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I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world.
Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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"SBH" wrote in message news:KOOdnQDo4sQFiArYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@wideopenwest .com... I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you Well there are about 4 categories of guns as far as size goes. It sounds like you are looking for a finish nail gun. Something that is nice to have is a gun that does not require daily oiling. I have had a Senco finish nailer for almost 18 years and am still very happy with it. The Senco is uses no oil and is a bit pricey but will last you a very long time. |
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"SBH" wrote in message news:KOOdnQDo4sQFiArYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@wideopenwest .com... I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you For the trimming you are best off with an oilless finish nailer or stapler. This keeps teh trim from getting oil stains. I have a Bostitch angled framing gun that has put together a few houses along with a great deal of small projects and only one rebuild (when I loaned it out). I have owned it since 1989 Mike D. |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:42:42 -0500, "SBH"
wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you imho: I went to HomeDepot one day, and found a brad gun, finish nailer and compressor on sale. It came with a rebate for a stapler too, which is still in the shrink wrap. It's a porter cable, I dont' use it much, but when I want it to work, it works like a champ. Only thing I have done, is figure if I want a framing gun, but I figured I don't do enough work to justify buying it, when I can spend money on so much other stuff. So my only suggestion, figure out if you really need it, or just want to buy another toy. I can relate. tom @ www.MedJobSite.com |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:42:42 -0500, "SBH"
wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I'd probably go for an angle finish nailer. Something that shoots 15ga and up to 2 1/2" in length would probably do everything you need. All of our trim guns are Senco but for home use you might be able to go with something less expensive. I've played with both the Porter Cable and Hitachi guns but haven't used either long enough to know about durability. They both seemed to work well for the short time I had to test them. Mike O. |
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SBH wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you Well, as I've noted here recently in other posts, I'm an architect -- and, the 'field reports' I get are that Hitachi is the one they want (this for a 'framing' (big and headed) nailer). I'm fixing to get in the market myself. Could be different for finishing nailers, but I wouldn't think so. As another option (and one that I've considered) is a factory rebuilt one. They appear to be about half the new cost. Depending on how serious they take rebuilding (others may be able to offer experience here), one could get the 'high end' quality - and, with a homeowner's workload, this would be plenty good for the life of that homeowner. -- john. |
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"SBH" wrote in message news:KOOdnQDo4sQFiArYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@wideopenwest .com... I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you I have a Bostitch N62FN, and love it. Nice and light with lots of power. http://www.bostitch.com/default.asp?...Cabinet+Nailer Watch for URL wrap. |
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J.A. Michel wrote:
"SBH" wrote in message news:KOOdnQDo4sQFiArYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@wideopenwest .com... I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you I have a Bostitch N62FN, and love it. Nice and light with lots of power. http://www.bostitch.com/default.asp?...Cabinet+Nailer Watch for URL wrap. There are five of these on Ebay for less than $100.00 http://search.ebay.com/search/search...ea rch=Search |
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Tom The Great wrote:
I went to HomeDepot one day, and found a brad gun, finish nailer and compressor on sale. It came with a rebate for a stapler too, which is still in the shrink wrap. It's a porter cable, I dont' use it much, but when I want it to work, it works like a champ. I did about the same thing. I believe there may be threee different Porter Cable gun/compressor kits at Home Depot, each coming with the same compressor but differing in the number of guns included. The one I got was about $300 and came with an 18g brad nailer, 16g finish nailer, a stapler, a length of air hose, nails for each of the guns, a carrying case for all the guns, a small tube of oil and the pancake style compressor. I really like this kit and all of the guns have worked great. I've mostly used the brad and finish nailers, but have also found an occasional use for the stapler. Only thing I have done, is figure if I want a framing gun, but I figured I don't do enough work to justify buying it, when I can spend money on so much other stuff. I decided I wanted a framing nailer as well, but knew I wouldn't use one often enough to justify the cost. So I wound up getting one from Harbor Freight for about $70 along with a couple different sizes of nails. While only $70, it's worked flawlessly each of the times I've needed it. -- If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and remove ".invalid". |
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I have an occasional need for a framing nailer but not often enough to
justify the cost. What I did was get a palm nailer. Uses common nails of about any length. A bit slower than a nail gun but much more versatile. Also, it had allowed me to get into spots that would have been impossible with gun or hammer. "Michael Faurot" wrote in message ... I decided I wanted a framing nailer as well, but knew I wouldn't use one often enough to justify the cost. So I wound up getting one from Harbor Freight for about $70 along with a couple different sizes of nails. While only $70, it's worked flawlessly each of the times I've needed it. |
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All my framing guns are Bostitch. I have mistreated them all equally.
