Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done this
before.

I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I need, at
the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only goes to 45,
and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more acute angles.
How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?

The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable power
saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a jig to do
this task on miter boxes and table saws.

Thanks
Jerry

"Jerome Ranch" wrote in message
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Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done this
before.

I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I need, at
the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only goes to 45,
and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more acute angles.
How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?

The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable power
saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a jig to do
this task on miter boxes and table saws.

Thanks
Jerry


Make a 5 degree wedge that you can put on your miter gauge (set to 45) and
make the cut.

--
Stoutman
www.garagewoodworks.com

Stoutman wrote:
| "Jerome Ranch" wrote in message
| ...
|| Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done
|| this before.
||
|| I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I
|| need, at the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only
|| goes to 45, and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more
|| acute angles. How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?
||
|| The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable
|| power saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a
|| jig to do this task on miter boxes and table saws.
||
|| Thanks
|| Jerry
|
|
| Make a 5 degree wedge that you can put on your miter gauge (set to
| 45) and make the cut.

Or you could make a 90-degree wedge (any rectangle of appropriate size
would work) and set your TS miter gauge to 40 degrees.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:16:06 -0400, "Stoutman" .@. wrote:


Make a 5 degree wedge that you can put on your miter gauge (set to 45) and
make the cut.

What he said, except make it 30 to 45 degrees and make it more useful
in the future. Write the angle on the wedge for quick
identification.

Be aware that you'll have to pre-trim the ends, as the cutoff end
won't have a place to go. You can do this quickly with a circular
saw, as the angle doesn't need to be perfect. You'll also need a
helper or adjustable height workstand to hold the work, as it will no
longer sit on the table.

In article , Jerome Ranch wrote:

I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I need, at
the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only goes to 45,
and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more acute angles.
How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?

Protractor. Pencil. Portable circular saw.

It doesn't have to be precise; you're not making a piano, after all. Use a
speed square for a guide, if you can't follow a pencil mark cleanly with the
circular saw.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Morris Dovey wrote:
Stoutman wrote:
| "Jerome Ranch" wrote in message
| ...
|| Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done
|| this before.
||
|| I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I
|| need, at the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only
|| goes to 45, and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more
|| acute angles. How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?
||
|| The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable
|| power saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a
|| jig to do this task on miter boxes and table saws.
||
|| Thanks
|| Jerry
|
|
| Make a 5 degree wedge that you can put on your miter gauge (set to
| 45) and make the cut.

Or you could make a 90-degree wedge (any rectangle of appropriate size
would work) and set your TS miter gauge to 40 degrees.

--
Morris Dovey

Set your miter gauge at 45 degrees, then turn your thermostat up another
5 degrees.

All of the other responses you've gotten are wrong ; )

the ONLY way to do this is with a tablesaw sled.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if you want to cut a 50 degree angle
on the end of a 2x4, just set your miter gauge to 40 degrees and put the
board in upside down, make the cut, flip the board back over, and -- Bob's
your uncle -- there's your 50 degree cut.

Lee

--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"

_________________________________
Lee Gordon
http://www.leegordonproductions.com

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:24:07 -0400, "Lee Gordon"
wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if you want to cut a 50 degree angle
on the end of a 2x4, just set your miter gauge to 40 degrees and put the
board in upside down, make the cut, flip the board back over, and -- Bob's
your uncle -- there's your 50 degree cut.

I think you're absolutely right!

I always remember my wedges, 'cause my blade only tilts one way. If
the blade will remain 90 degrees to the table, there's no need for the
wedge!

At least somebody around here can see the forest through the trees...
G

"Jerome Ranch" wrote in message
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Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done this
before.

I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I need, at
the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only goes to 45,
and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more acute angles.
How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?

The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable power
saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a jig to do
this task on miter boxes and table saws.

Thanks
Jerry


I've been biting my tongue. Eight responses and no one has mentioned "Mark
it with a bevel gauge and cut it with a handsaw". Several years back, I
took some hand tool classes because I couldn't make a simple cut with hand
tools. I still use my power tools for most things, but for this one I would
either cut it with my "skill saw" or with my daddy's (r.i.p.) crosscut
Disston. If the joint needed to be true, a belt sander or handplane with a
shooting board will finish it just fine. I also might use my bandsaw for
the cut.

Just couldn't resist :-)

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:27 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:


I've been biting my tongue. Eight responses and no one has mentioned "Mark
it with a bevel gauge and cut it with a handsaw".

Maybe he dosen't have a bevel gauge (including a way to set it) and
handsaw?

It sounded like a person who had a specific task, making dog thingies,
and possibly one tool available. My brother, father, and
brother-in-law, have been in exactly the same situation. They can
care less if they ever see another piece of wood, so they borrow or
rent a miter saw to complete the task.

Also, I'll bet most of us would find that it's actually a lot easier
to find a miter saw to borrow than a decent hand saw, bevel gauge, and
some sort of device to set the bevel gauge. Think about your average
"handy" neighbors, and what they actually own for tools.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:27 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:


I've been biting my tongue. Eight responses and no one has mentioned "Mark
it with a bevel gauge and cut it with a handsaw".

Maybe he dosen't have a bevel gauge (including a way to set it) and
handsaw?

It sounded like a person who had a specific task, making dog thingies,
and possibly one tool available. My brother, father, and
brother-in-law, have been in exactly the same situation. They can
care less if they ever see another piece of wood, so they borrow or
rent a miter saw to complete the task.

Also, I'll bet most of us would find that it's actually a lot easier
to find a miter saw to borrow than a decent hand saw, bevel gauge, and
some sort of device to set the bevel gauge. Think about your average
"handy" neighbors, and what they actually own for tools.

Point well taken, but you can buy them all at Lowes or HD for not much
money. As far as a device to set the bevel gage, a cheap plastic protractor
will suffice. A little highschool trig and a ruler will do also.
A speed square will provide the angle as well.

It's just more fun to fire up the power tools to do the job. I have a shop
full of power tools and they are good ones with Forrest blades. It's just
that some things are done more efficiently and quickly by hand.

"Jerome Ranch" wrote in message
...
Okay Saturday morning mental workout..I know you guys have done this
before.

I'm building some dog agility equipment..an aframe now, and I need, at
the apex, a 2x4 xcut to 50 degrees. My miter box only goes to 45,
and the taper jig on my table saw only does much more acute angles.
How do I "safely" cut the 50 angle?

The only thought I have is to do it "manually" with my portable power
saw and use a guide. I assume that someone has a designed a jig to do
this task on miter boxes and table saws.

Can you change the mating piece to make 45 fit? Haven't seen your design,
but it ought to be possible.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:40:31 GMT, "Lowell Holmes"
wrote:
It's just more fun to fire up the power tools to do the job. I have a shop
full of power tools and they are good ones with Forrest blades. It's just
that some things are done more efficiently and quickly by hand.


You've never seen my brother or father with a hand saw. G

Thanks for the great ideas to solve my problem. I do have lots of
tools..but as we all know..frequently its not the tools that make the
project, its how you plan and execute.
I was overthinking this one..looking for a "power" solution, when a
simple fix was what I was after.
This is NOT a furniture grade project..so I measured the angle with a
protractor, and hand cut with my portable saw...perfect.

Sometimes I get to thinking inside the table saw/miter saw box and see
those tools as the only fix



Thanks
Jerry