Growing up Catholic, towards the end of the All Latin Era,
the phrase "Dominus vobiscum" was familiar. Similar to
"the other latin" - spanish's "Vaya con Dios", it basically
translates to "Go with God" or "The Lord be with you".

Now any Catholic kid will tell you that it REALLY meant was
"Dominic - Go frisk 'em." - as in - time to take up ANOTHER
"collection".

Well, thanks to Festool, it's now DOMINO Go Frisk 'Em.

Now relative to the purchase price - even the Introductory
Price - the price of a metric caliper and a metric ruler are
going to be small change. Now ideally, it would be nice to
get one of those digital calipers that can be switched back
and forth between metric and inches, even better one that
will convert decimal inches to fractional inches. The latter
increases the price of course. Oh, and a metric tape measure.
I can't "see" what 598 or 610 mm look like (it's a tad over\
23 1/2" and a smidge over 24" respectively.

Now I know I can get the converting digital calipers, at least
the one that goes back and forth between mm and decimal
inches - not usre about the fractional inches. But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

BTW - those "loose tenon" Dominos - the disappear like
M&Ms. Bonsai tables - 4 inch apron, 2 Dominos per end,
4/face x 4 faces = 16 Dominos. Now add one per end
for each strecher and you use TWENTY FOUR - per table.
(Thats FORTY EIGHT MORTISES for those who like numbers).

Did I mention that this thing doesn't care if your stock
is a little cupped? Cupped or flat - the joints close -
no "futzing" and forcing (you guys who have used a router
and a mortising jig know what I mean). Probably should
provide a caveat - this is true for widths at least up to
4" and up to 1/16th inch cup over that length.

Sure is nice to be able to reference off one face (same
as router mortising jig) an EITHER edge of the part. Very
quick and almost Idiot Proof (though I've managed to
screw up a couple - of pairs - or mortises with the DOMINO.

Already am thinking about "modifying" the DOMINO stepped
Fence to Mortise Centerline thing to fractions of inches
or maybe decimal inches. Woth a 5mm drill bit and some
thought I can probably make an "add on" to get the pins
say 1" to mortise centerline. Still stuck with default
mortise width of 18, 19, 21 and 23 mm - but it would be
a start. Lot's of opportunities for some enterpreneur
to come up with aftermarket Conversion Kits for the
DOMINO. Anyone who can drop a grand for the tool will
likely be willing to pay another $99.99 for a decimal
inches Step Stops and a Slip On 45mm to 1 inch offset
Burfle. Oh - and the clear plastic metric centering
scale part - fractional inches please - in 32nds - at
least.

Anybody?

charlie b
523.6 mm - what's that in Dog Years? Cubits? How
about Furlongs (who the hell came up with that one?)?

"charlieb" wrote in message
Growing up Catholic, towards the end of the All Latin Era,
the phrase "Dominus vobiscum" was familiar. Similar to
"the other latin" - spanish's "Vaya con Dios", it basically
translates to "Go with God" or "The Lord be with you".

Now any Catholic kid will tell you that it REALLY meant was
"Dominic - Go frisk 'em." - as in - time to take up ANOTHER
"collection".

My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here
comes spirit two two o".

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Last update: 2/20/07

charlieb wrote:
But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

Grainger has 10'/3m tapes.

Lee Valley has a teeny little 2m one and a bigger 8m one.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...46&cat=1,43513
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...64&cat=1,43513


Chris

charlieb wrote:
But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?


I feel your pain Charlie. I have been consulting on a high end computer
workstation model for financial traders. They all use a lot of flat panel
arms to mount monitors all over this thing. All the LCD arms are metric. I
have no idea how to marry the two or the dimensions required. The
distributors and manufacturers were no help. These are high end LCD arms
from Germany.

I had hell of a time trying to find a metric tape. I finally found a couple
and they soon vanished. I bought a couple more and they also vanished. It
turns out that everyone else involved with the project had trouble finding
metric tapes as well. So they stole mine!

My solution came when I visited a Dollar Store near my house. They had
about 15 metric tapes for a dollar each. I bought them all. I gave them away
to whoever I was working with. Everybody appreciated it and nobody steals
my metric tapes any more!

I also keep some metric - imperial rulers (and a metric tape) near the
computer. I can then convert metric specs to imperial. That way I can see
exactly what size something is. You would think that these manufacturers
would care enough about the US market to make this information available on
how to best use their products. But they don't care. Being metric is its
own peculiar form of snobbery.

charlieb wrote:

Now I know I can get the converting digital calipers, at least
the one that goes back and forth between mm and decimal
inches - not usre about the fractional inches.**But*where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=5829

--
It's turtles, all the way down

On Apr 24, 9:43 am, "Swingman" wrote:
"charlieb" wrote in message
Growing up Catholic, towards the end of the All Latin Era,
the phrase "Dominus vobiscum" was familiar. Similar to
"the other latin" - spanish's "Vaya con Dios", it basically
translates to "Go with God" or "The Lord be with you".

Now any Catholic kid will tell you that it REALLY meant was
"Dominic - Go frisk 'em." - as in - time to take up ANOTHER
"collection".