They all still work great.....may not look too good but, they still do the job. I have their pin nailer, too. shoots 1.5" to 2.5" . I use it for utility boxes, drawers, etc.. It was cheap to buy. The pins are NOT cheap. I looked in to a finish nailer, but I lke the headless (nearly) pins. I can still counter sink them with judicious adjustment of the air pressure. They hold just fine on oak crown molding, jambs, etc. Gene SBH wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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I love those things. Tecos in hurricane ties used to frustrate the H***
outa me. No more! Gene CW wrote: I have an occasional need for a framing nailer but not often enough to justify the cost. What I did was get a palm nailer. Uses common nails of about any length. A bit slower than a nail gun but much more versatile. Also, it had allowed me to get into spots that would have been impossible with gun or hammer. "Michael Faurot" wrote in message ... I decided I wanted a framing nailer as well, but knew I wouldn't use one often enough to justify the cost. So I wound up getting one from Harbor Freight for about $70 along with a couple different sizes of nails. While only $70, it's worked flawlessly each of the times I've needed it. |
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Here's the sequence of acquisition:
1. 15-guage finish nailer (always comes with angled magazine) OR 16-guage finish nailer with angled magazine. Either one will require angled nails rather than straight. (crown molding, door trim, door frames) 2. 2" brad nailer (quarter-round, baseboards, cabinets) 3. Narrow-crown stapler (cabinet backs, door frames, door trim) Look online for factory-refurbished units. Set up your air hose with a T-connection and run two hoses from there. One to the finish nailer, one to the brad nailer, so you don't have to keep swapping the hose between tools. On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:42:42 -0500, "SBH" wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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Thank you Tom, that was informative and after I posted another question for
the group. But better late than never. "Tom Kendrick" wrote in message ... Here's the sequence of acquisition: 1. 15-guage finish nailer (always comes with angled magazine) OR 16-guage finish nailer with angled magazine. Either one will require angled nails rather than straight. (crown molding, door trim, door frames) 2. 2" brad nailer (quarter-round, baseboards, cabinets) 3. Narrow-crown stapler (cabinet backs, door frames, door trim) Look online for factory-refurbished units. Set up your air hose with a T-connection and run two hoses from there. One to the finish nailer, one to the brad nailer, so you don't have to keep swapping the hose between tools. On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:42:42 -0500, "SBH" wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:23:29 -0600, "Michael Faurot"
wrote: Tom The Great wrote: I went to HomeDepot one day, and found a brad gun, finish nailer and compressor on sale. It came with a rebate for a stapler too, which is still in the shrink wrap. It's a porter cable, I dont' use it much, but when I want it to work, it works like a champ. I did about the same thing. I believe there may be threee different Porter Cable gun/compressor kits at Home Depot, each coming with the same compressor but differing in the number of guns included. The one I got was about $300 and came with an 18g brad nailer, 16g finish nailer, a stapler, a length of air hose, nails for each of the guns, a carrying case for all the guns, a small tube of oil and the pancake style compressor. Sounds like the same one I got. I really like this kit and all of the guns have worked great. I've mostly used the brad and finish nailers, but have also found an occasional use for the stapler. Only thing I have done, is figure if I want a framing gun, but I figured I don't do enough work to justify buying it, when I can spend money on so much other stuff. I decided I wanted a framing nailer as well, but knew I wouldn't use one often enough to justify the cost. So I wound up getting one from Harbor Freight for about $70 along with a couple different sizes of nails. While only $70, it's worked flawlessly each of the times I've needed it. Interesting, will get hand tools from harbor freight, but no experience with power tools. Sounds cheaper than renting. Good luck, tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com |
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CW wrote:
I have an occasional need for a framing nailer but not often enough to justify the cost. What I did was get a palm nailer. Uses common nails of about any length. A bit slower than a nail gun but much more versatile. Also, it had allowed me to get into spots that would have been impossible with gun or hammer. I've been meaning to get one of those too. They seem to be relatively inexpensive as well. I can see having one of those around also for just the reasons you mention. -- If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and remove ".invalid". |
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Tom The Great wrote:
I decided I wanted a framing nailer as well, but knew I wouldn't use one often enough to justify the cost. So I wound up getting one from Harbor Freight for about $70 along with a couple different sizes of nails. While only $70, it's worked flawlessly each of the times I've needed it. Interesting, will get hand tools from harbor freight, but no experience with power tools. Sounds cheaper than renting. Based on posts I'd seen here in the wreck from a few folks who have purchashed pneumatic nailers from Harbor Freight and had good results, I figured I'd give it a try. Given the price, and the occasional use (hobbyist) it gets--it seems to work great. If I needed a framing nailer as part of my job, I'd be looking at something like Senco, Hitachi, etc. -- If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and remove ".invalid". |
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You'll like it. My Senco cost me about $80.00. more than justified the cost
