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wood choices- would you do this?
Hello All,
I finished my curly cherry bed a few weeks ago (and I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how) and now I started on a matching set of night stands. I have several feet of 12 inch wide cherry for the top (resawn from an 8/4 x 12 inch board) but my plans call for 18 x 18 so I was going to make a mitered border (3 inch wide) of some contrasting wood. My choices are bloodwood or walnut. The bloodwood is my preference but I was concerned that when I sand the glued up top I might get bloodwood sanddust impregnated in the cherry without any easy remedy for its removal. Also, since the densities of the two woods are so different, would I notice any post assembly deficiencies? As an aside, I was machining the bloodwood along with the cherry to maintain uniformity and the contrast of the two woods was so noticeable. I did some minor work on ipe before - mostly crosscutting, ripping, and routing - but this is the first time I did any major machining of a very dense and heavy wood. Looking forward to more bloodwood projects in the future. Marc |
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marc rosen wrote:
Hello All, I finished my curly cherry bed a few weeks ago (and I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how) and now I started on a matching set of night stands. I have several feet of 12 inch wide cherry for the top (resawn from an 8/4 x 12 inch board) but my plans call for 18 x 18 so I was going to make a mitered border (3 inch wide) of some contrasting wood. My choices are bloodwood or walnut. The bloodwood is my preference but I was concerned that when I sand the glued up top I might get bloodwood sanddust impregnated in the cherry without any easy remedy for its removal. Also, since the densities of the two woods are so different, would I notice any post assembly deficiencies? Very probably...mitered border pieces on another piece of solid wood are never a good idea. On plywood, yes..solid wood no. The alternative is "breadboard ends". Border the lengths of the top slab with solid then add ends so they overlap those borders. The ends need to be attached so that the top piece can expand/contract; a sliding dovetail works well with a single screw in the center of the end into the top. No glue. It is usual to cut a quirk (narrow groove or chamfer) on the ends of the long borders where the end borders adjoin them so that when the end borders move in/out with the top piece that movement is not noticeable. Or, just border the two long sides of the top. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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Very probably...mitered border pieces on another piece of solid wood are never a good idea. On plywood, yes..solid wood no. The alternative is "breadboard ends". Border the lengths of the top slab with solid then add ends so they overlap those borders. The ends need to be attached so that the top piece can expand/contract; a sliding dovetail works well with a single screw in the center of the end into the top. No glue. It is usual to cut a quirk (narrow groove or chamfer) on the ends of the long borders where the end borders adjoin them so that when the end borders move in/out with the top piece that movement is not noticeable. Or, just border the two long sides of the top. -- dadiOH Hey Dadi-OH, That's one idea I never thought of. The breadboard idea was tossed around but lost out to the mitered appearance, however, making the cherry 18 inches long and then adding the bloodwood border would be more appealing (and easier to construct!) In fact, I had laid out the boards that way on my workbench but was not cognizant enough to see that as a "finished" pattern. Thanks for that suggestion. But getting back to the sand dust concern; could this be a problem to contend with? Any chance of bleed once finish is applied? |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:37:32 -0700, marc rosen
wrote: Hello All, I finished my curly cherry bed a few weeks ago (and I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how) and now I started on a matching set of night stands. I have several feet of 12 inch wide cherry for the top (resawn from an 8/4 x 12 inch board) but my plans call for 18 x 18 so I was going to make a mitered border (3 inch wide) of some contrasting wood. My choices are bloodwood or walnut. The bloodwood is my preference but I was concerned that when I sand the glued up top I might get bloodwood sanddust impregnated in the cherry without any easy remedy for its removal. This hasn't been a problem for me, but the bloodwood can bleed depending on the finish. I haven't had a problem with varnishes like General Finishes Arm-R-Seal, but I did have big problems with shellac. Also, since the densities of the two woods are so different, would I notice any post assembly deficiencies? The other poster already mentioned the issues with mitering around a solid board. The main difference assembly wise would be that if you have a joint the bloodwood just isn't going to compress as much. So the same setup on the cherry might produce a working joint but not be able to get it together with the bloodwood. As an aside, I was machining the bloodwood along with the cherry to maintain uniformity and the contrast of the two woods was so noticeable. A little goes a long way. I think a 3" wide border around a 12" center would be too much. If the cherry is really nice curly stuff I'd want it to be the center of attention, and it's just not going to get noticed with that bloodwood screaming "Look at me!" all around it. I would probably just glue up 18x18 tops of the cherry if there was enough, or go with the walnut. I did some minor work on ipe before - mostly crosscutting, ripping, and routing - but this is the first time I did any major machining of a very dense and heavy wood. Looking forward to more bloodwood projects in the future. I'll say this much, it brings scroll saw blades to an early demise Also the sandpaper on my drum sander. If padauk held its color I'd never go near the bloodwood, so much easier to work with. -Leuf |
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"marc rosen" wrote in message ups.com... Hello All, I finished my curly cherry bed a few weeks ago (and I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how) and now I started on a matching set of night stands. I have several feet of 12 inch wide cherry for the top (resawn from an 8/4 x 12 inch board) but my plans call for 18 x 18 so I was going to make a mitered border (3 inch wide) of some contrasting wood. My choices are bloodwood or walnut. The bloodwood is my preference but I was concerned that when I sand the glued up top I might get bloodwood sanddust impregnated in the cherry without any easy remedy for its removal. Also, since the densities of the two woods are so different, would I notice any post assembly deficiencies? As an aside, I was machining the bloodwood along with the cherry to maintain uniformity and the contrast of the two woods was so noticeable. I did some minor work on ipe before - mostly crosscutting, ripping, and routing - but this is the first time I did any major machining of a very dense and heavy wood. Looking forward to more bloodwood projects in the future. Marc run it through a wide belt sander with good dust collection. i did a red oak/bloodwood, finished with shellac, and had no bleedthrough on either the sanding or finishing. pictures at http://groups.msn.com/chaniarts/wood...to&PhotoID=374 http://groups.msn.com/chaniarts/wood...to&PhotoID=375 regards, charlie http://glassartists.org/chaniarts |
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marc rosen wrote in news:1186667342.112899.164620
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: snip But getting back to the sand dust concern; could this be a problem to contend with? Any chance of bleed once finish is applied? Try a sample or two with a wash coat of dewaxed shellac on the cherry... Patriarch |
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