My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here
comes spirit two two o".

Or you have to enjoy listening to St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast (or
any of its variations) by Frank Zappa.


Marc

Swingman wrote:

My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here
comes spirit two two o".

Had to think that one through. Trinity - God One, God Two, God Three
(God, Son of God, Holy Spirit)? Software, version 2.2.0? Then I
remembered "Et cum spiritu, tu tu o". Now I'm gonna have to look
THAT one up.

Wonder what became of Kerry A Elayeesun? I think she was sent
off to Switzerland after graduation - something about a Finishing
School. But I thought they were all in Finland. Now I'm confused.

Man was that girl stacked! Have to wonder how gravity has treated
them - er - her.

Never mind.

charlie b

Here's a caliper that measures in three scales.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...41&cat=1,43513

David.


"charlieb" wrote in message ...
Growing up Catholic, towards the end of the All Latin Era,
the phrase "Dominus vobiscum" was familiar. Similar to
"the other latin" - spanish's "Vaya con Dios", it basically
translates to "Go with God" or "The Lord be with you".

Now any Catholic kid will tell you that it REALLY meant was
"Dominic - Go frisk 'em." - as in - time to take up ANOTHER
"collection".

Well, thanks to Festool, it's now DOMINO Go Frisk 'Em.

Now relative to the purchase price - even the Introductory
Price - the price of a metric caliper and a metric ruler are
going to be small change. Now ideally, it would be nice to
get one of those digital calipers that can be switched back
and forth between metric and inches, even better one that
will convert decimal inches to fractional inches. The latter
increases the price of course. Oh, and a metric tape measure.
I can't "see" what 598 or 610 mm look like (it's a tad over\
23 1/2" and a smidge over 24" respectively.

Now I know I can get the converting digital calipers, at least
the one that goes back and forth between mm and decimal
inches - not usre about the fractional inches. But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

BTW - those "loose tenon" Dominos - the disappear like
M&Ms. Bonsai tables - 4 inch apron, 2 Dominos per end,
4/face x 4 faces = 16 Dominos. Now add one per end
for each strecher and you use TWENTY FOUR - per table.
(Thats FORTY EIGHT MORTISES for those who like numbers).

Did I mention that this thing doesn't care if your stock
is a little cupped? Cupped or flat - the joints close -
no "futzing" and forcing (you guys who have used a router
and a mortising jig know what I mean). Probably should
provide a caveat - this is true for widths at least up to
4" and up to 1/16th inch cup over that length.

Sure is nice to be able to reference off one face (same
as router mortising jig) an EITHER edge of the part. Very
quick and almost Idiot Proof (though I've managed to
screw up a couple - of pairs - or mortises with the DOMINO.

Already am thinking about "modifying" the DOMINO stepped
Fence to Mortise Centerline thing to fractions of inches
or maybe decimal inches. Woth a 5mm drill bit and some
thought I can probably make an "add on" to get the pins
say 1" to mortise centerline. Still stuck with default
mortise width of 18, 19, 21 and 23 mm - but it would be
a start. Lot's of opportunities for some enterpreneur
to come up with aftermarket Conversion Kits for the
DOMINO. Anyone who can drop a grand for the tool will
likely be willing to pay another $99.99 for a decimal
inches Step Stops and a Slip On 45mm to 1 inch offset
Burfle. Oh - and the clear plastic metric centering
scale part - fractional inches please - in 32nds - at
least.

Anybody?

charlie b
523.6 mm - what's that in Dog Years? Cubits? How
about Furlongs (who the hell came up with that one?)?

On Apr 24, 8:43 am, "Swingman" wrote:

My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here comes spirit two two o".

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07

Funny how that stays with a guy. I remember waiting patiently for the
"hominy" snickering away at out little joke, but knowing (thankfully)
we would get a break from the unintelligible latin recitations.

On the other hand, the conversion to English made it seem like mass
wasn't mass anymore. English just didn't carry that same weight. Now
the old Irish priest reciting the mass in a heavy brogue... that was a
real mass!

Robert

Lee Michaels wrote:

I also keep some metric - imperial rulers (and a metric tape) near the
computer. I can then convert metric specs to imperial. That way I can see
exactly what size something is. You would think that these manufacturers
would care enough about the US market to make this information available on
how to best use their products. But they don't care. Being metric is its
own peculiar form of snobbery.


..03937 is your friend

http://www.sfei.org/ecoatlas/GIS/Map...Constants.html

This gets you to decimal inches. After that, you're on your own.

I usually just allow .040 per millimeter unless there is a large span or
a need for serious accuracy.

Bill
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http://nmwoodworks.com/cube


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On Apr 24, 8:43 am, "Swingman" wrote:

My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here
comes spirit two two o".

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07

Funny how that stays with a guy. I remember waiting patiently for the
"hominy" snickering away at out little joke, but knowing (thankfully)
we would get a break from the unintelligible latin recitations.