on the first deck. Great for joist hangers (I suck with a hammer). "Michael Faurot" wrote in message ... CW wrote: I have an occasional need for a framing nailer but not often enough to justify the cost. What I did was get a palm nailer. Uses common nails of about any length. A bit slower than a nail gun but much more versatile. Also, it had allowed me to get into spots that would have been impossible with gun or hammer. I've been meaning to get one of those too. They seem to be relatively inexpensive as well. I can see having one of those around also for just the reasons you mention. -- If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to numbers and remove ".invalid". |
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"DZIN" wrote in message ups.com... All my framing guns are Bostitch. I have mistreated them all equally. They all still work great.....may not look too good but, they still do the job. I have their pin nailer, too. shoots 1.5" to 2.5" . I use it for utility boxes, drawers, etc.. It was cheap to buy. The pins are NOT cheap. I looked in to a finish nailer, but I lke the headless (nearly) pins. I can still counter sink them with judicious adjustment of the air pressure. They hold just fine on oak crown molding, jambs, etc. Gene That sound more like a "brad nailer". Bostich shows "true headless" pinners with lengths only up to 1-3/16" long. Brad nailers shoot brads that are much longer that have tiny heads. |
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You must have old fashioned pawn shops in your area. Around here, most
everything they sell is priced so close to retail that it is not worth it. "Trusshauler" wrote in message ... CW Wrote: You'll like it. My Senco cost me about $80.00. more than justified the cost on the first deck. Great for joist hangers (I suck with a hammer). Do your research then check out your local pawn shop. They sometimes have good deals on used equipment that has not been abused. I picked up a Senco framing gun ( older model SN8) and have been happy with it. I have seen many good "lightly used" tools, air compressors, air tools ,etc. for sometimes half of cost. -- Trusshauler |
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About half the pawn shops or more are not places for good deals where I
live. Some never have good tools to look at but I pop in once in a while just to see. I have found good deals on occasion even at the overpriced shops. I have bought a JGA spray gun, Paslode framing gun, Bosch hammer drill and router, cheap Dewalt sawzall, brad nailer, Mac fuel injection pressure tester and other stuff. Everything worked well even though some of the tools were pretty beat up. I do not believe I got everything at half price or less but probably most was. Maybe I am lucky living I a big population which of course means pawn shops, nail shops and drug problems. CW wrote: You must have old fashioned pawn shops in your area. Around here, most everything they sell is priced so close to retail that it is not worth it. "Trusshauler" wrote in message ... CW Wrote: You'll like it. My Senco cost me about $80.00. more than justified the cost on the first deck. Great for joist hangers (I suck with a hammer). Do your research then check out your local pawn shop. They sometimes have good deals on used equipment that has not been abused. I picked up a Senco framing gun ( older model SN8) and have been happy with it. I have seen many good "lightly used" tools, air compressors, air tools ,etc. for sometimes half of cost. -- Trusshauler |
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I have accumulated about ten Sencos (staplers and brad nailers) over
many years. Senco was an originator of this genre of tools. Many of the Johnny Come Lately brands seem to have joined the party when Senco's patents expired. Senco does have an active repair and parts service business. If this is important to you, you will be able to keep your tools operating for years to come. I have absolutely no connection to the brand. Joe G SBH wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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I have accumulated about ten Sencos (staplers and brad nailers) over
many years. Senco was an originator of this genre of tools. Many of the Johnny Come Lately brands seem to have joined the party when Senco's patents expired. Senco does have an active repair and parts service business. If this is important to you, you will be able to keep your tools operating for years to come. I have absolutely no connection to the brand. Joe G SBH wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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SBH wrote: I'm in the market for a nail gun but am uneducated to the nail gun world. Therefore, will someone educate me on what to look for in an all around general purpose nail gun? I do trimming (baseboards, door trim, etc) as well as minor constructive type building (door frames, cabinets, etc) , if that helps. Not as employment but for my own home and woodworking hobbies. Thank you |
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message What do nail shops have to do with drugs and pawn shops? G Perhaps they don't want to get "nailed" by the cops. |
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On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:26:30 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: "DZIN" wrote in message oups.com... All my framing guns are Bostitch. I have mistreated them all equally. They all still work great.....may not look too good but, they still do the job. I have their pin nailer, too. shoots 1.5" to 2.5" . I use it for utility boxes, drawers, etc.. It was cheap to buy. The pins are NOT cheap. I looked in to a finish nailer, but I lke the headless (nearly) pins. I can still counter sink them with judicious adjustment of the air pressure. They hold just fine on oak crown molding, jambs, etc. Gene That sound more like a "brad nailer". Bostich shows "true headless" pinners with lengths only up to 1-3/16" long. Brad nailers shoot brads that are much longer that have tiny heads. Nail guns are dangerous tools. I would not own one of them. They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Buy a decent hammer, and buy some (much cheaper) nails. |
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This has got to be a troll.
