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Freud blade quality concerns
This does not seem normal to me, but then again I stopped buying Freud
products many years ago. IMHO you are getting a refurbished product or the manufacturer takes no pride in what his product looks like brand new. If they don't care what it looks like new, I would have concerns about what amount of care that went into the manufacturing process. |
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Freud blade quality concerns
Igor,
Forrest now will build a blade to your liking,, IIRC they do and or will grind a blade to suite your needs. You have to contact them directly vs. going through a distributor. You might want to take a look here http://www.stores.yahoo.com/forrestman/ and or call about your concerns or needs. |
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Freud blade quality concerns
The "dried glue" on your blade is actually an epoxy resin that Freud places
within the vibration dampening laser cut slots to prevent material from lodging within it. I suspect the "paint run" within the metal is the tension ring on the blade. Every Freud Industrial blade is run through a high pressure roller to straighten the blade blank within a couple thousands of an inch. There is a noticeable "ring" at about the 8" diameter mark on a 10" blade. The printing is the last thing to go on the blade, and thus the first to wear off. The fact that it is not worn off in a radial patter would suggest to me that it was merely worn or chaffed in shipping. I've never known Freud to offer any "recon" products, and I've sold their product for 11 years. Without seeing the blade I could only assume that the product was used, or my theories above would be applicable. Rick "Igor" wrote in message ... I am going to be cutting a lot of plastic stock so I ordered a special 10" plastics blade from Freud, LU94M010. http://www.toolmarts.com/solidsurfaceblades.html I had used the same blade in the 8" size on both my RAS and my CMS and had reasonable results -- such as minimal melting and no chipping. When I opened the 10" version when it arrived, it had a number of peculiar appearance problems that made it look possibly used, but certainly handled badly. There were random scratches on the surface across the blade (i.e., not radius and not circular), substantial parts of the "priniting" on the front of the blade were missing in various places, and there was something that looks like dried yellow glue on one side of the blade surrounding the arbor hole. (There was also on one side of the blade, what looked to be within the metal, what looks like a paint run. Do they spray some kind of poly finish on the blades that might run?) I described this to the retailer, ToolMarts, and they said that they would send a replacement blade which arrived today. The replacement also has the dried glue around the hole. And, while the first one had what I assume are grinding/polishing concentric "scratches" (ie.., normal) that make it look like a CD, the replacement has comparable scratches that are more in a spin-art paint pattern. Both blades have a small indent just below every-other carbide tooth (a polished welding point?), but the size of them on one blade is 2X the size on the other. BTW, both blades are marked "Made in Italy" -- so you China bashers can stand down. (What's that old joke about a product embodying German styling and Italian engineering?) Now, if the blade works as it should, I don't care about what it looks like. But does this seem normal? Regardless, should I be concerned? Anyone else experiencing this w/ other types of Freud blades? Thanks. |
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Freud blade quality concerns
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 16:45:55 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Igor, Forrest now will build a blade to your liking,, IIRC they do and or will grind a blade to suite your needs. You have to contact them directly vs. going through a distributor. You might want to take a look here http://www.stores.yahoo.com/forrestman/ and or call about your concerns or needs. Thanks, Leon. I'll check that out. Forrestman's prices are high compared to other sources, but his selection is much better than what else I've seen. For wood, I have ordered a WWI blade so that I can use it on both the TS and the RAS. I see that most people here praise the WWII but I also found strong reviews for the WWI. BTW, finally got the DeWalt moved in and assembled last night. Will do a bit more confirming/tweaking of the setup with a dial gauge today before cutting. |
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Freud blade quality concerns
On Sat, 9 Aug 2003 21:15:34 -0500, "tailslid1"
wrote: The "dried glue" on your blade is actually an epoxy resin that Freud places within the vibration dampening laser cut slots to prevent material from lodging within it. I suspect the "paint run" within the metal is the tension ring on the blade. Every Freud Industrial blade is run through a high pressure roller to straighten the blade blank within a couple thousands of an inch. There is a noticeable "ring" at about the 8" diameter mark on a 10" blade. The printing is the last thing to go on the blade, and thus the first to wear off. The fact that it is not worn off in a radial patter would suggest to me that it was merely worn or chaffed in shipping. I've never known Freud to offer any "recon" products, and I've sold their product for 11 years. Without seeing the blade I could only assume that the product was used, or my theories above would be applicable. Rick Thanks for the detailed comments. Some of what you wrote suggests my original post wasn't as clear as it could have been. FWIW a little more detail: The "dried glue" looks like something had been glued to the blade at the center hole -- maybe 2" square (though the glue is not in a defined shape) -- during processing and then it was popped off (or it fell off from the glue drying out and the stresses of processing) and the glue was not cleaned up. As for the "paint run": Picture the looking at the side of the blade. Then, take a small brush loaded with some thin polyurethane and dab it at the bottom edge of the hole. Let the poly run down and dry. As for the printing, it looks like the worst stereotype of "Chinese" production. With the replacement blade it looks like too much ink was used. Every try taking coated printer paper designed only for a laser printer and using it in an inkjet printer. Like that, but it was allowed to dry. |
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Freud blade quality concerns
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Igor wrote: (There was also on one side of the blade, what looked to be within the metal, what looks like a paint run. Do they spray some kind of poly finish on the blades that might run?) Yes, the Freud blades I've received all have a clear coat of some sort sprayed on - I believe it's a corrosion inhibitor to keep the metal all nice and shiney before use. It wears off fairly quickly between the arbor washers - the rest has been removed through general blade cleaning or by the cleaning the sharpening service I use performs. (Have lost most of the lettering as well.) -- Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design. http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html |
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