Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution. We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C

L C wrote:
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution. We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C

you could do that with few problems with the old formica materials. Use
a good contact adhesive. Thuis assumes the original surface is secure.

It may help to run a sander over the original surface to scuff it up
slightly.

L C wrote:
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution. We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?

Yup

Did it work?

Yup, but do not use waterbased contact cement...and scuff with 80 grit
in a beltsander.
Make sure the contact is dry but still a little bit tacky... you should
be able to swipe your hand across the dried adhesive without sticking
to it...but it should still leave a fingerprint.
The volatiles in the contact adhesive will have no place to go when
trapped between two layers of phenolic(laminate)... so dry is good.
Roll with all your might afterwards to ensure a good bond.
What are your plans for the backsplash and front edge? (Tight curves
like that will not be possible without a whole lot of localized heat
and special post-form equipment.)

r

"L C" wrote in message news:_7WQg.7$Iq5.6@trndny02...
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?


Never tried it but I don't see a reason it would not work. Mark's comment
about scuffing the surface sounds like a good plan.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?

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"L C" wrote in message
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Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do
that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?


Never tried it but I don't see a reason it would not work. Mark's comment
about scuffing the surface sounds like a good plan.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?



Guys,

Thanks for the quick replies. Currently the backsplash is a crappy piece of
pine that the original owner had. I do a decent amount of woodworking so I
will try and make a backsplash. My front edge will either be a beveled edge
exposing about a qtr inch of hardwood or a solid wood edge. Whichever I can
figure out how to do while the counter top is in place.

Any thoughts on the edge would be greatly appreciated

Thanks Again

Larry C

Robatoy wrote:
The volatiles in the contact adhesive will have no place to go when
trapped between two layers of phenolic(laminate)... so dry is good.
Roll with all your might afterwards to ensure a good bond.

This makes me wonder if it would be good to rout some little grooves in
the old surface for relief.

L C wrote:
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.

I have given your idea some more thought.
To buy what you need, glue, rollers,laminate, some trimming bits, a
file or two..a proper roller etc... not to mention your time.
What does a 'by-the-foot' off the shelf postformed top cost? Bet it's
cheaper...(unless you have a whole bunch of mitres and peninsula-double
finished edges...)
But.. I don't know your lay-out.

r

"L C" wrote in message news:_7WQg.7$Iq5.6@trndny02...
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C

As others have said, yes you can apply over old laminate. We did it on
our kitchen, lasted 5 years with no problems, till we did a full redo .
The old layer must be well bonded, and abrade it with 60-80 grit belt
sander. I would recommend against cutting grooves in the old layer, they
may telegraph thru.

"L C" wrote in message news:_7WQg.7$Iq5.6@trndny02...
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C



You might try ceramic tiles, you can get foot-square tiles for about a buck
each at the borg.

"L C" wrote in message news:_7WQg.7$Iq5.6@trndny02...
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C

Gluing laminate to laminate is done all of the time. Sand the old and glue
on the new. There are special laminates that have color all the way through
them that are used to make attractive edges. Strips of different colors of
the solid color laminate are glued on top of each other at the edges and the
body of the counter is layed up with cheaper laminates on top of each other,
sometimes four layers thick. Then the edge is beveled so that the different
colors all show, one on top of each other beveled back. Not that this is
what you want to do, but this is done on new applications for custom work.

For your edge question:
Glue and nail your wood edge on and sand flush to the top before you apply
the laminate. Run the laminate over the top of the wood edge and then bevel
it. This gets rid of the joint line and keeps water and debris out of the
crack.

CR

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"L C" wrote in message
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Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do
that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?


Never tried it but I don't see a reason it would not work. Mark's
comment
about scuffing the surface sounds like a good plan.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?



Guys,

Thanks for the quick replies. Currently the backsplash is a crappy piece
of
pine that the original owner had. I do a decent amount of woodworking so
I
will try and make a backsplash. My front edge will either be a beveled
edge
exposing about a qtr inch of hardwood or a solid wood edge. Whichever I
can
figure out how to do while the counter top is in place.

Any thoughts on the edge would be greatly appreciated

Thanks Again

Larry C

I'm a cabinet maker by trade ... Laminating over other lam is OK if it is
well adhered , just scuff and let the contact cement dry completely . Use
scraps and/or small dowells to keep the new laminate from sticking until you
get it positioned . I like a hardwood edge , applied before laminating and
then routed with a profile bit . If you prefer square inside corners you can
apply the profiled edge after laminating .
--

Snag aka OSG #1
'76 FLH "Bag Lady"
BS132 SENS NEWT
"A hand shift is a manly shift ."
shamelessly stolen
none to one to reply

Not surprisingly, the guy at the BORG is probably looking to sell you a new
counter top vs. a sheet of laminate.

You should not have any problems providing the old top is still securely
attached, and, you rough up the old top in order to get good adhesion with
the contact cement. This is a good short term solution.
"L C" wrote in message news:_7WQg.7$Iq5.6@trndny02...
Hello,

I have an old laminate countertop in our kitchen. I would like to just
laminate on top of the existing countertop as a "couple year" solution.
We
plan to redo the entire kitchen in that time. I thought I could do that,
but the guy at the BORG told me that it would never work. The new
laminate
would not stick to the old laminate.

Anyone ever do this?
Did it work?

Larry C

CR wrote:
[snip]There are special laminates that have color all the way through
them that are used to make attractive edges. Strips of different colors of
the solid color laminate are glued on top of each other at the edges and the
body of the counter is layed up with cheaper laminates on top of each other,
sometimes four layers thick. Then the edge is beveled so that the different
colors all show, one on top of each other beveled back.

Solidcore laminates have been discontinued by most (if not all) of the
major distributors here in Canada at least and none of my US sources
list it anymore... The stuff used to be huge money... and I mean huge.
The OP was after something cheap and temporary. Solicore ain't it.

This stuff, has pretty much replaced 'the black line' problem:
http://www.countertop.com/theproduct...decoedges.aspx

....also not cheap.

r