn't churned out a single
caul yet! Is there an on/off switch that I'm missing?

JP

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
oups.com...
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

One blade of a stacked dado set worked for me.
Jim

Stack two thin kerfs with a 0.0125 shim between them.

On Aug 22, 2:37 pm, Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

Jay Pique writes:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

How about stacking two 40 tooth thin-kerf blades (e.g. freud) alternating
tooth/gullet?

scott

Jay Pique wrote:
| On Aug 22, 5:42 pm, "Morris Dovey" wrote:
|| Jay Pique wrote:
||
||| Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs?
||| I'm looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give
||| or take a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer
||| parts to accept 5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut
||| as small as .25", and none of our blades is large enough. I've
||| sort of ruled out using a router bit. Feel free to argue
||| otherwise though.
||
|| Otherwise!
||
|| Oh, sorry. This is abuse. Arguing is down the hall...
|
| I'm still grumbling over that Clamping Caul Machine you sent me.
| It's been sitting in the shop for MONTHS and it hasn't churned out
| a single caul yet! Is there an on/off switch that I'm missing?

Sorry, but you only get the switch when you order the self-leveling
laser alignment indicator and anchoring attachment - our
super-caul-fragile-i-stick.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
oups.com...
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP


I think I asked this question several years ago, I continue to so what I
always have done. Pass each piece over the blade 1 time and repeat with the
fence moved over a bit.

On 2007-08-22 16:37:08 -0500, Jay Pique said:

Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

Googled "custom saw blades". 1st hit is: www.integritysaw.com/sawblades.htm

They say: "Special kerfs and diameters are not a problem when
manufacturing a custom saw blade. We can manufacture custom blades from
2€� to 36€�."

No association whatsoever, just wanted to point out it may be easy to
get what you need.

Torr

On Aug 22, 8:26 pm, Torr wrote:
On 2007-08-22 16:37:08 -0500, Jay Pique said:

Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

JP

Googled "custom saw blades". 1st hit is: www.integritysaw.com/sawblades.htm

They say: "Special kerfs and diameters are not a problem when
manufacturing a custom saw blade. We can manufacture custom blades from
2" to 36"."

No association whatsoever, just wanted to point out it may be easy to
get what you need.

Torr

Thanks much, Torr. I've already emailed a couple other blade
manufacturers tonight. I'll drop one to them too.

JP

Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

I usually just do this in two passes, with fence spacers.

For a one pass operation, I'd email Ridge, Forrest, or Systematic for a
custom blade quote.

Jay Pique wrote:


Thanks much, Torr. I've already emailed a couple other blade
manufacturers tonight. I'll drop one to them too.

JP


You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

Nova wrote:

You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.

You can't "widen up" the set of carbide teeth. You need to start with
wider carbide.

Chris

Chris Friesen wrote:
Nova wrote:

You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.

You can't "widen up" the set of carbide teeth. You need to start with
wider carbide.

You can't make the carbide wider, no, but there's no reason additional
set in the tooth itself couldn't be added to a blade. Getting 0.220"
would probably be more than feasible from a typical combination 10"
blade, however, granted.

--

On Aug 23, 12:43 pm, dpb wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote:
Nova wrote:

You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.

You can't "widen up" the set of carbide teeth. You need to start with
wider carbide.

You can't make the carbide wider, no, but there's no reason additional
set in the tooth itself couldn't be added to a blade. Getting 0.220"
would probably be more than feasible from a typical combination 10"
blade, however, granted.

--

Not a good idea to add set to a carbide saw, the plate is not designed
for it and you will play hell with the solder joint adding bending
forces.
A good saw shop could likely make you up something that will work but
I would be inclined to just use a saw and a shim against the fence and
make two passes, one with the shim against the fence and the second
pass with it removed. Another approach would be to add some wobble to
the saw by using a modified arbor washer.

Or you could use a 7/32 endmill in a router and given a little runout
get damn close.

On Aug 23, 7:00 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

I usually just do this in two passes, with fence spacers.

For a one pass operation, I'd email Ridge, Forrest, or Systematic for a
custom blade quote.

Ridge called today. They make a stock blade called a groover that's
specifically designed for the task at hand. $89, plus shipping.
SOLD.

JP

beecrofter wrote:
On Aug 23, 12:43 pm, dpb wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote:
Nova wrote:
You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.
You can't "widen up" the set of carbide teeth. You need to start with
wider carbide.
You can't make the carbide wider, no, but there's no reason additional
set in the tooth itself couldn't be added to a blade. Getting 0.220"
would probably be more than feasible from a typical combination 10"
blade, however, granted.

--

Not a good idea to add set to a carbide saw, the plate is not designed
for it and you will play hell with the solder joint adding bending
forces.
....

The location of the set is far removed from the location of the braze.

That said, as above, I'm _not_ recommending it any more now than I was
then, only commenting it is possible...

--

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 23, 7:00 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Jay Pique wrote:
Anyone know of a supplier of saw blades in unusually wide kerfs? I'm
looking for a single blade that will cut a kef of .220", give or take
a few thou. I'm planning on using it to groove drawer parts to accept
5mm/~.200" plywood bottoms. Dado stacks only cut as small as .25",
and none of our blades is large enough. I've sort of ruled out using
a router bit. Feel free to argue otherwise though.

I usually just do this in two passes, with fence spacers.

For a one pass operation, I'd email Ridge, Forrest, or Systematic for a
custom blade quote.

Ridge called today. They make a stock blade called a groover that's
specifically designed for the task at hand. $89, plus shipping.
SOLD.

JP


They have been great to work with over the years. Never disappointed.

Jay Pique wrote:

Ridge called today. They make a stock blade called a groover that's
specifically designed for the task at hand. $89, plus shipping.
SOLD.


Thanks for the follow-up! I might have to get one myself, as nearly all
of my drawer bottoms are the same plywood.

On Aug 23, 6:44 pm, dpb wrote:
beecrofter wrote:
On Aug 23, 12:43 pm, dpb wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote:
Nova wrote:
You might be able to get by with just having the set of the teeth
widened up.
You can't "widen up" the set of carbide teeth. You need to start with
wider carbide.
You can't make the carbide wider, no, but there's no reason additional
set in the tooth itself couldn't be added to a blade. Getting 0.220"
would probably be more than feasible from a typical combination 10"
blade, however, granted.

--

Not a good idea to add set to a carbide saw, the plate is not designed
for it and you will play hell with the solder joint adding bending
forces.

...

The location of the set is far removed from the location of the braze.

That said, as above, I'm _not_ recommending it any more now than I was
then, only commenting it is possible...

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Set farther down the tooth puts stress in the gullets. leads to
cracking. I have seen a few set blades with brazed teeth but these
were of the syncab/china freight/junk variety with skinny stellite
tips. So far in 20 years of general sharpening I have yet to
encounter a carbide saw with set in the plate. Might be an industry
that uses one but I doubt it.