On the other hand, the conversion to English made it seem like mass
wasn't mass anymore. English just didn't carry that same weight. Now
the old Irish priest reciting the mass in a heavy brogue... that was a
real mass!


http://www.turoks.net/Cabana/VaticanRag.htm

"Chris Friesen" wrote in message
...
charlieb wrote:
But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

Grainger has 10'/3m tapes.

Lee Valley has a teeny little 2m one and a bigger 8m one.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...46&cat=1,43513
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...64&cat=1,43513

Got two in my basement, Stanley.

Now the inches and tenths folding rule - 'nother matter.

Ecum Spirit 2-2-0

--

"Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes
balls to get old!"



"charlieb" wrote in message
...
Growing up Catholic, towards the end of the All Latin Era,
the phrase "Dominus vobiscum" was familiar. Similar to
"the other latin" - spanish's "Vaya con Dios", it basically
translates to "Go with God" or "The Lord be with you".

Now any Catholic kid will tell you that it REALLY meant was
"Dominic - Go frisk 'em." - as in - time to take up ANOTHER
"collection".

Well, thanks to Festool, it's now DOMINO Go Frisk 'Em.

Now relative to the purchase price - even the Introductory
Price - the price of a metric caliper and a metric ruler are
going to be small change. Now ideally, it would be nice to
get one of those digital calipers that can be switched back
and forth between metric and inches, even better one that
will convert decimal inches to fractional inches. The latter
increases the price of course. Oh, and a metric tape measure.
I can't "see" what 598 or 610 mm look like (it's a tad over\
23 1/2" and a smidge over 24" respectively.

Now I know I can get the converting digital calipers, at least
the one that goes back and forth between mm and decimal
inches - not usre about the fractional inches. But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?

BTW - those "loose tenon" Dominos - the disappear like
M&Ms. Bonsai tables - 4 inch apron, 2 Dominos per end,
4/face x 4 faces = 16 Dominos. Now add one per end
for each strecher and you use TWENTY FOUR - per table.
(Thats FORTY EIGHT MORTISES for those who like numbers).

Did I mention that this thing doesn't care if your stock
is a little cupped? Cupped or flat - the joints close -
no "futzing" and forcing (you guys who have used a router
and a mortising jig know what I mean). Probably should
provide a caveat - this is true for widths at least up to
4" and up to 1/16th inch cup over that length.

Sure is nice to be able to reference off one face (same
as router mortising jig) an EITHER edge of the part. Very
quick and almost Idiot Proof (though I've managed to
screw up a couple - of pairs - or mortises with the DOMINO.

Already am thinking about "modifying" the DOMINO stepped
Fence to Mortise Centerline thing to fractions of inches
or maybe decimal inches. Woth a 5mm drill bit and some
thought I can probably make an "add on" to get the pins
say 1" to mortise centerline. Still stuck with default
mortise width of 18, 19, 21 and 23 mm - but it would be
a start. Lot's of opportunities for some enterpreneur
to come up with aftermarket Conversion Kits for the
DOMINO. Anyone who can drop a grand for the tool will
likely be willing to pay another $99.99 for a decimal
inches Step Stops and a Slip On 45mm to 1 inch offset
Burfle. Oh - and the clear plastic metric centering
scale part - fractional inches please - in 32nds - at
least.

Anybody?

charlie b
523.6 mm - what's that in Dog Years? Cubits? How
about Furlongs (who the hell came up with that one?)?

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
. ..


SNIP

But they don't care. Being metric is its own peculiar form of snobbery.



SNIP

Wow! What a way of looking at the world.

Mike
Brisbane Aus
Changed from Imperial to Metric in the 60's - and no snob...

On Apr 24, 9:43 am, "Swingman" wrote:
"charlieb" wrote in message

" My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it):
"here
comes spirit two two o"."

Or you have to listen to St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast by Frank
Zappa.

Marc (who mposted a similar response earlier today but did not see it
at this late hour.)

On Apr 24, 9:43 am, "Swingman" wrote:
My favorite (but ya had to be raised Catholic to appreciate it): "here
comes spirit two two o".

Many years ago, back in Kentucky, my father and I were on the way to
Mass one Sunday morning and we picked up Dee, an old farmer, who was
walking to town. Dee's favorite activities were cockfighting and coon
hunting.

Dee allowed as how he had never been to a Catholic church and he
wondered if Father Beruotto would mind if he came to church with us.
Dad assured him that it would be OK. This was back in the Latin Mass
days.

After Mass, Dad asked Dee what he thought of it. Dee said, "Why
Junior, I didn't understand a word he said."

"Well, that was Latin," Dad responded.

"I tell you want," Dee said, "when he stood up there in them funny
clothes and held out his hands it sounded like he was singing 'My old
Dominecker rooster'll whip your's I betcha.'"

charlieb wrote:


Now I know I can get the converting digital calipers, at least
the one that goes back and forth between mm and decimal
inches - not usre about the fractional inches. But where
in the hell do you get a 3 meter pocket tape, graduated in
millimeters, in the USA?


I have a couple of Stanley Powerlock 33-203 3 meter/10 ft tapes purchased in
the US.

Larry