wrote in message ... Nail guns are dangerous tools. I would not own one of them. They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Buy a decent hammer, and buy some (much cheaper) nails. |
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wrote in message ... Nail guns are dangerous tools. I would not own one of them. They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Buy a decent hammer, and buy some (much cheaper) nails. P L E A S E, If you feel that way, stay out of the garage. |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:06:12 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Nail guns are dangerous tools. I would not own one of them. They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Buy a decent hammer, and buy some (much cheaper) nails. P L E A S E, If you feel that way, stay out of the garage. I have used a hammer for the past almost 60 years and aside from hitting my thumb a few times, I have never been injured. I could not count the number of incidences I have heard about people getting severely injured with nail guns. Nail guns are dangerous tools, and they are costly to use because of the high cost of the nails and the amount of energy needed to operate them. If you are too weak to operate a hammer, or just too damn lazy to use your muscles, I suggest that YOU stay out of the garage. Nailguns may save a few minutes of time, but the cost to operate them exceeds the extra cost of labor to do it with a plain hammer. This does not even take into account the medical bills, pain, and loss of work time encountered when you shoot yourself or another employee with one of those goddamn guns. It's not "if" you'll get shot with one of them, it's "WHEN". Besides this, hand hammered nails hold much better than nailgun nails, which is why guys that use nailguns almost always put twice the amount of nails that they would use by hand. Nail guns should have never been invented, and those that use them should be required by law to be certified and licensed prior to using them, because it's often someone else that that gets shot by them. |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:38:51 GMT, "CW" wrote:
This has got to be a troll. Those who use the word "troll" are the REAL trolls. Your post is off topic and a waste of bandwidth. * PLONK * |
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" They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to
sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Phooey, do you have an automobile? Walt Conner |
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message Nail guns are dangerous tools I saw "Happy Gilmore"! I was thinking of one of the Lethal Weapon movies. |
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You make some valid statements---true the nails are more
expensive-----true they can be dangerous in a child's or morons hand and accidents happen to us all at times but I think saws and driving a car are more dangerous. If you want to forgo progress and live in the buggy era that is you privilege. But you have made a valid point as to the cost and danger of the tools. wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:06:12 GMT, "Leon" wrote: wrote in message . .. Nail guns are dangerous tools. I would not own one of them. They truely are GUNS and they can kill. The best use for a nail gun is to sell it to a recycler to turn back into raw steel to make hammers. Buy a decent hammer, and buy some (much cheaper) nails. P L E A S E, If you feel that way, stay out of the garage. I have used a hammer for the past almost 60 years and aside from hitting my thumb a few times, I have never been injured. I could not count the number of incidences I have heard about people getting severely injured with nail guns. Nail guns are dangerous tools, and they are costly to use because of the high cost of the nails and the amount of energy needed to operate them. If you are too weak to operate a hammer, or just too damn lazy to use your muscles, I suggest that YOU stay out of the garage. Nailguns may save a few minutes of time, but the cost to operate them exceeds the extra cost of labor to do it with a plain hammer. This does not even take into account the medical bills, pain, and loss of work time encountered when you shoot yourself or another employee with one of those goddamn guns. It's not "if" you'll get shot with one of them, it's "WHEN". Besides this, hand hammered nails hold much better than nailgun nails, which is why guys that use nailguns almost always put twice the amount of nails that they would use by hand. Nail guns should have never been invented, and those that use them should be required by law to be certified and licensed prior to using them, because it's often someone else that that gets shot by them. |
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